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Tonight, the first-place Mets welcome the second-place Phillies for a three-game series in Shea Stadium, roughly two weeks since the Phillies completed a painful sweep of the Mets in Philadelphia.
Phillies 3B Wes Helms, on the up-coming series, as quoted by the Philadelphia Inquirer…
“It’s a big series. Even though the Mets have a big lead, they’re going to be gunning for us.”
On the Thursday afternoon of the sweep’s final game, the second-place Phillies celebrated quite loudly on the field, near the Mets dugout, with still 30 games left to play.
Billy Wagner, on the Phillies post-sweep celebration, and the up-coming series, as quoted by the Bergen Record…
“That’s why when you win, you win with class. You win because you expect to win. You don’t sweep and make a big deal about it. Now they are a bigger target for us. They embarrassed us…
“When they come in there’ll be a heightened awareness that, ‘Hey, they’re here and they think they can whip our butts.’ I honestly think you don’t want to wake a sleeping dog…
“It’ll be great to go out there and pound on them, just like they want to pound on us. When I played there, the Braves could come to town and it’s all right. But the Mets come to town, and it’s, ‘All the press, the lights.’ They wanted to be like the Mets. There is something to the Mets and Phillies.”
Popper also quotes Paul Lo Duca on the same subject, as well as David Wright, who disagrees with Wagner.
…i have never bought in to the Mets-Phillies rivalry, mostly because this is really the first season ever in which both teams competed for the same playoff spot deep in to September…now, though, it’s becoming a rivalry…and i like it…i’d rather them be our biggest rival than the Braves, because a) philly is closer, and b) Phillies fans are far more passionate than Braves fans, and Phillies fans are crazy, at least before and after football season…
By the way, since the sweep, the Mets are 10–2, and have increased their lead in the NL East from two games to seven.
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Lets sweep so we can tie the season series with them also
There is nothing Wagner likes more then sticking it to the Phils everytime they come to town.
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I hope this isn’t sacrilegious, but I don’t hate the Phillies. I hate Atlanta, but not Philadelphia. Not sure why that is.
Could be because I like listening to Phillie games. I like the Phillies’ announcers, which isn’t true with the Braves’ radio team.
Don’t get me wrong, I still want to bury them this weekend.
yeah i hate them both but my braves hatred far suprasses my phillies hatred. its not even close.
The phillies are historically too pathetic to waste the emotion of hate on them.
I know they have great players on their teams, but it just seems they fall just short of the postseason every year for the past few years. How can you hate a team whose legacy is choking?
in the case of my hatred for both organizations, its a bit different. i hate the braves players. the fans are pathetic. i like the phillies players and cannot stand their fans, much like the same way i feel about the yankees.
The Phillies are exactly what we were to the Braves. We come close, but can never really finish them off…More of a pest than competition
Right on. I imagine I feel the same about the phillies as the Braves once felt about the Mets…pesky, but not really worrisome.
but I hate, hate, hate the Braves.
I got to tell you, in my mind, although I still hate the Braves…passionately, my biggest hatred falls on the Phils now. They are the “next best” team out there in the division and likely the league and from this Mets’ fan point of view, I am going to be up for this weekend! Between Roland, Rolen, Burrell, Utlely and Howard I am looking for the “boys of Flushing” to put the peddle to the metal and bury up some “cheesesteaks” over the next 3 days! I will be there on Saturday and if I had my way….up one game to none with Pedro chopping at the bit!
yeah the braves represent a greater evil than the Phillies, but this group of phillies has really tried hard to earn some deep seated hatred. Maybe the reason it’s hard to hate them is their fans mentality that they’re bound to fall off and fail at some point. My wife’s family is from Philly and have all long ago given up on baseball in favor of the Eagles after being disappointed so many times … every time the Phillies this year have gotten close to the mets, they’re like “ahhh, don’t worry they’ll blow it”. The braves on the other hand have had so many late season runs that it’s ingrained in us to hate and fear them a little. Guys like chipper, francouer, and hudson really make it easy to pile the hate on there.
I hope the Mets give the Phillies the Mrs. Brett Meyers treatment this weekend.
dude, that’s in pretty bad taste.
Really?
Does the actual act bother you or just the joke?
Yeah, really.
bothers me too..
love it
i think the joke was in good taste, no ones condoning spousal abuse just pointing out how much of a dbag myers is.
Can someone also give Pat Burrell a high hard one right below his chin?
I was down in Philly in June for the Saturday day game and Philly fans are garbage. I would love nothing more to kill their post season hopes so then they can focus on the Eagles just to get their hopes shattered again.
LETS GO METS!!
I used to hate the Braves way more than the Phillies, in fact I never really cared about the Phillies. But I went to college a half hour outside Philadelphia, and those 4 years really made me despise everything Philly. I still say in a purely baseball sense, I hate the Braves more, but I HATE Philly fans, and love when the Mets beat the Phillies. It doesn’t help that about 50% of my college friends are Phillies fans and rub it in every time the Phils beat the Mets…..of course, every morning since the sweep I send a few of the a link to the MLB Standings page, just to remind them who’s in first.
I do find it funny that every year lately, the Phillies are in contention until right around the time the NFL season starts. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the second the iggles pull on their helmets, the entire Philly fan base abandons ship on baseball and starts following football instead.
It’s funny…I live in Sough Jersey minutes from Cit Bank Crackerjack Park, and I don’t hear from Phillie fans all year, and after that sweep, they all call me! They don’t admit they follow the team, but right after that, I told them the Mets would still win it and Phils would find a way to lose.
If not for GM Gillick not bringing in any BP arms, they would have been able to keep Myers as a starter and that would have made them much more of a threat.
That being said, this team only wins games when the presure is off. Once they get close, they tighten up. Same story for last 3-4 years.
Now let’s BURY these guys!!!!!!
chris mulrain?
Phillies actually don’t hit my radar screen too often. Other than being swept by them and the opening comments to the season from Rollins saying they were the team to beat….I don’t think of them.
The braves are in my psyche becasue they have tortured us for 14 years prior to last year. I see them in my sleep.
Phillies…not so much.
I think part of it is that we have always handled the phils and not the braves. Phills have been bad and even when our team was bad, we were always competitive or won the season series with them. Again,,braves, we always seemed to fall a bit short and lost every important series every time for 14 torturous years
it seems like we’re bigger rivals to them, than they are to us.
I would really enjoy it if Wagner brushed back/hit Burrell in the 9th instead of Burrell owning him.
Any time after the 7th inning I advocate walking Burrell. Let someone else on the team beat you. Rowand? Dobbs? Werth?
With Burrell’s history with the Mets, I would rather to pitch to Howard in a tight spot.
I still fear Utley more on that team than anyone else.
Reminds me of the Eagle-Cowboys rivalry. Philly HATES the Cowboys, but the Cowboy fans are “ho-hum” about it.
Agreed though, we usually handle them and the Philthies haven’t won a divisional title (or even made the postseason) in 14 years.
who doesnt hate the cowboys?
i’d say the eagles are my least favorite NFC East team but i despise all of them pretty bad. i cant get nearly as worked up for everyone else.
I’d be happy with a magic number of 7 by Sunday afternnon
I’d be happy with a magic number of 5 by Sunday night!
billy, which team doesn’t “celebrate” after a walk-off win against the first place team their trying to catch? if you didn’t want to see them celebrate…get utley out next time ;)
to be a mets rival, you have to have more than one good pitcher.
I hate them too but after the mets clinch (and the sooner the better), I’m actually gonna root for the Phils to win the wildcard. That way the Mets will face the cubbies or brewers in first round, which should be a walkover. Meanwhile, Phils & Dbacks can beat each other up.
I hope to hell we bury the Phils this weekend. I don’t hate the team so much as the awful bloody fans. These are the jerks who booed Mike Schmidt. Also, I am tired of Jimmy Rollins who belongs nowhere so much as the NBA for all of his chest thumping gassiness. Ugh!
Let’s Go Mets!
I went to school in baltimore, and had to deal with people from “outside philly” which is apparently a 100 mile radius of the city. I hated their fans bc theyre actually all very unintelligent and unable to make unbiased comments about anyone not on their team. They also love to get drunk and sing the eagles “fight song”. So while I probably hate the braves as a team more I hate philly fans ALOT more.
First off to AmandaDad who can’t wait for the Phillies to come in with such players as Roland and Rolen, I’m pretty sure you will be disappointed to know that “Rolen” hasn’t been with the Phils in years and as far as Roland goes, I’m not sure who he is but I don’t think the team was counting on him too much this weekend. I really hope Dave Right, Peter Martinez and Karl Beltran don’t play well this weekend. And as far as the Phillies celebrating the sweep, what are they supposed to do after that crazy game? Walk out of the dugout and shake hands? Come on! The Mets have very short memories in this instance. Carlos Beltran’s 14 inning walk off last year rings a bell? Last I checked the Mets didn’t just walk into the clubhouse afterwards. Lastly, the Mets are better than the Phils right now. However, the Phils, with a very young core of star players have this rivalry going in a great direction for the coming years. All Mets fans have to agree they get excited to play the Phils just like we do; they are always fun entertaining games.
BOOO!
lol nice shot across the bow!! You’d better phear Peter Martinez!!!
You’re right.. the whole phillies series this year has been engaging, exciting, competitive baseball and both teams have come with tons of energy. I expect this weekend to be no different. I can’t wait to see Mustache Night tonight!! :)
The way our team celebrates, I would never call out another team for any type of celebration (though the cardinals jose chant last year still gives me nightmares) .. I do say, I am glad it makes our team fired up though ;)
Not much I can say except to the Victor go the Spoils. You win the game, you can pretty much do what you want.
It’s just funny that the sweep was such a turning point in the season of both teams…the Mets came alive afterward, while the Phillies realized that they had just experienced their high point, and came crashing back to earth.
how could you not hate, hamels, myers, rollins, burrell, AND they have like 5 of those old fat releivers in mesa, alfonsecA, and gordon! i don’t hate the braves as much as the phillies now because they respect us to some degree. but is it jsut me or is jeff francoeur turning into ur most hated bravE? MY TOP MOST HATED GOES YANKEES, PHILLIES/BRAVES TIE, AND CARDINALS(ASS PUJOLS)
David Wright is right. The Mets have no business criticizing any team for celebrating.
LoDuca tosses his bat on a solo HRin the 6th inning.
Delgado’s exaggerated fist pump after ground outs.
The dance each time Reyes score a run.
The Mets did all the above during the series at Shea against the Phillies when they LOST EVERY GAME.
The Phillies celebrated when they scored 3 runs off the All Star closer to sweep a 4 game series against the team in front of them.
Can’t argue with you.
the only one I have an issue with is Lo Duca’s bat flip. That was not just a solo HR. It was a back to back to back, off a hot shot young guy, by a veteran .. he gets a bat flip there. The way Howard poses for 30 seconds to watch every one of his shots makes that one a wash.
Don’t see why a veteran guy gets to celebrate if the premise stated by Wagner and seconded by Metsblog is correct, “You win with class.”
You’re fine with LoDuca’s bat flip, then you should be fine with the Phillies doing what every team does when they get a ‘walkoff ‘ win.
I’ll be fine with the Metsies kickin some Phiiie azz this wknd.
I look forward to seeing more dancing this weekend.
I’m absolutely fine with any team doing anything after a walkoff, and never indicated I don’t. I also like that it pisses my team off, and hopefully that will inspire them to lash out at your team next time they meet (see the results of the last sweep ya’ll had this year!!)
**never indicated that I’m not…..
I think Wright’s position is perfect. The Phillies had every right to celebrate the way they did after that sweep and you know the Mets would have done the same thing had the positions in the standings been reversed. This is why Wright is cut out to be the captain and should one day be chosen for that honor. He doesn’t always say interesting things, but he’s always generous, gracious, tactful and pretty much wright on.
You often hear announcers talking about players you hate when they’re on another team but love on your team (Dykstra, Rose, Wagner, LoDuca, Clemens, etc).
Reading Wright’s quotes puts him in the other category-guys you like no matter what team they’re on. Biggio, Gwynn, Ripken, guys like that.