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The Mets (83–65) lost to the Phillies (80–69) by the score of 10 to 6 in Shea Stadium today.
For a recap and boxscore, go to Yahoo! Sports.
…as much as it hurts to do so, i’ll say this, the Phillies play hard, they hustle, they’re sound, smart and resilient, among other things, at least when playing the Mets…as willie would say, ‘they make their own breaks’…ok…now, enough of that…
…it would take me all day to revisit how sloppy the Mets played in this game…i just don’t get it…the short of it is, they made six innings errors for the boxscore, all of which were costly, but also made a variety of mental errors, like walking pitchers to load bases, walking in runs, rushing throws, missing cut-off men, etc…
…for instance, down three, the Mets tie up the game on a huge, deep-breath, clutch home run by Carlos Beltran…repeat…clutch home run by beltran…however, in the next inning, without skipping a beat, Guillermo Mota walks the lead-off batter, Luis Castillo bobbles the next grounder, makes a bad throw to wreck a bases-clearing double play, mota walks another batter, Jorge Sosa entered and allowed a grand-slam…bam…Mets tie it, blink, game over…
…by the way, in standard fashion, i am already getting e-mails from people screaming about randolph using mota…usually, Scott Schoeneweis gets the grilling, but he did good today, so i guess willie was smart to use him today, but dumb when choosing the others, i guess…i don’t know…i see a few e-mails complaining that, instead, Willie Collazo or Jorge Sosa should have been on the mound…well, today, sosa allowed a game-changing grand slam, and collazo walked two of three batters he faced…i also see e-mails demanding Aaron Heilman pitch instead of mota…yet, a month ago i got e-mails ripping heilman…the only constant is the ripping of willie…it’s so crazy…so, as my point is always, this is not the Nasty Boys and the Reds you’re dealing with, you know what i mean…more or less every team is frustrated with their bullpen…jeez, the Red Sox had the best bullpen in baseball for a month, and now it’s nearly the worst…your options in the Mets bullpen are basically the same out there, just a different day…i don’t understand how some fans have yet to realize this…seriously, i truly believe that there is as good of a chance that heilman allowed today’s grand-slam, or mota, or sosa, or whomever…what’s the difference…the bullpen is not that good, in general…just like with most teams…so, in not good situations, you’re gonna get not good results…why is this such a shock to people when it happens…oh well…
…on a positive note, speaking of schoeneweis, he has allowed a run to score in just three of his last 16 appearances…
…also, Joe Smith returned to action, and hit his first batter…on a day like this, i would expect nothing else…
…hey, give a game ball to the few thousand fans who stuck around to chant “Lets Go Mets,” down four, in the bottom of the ninth…i’m with you, friends…
…at any rate, back to what keeps me muttering under my breath as i shuffle around my living room…what is up with the Mets vs. Phillies of late…brutal…i hope the Mets are embarrassed…it’s like nothing i have ever seen before…i’m starting to think Jimmy Rollins believes in voodoo…it’s the only illogical explanation…i mean, for pete’s sake, Greg Dobbs hit the grand slam…no offense, mr. dobbs, but you are greg dobbs…you’ve got to be kidding me…
…whatever, though…so, ok, great, the Phillies can smack the Mets around, and make them look silly…good…whatever…the Mets are still four losses up on them, with just 14 games left to play…the Mets must move on…laugh it off, i guess…or use it as motivation…because, it is what it is…yes, it sucks…but it isn’t the end of the world, unless of course the Phillies get to the post-season, which is my biggest fear right now…so, shake it off, guys, ‘turn the page,’ like you do so well and get back to winning against teams that do not eat Cheesesteaks and move on…me included…
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We all are confident the Mets will make it to the postseason despite yet another ugly showing vs. the Phillies but you cannot help but question this team’s heart, from the pitching staff all the way down to the bench players and especially the manager. I watch nearly every game and it has been missing for quite some time. There is absolutely no excuse for how they played yesterday and especially today, no matter how you slice it. Last year’s team would have never allowed itself to be swept knowing they were swept in the previous series badly. It just comes down to heart and desire and as much as I want to see a championship, I just do not see the fire and it’s going to cost them dearly.
Hard to imagine that Mota won’t be on the post-season roster because Willie is a very stubborn manager who is set in his ways. I am as big a Mets fan as anyone blogging on this site but I am also a realist. There are so many problems that are being exposed with this team. A weak, lack-of-heart bullpen and piss poor managerial style is going to cost us.
Does Willie R ever get upset? He’s the second coming of Art Howe!!!
Why won’t Willie get out of his dugout and defend his players- yellat the ump- show emotion instead of coming out to hold back your players from striking the ump.
Also, I’m afraid the Ho Jo batting coach experiment has failed. Too many of the Mets now bat like he used to – swing at bad pitches, strike out too often, andnot know the strike zonne.
This year’s Met’s team is very difficult to watch, to root for, and to get closr to.
It starts at the top- The team team plays the way their leader leads.
wow that’s gotta be the first “fire hojo” I’ve seen!
Here’s an idea … maybe they should change what color jersey they wear tomorrow … because it has something to do with them winning and losing games.
Obviously … I’m being sarcastic.
They should wear pink jerseys when they play the Phillies.
can’t wait for willies GREAT POST GAME COMMENTS “YA KNOW MOTAS MY GUY’
all i can say is, we know, as do phillies fans, that the phillies will lose 2 of 3 in the next series
Great job, Matt. You’re absolutely correct, they just have to turn the page. They’re still in first place (I know, that’s getting old). They just have to forget this and beat up on the Nats and Fish. It won’t be easy, though. These teams have an opportunity to play spoiler.
I’ve been a fan for many years. I’ve suffered through the bad teams of the late ’70’s/early 80’s, and again in the ’90’s. I’ve also enjoyed the great years. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like this, though. How do you lose 8 in a row to one team, and look just horrible in doing so. Today was a total microcosm, with the 6 errors, 11 walks, bullpen meltdown, etc. What can you say?! It’s baseball, I guess…
First place is theirs to lose at this point. Just win against the bad teams remaining on the schedule, and hope that the Phillies revert back to their post-Mets stupor.
LET’S GO METS!
GOOD YEARS? Dont you mean year as in 1986? Other that that we have not seen any good years. We stunk up the field in the early 90’s and had 2 lucky years in 1999 and 2000 and as always we failed. I am waiting for the curtain to drop on us again has been 21 years since we last won and I can remember that year. I am 42 and I was getting married and starting a family, so, baseball was not front and foremost in my life. I didnt follwow the team like I do now. As such The closet thing to a good year I can remember is 2006. I have no doubt we will make the post season, but, if the Philies get the WC we wont be get past them. And even if we do make the WS do you really think we will win it all? They will break our hearts like the Red Sox. They will loose in dramatic fashion right down to the wire like we did in 2006. I hope Im wrong, but, I dont think so. This team just is not sharp enough or hungey enough to get hot and stay hot long enough to get it done. We will have some great games to enjoy in October, that for sure, but, when the smoke clears will we be the team left standing?
Matt come on you need to open your eyes and see that there is no killer instinct in this team. They should have been pumped up to win at home in front of sold out crowds and having a great home stand. Once again Matt it stems from your boy Willie. WILLIE IS HORRIBLE. I bet the majority of these players hate playing for him. He lacks the drive for success. So once again I am going to state how I feel and who I am going to root for. Matt this team is NOT that good and I bet if they do for some strange reason make it to the playoffs, they will not make it pass the first round. The Phils have the drive and determination to WIN. Matt let me teach you something; TEAM stands for TOGETHER EVERYONE ACHIEVES MORE: They do not play as a team and players are not trying to achieve more. METS stands for MY ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS. Once again it stems from the lack of teamwork and the manager involvement to create a WINNING ATMOSPHERE.
I am totally soured and annoyed with this teams lack of intensity to win and to show the NL, they are the team to beat. As I have mentioned in earlier blogs this stems from Willie. He is awful and probably one of the worse motivators in sports. In sports, a head coach or manager have to know how to motivate and drive their team to a championship. He fails to protect his players with calls from the UMPS. He wants to create the same corporate image that Skankees portray. A great example is when Wright hit his 30th homer a while ago, they showed Willie. He just stood there and basically did nothing. He should have been the 1st one to great David and create excitement by celebrating a success of one of his players. He is blander then a plain piece of untoasted white bread.
So with this said and how upset I am with their performance, I want to make this message clear.
For the next 2 weeks I will be pulling for the Phils to win the NL East. The reason is true from what Jimmy Rollins said. They are the team to beat, their hitting is better and they have the drive and urgency to win. Their manager is a leader he is not afraid to protect his players. He shows emotion. Once the Mets( My Entire Team Sucks) goes home after Sept30 will the Wilpons react then. Jeff and Fred need to open their eyes, stop worrying about Citi Field and say he Omar and Willie in 3 years you both failed to win the WS. We spent a ton of $$$ on players and you failed to make it happen. They should have never hired Willie, his ego was too big to go to the minors and learn to manage. Just because he was a coach, it does not justify his knowledge to lead and manage. Oh yeah I would not be surprise that they hired him to piss the Skankees off and because of him being a minority along with their GM. They need to eat their losses and find a new combination of GM and Manager to stimulate some excitement. I hereby vote for either Joe Giriadi or Gary Carter for Field Manager and as far as GM,bring back Bobby Valentine. SO LETS GO PHILS. IT WILL BE NICE FOR THEM TO WIN THE NL EAST, WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN ON THE LAST DAY OF THE SEASON. SCREW YOU WILLIE, YOU SUCK
fine go root with those awful fans, once they pull their 1 game out of the WC collapse dont come back in october, when pedro pitches game 1 and goes 7 strong
i sure hope you decide to deactivate your metsblog account also then…
loser , go away
HEY MROSE ARE YOU GOING THRU WITHDRAWALS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO MORE JUICE BOXES AND MOMMY WON’T LET YOU LIVE WITH HER ANYMORE???
GO AWAY YOU MUST BE 5 YRS OLD. HOW CAN YOU TAKE THIS SO PERSONALLY. AN OPINION IS LIKE A**HOLE, EVERYONE HAS ONE AND YOURS STINKS LIKE ONE!!!
wow…and i’m the 5 year old??? you just used references to my a hole stinking and saying the fact that everyone has an a hole…
Calm down, seriously I know everyone has an opinion and yours would be better served on beer league if your gonna be a phillies fan….
Try having a better argument… then trying to say i’m 5 years old :)
Wow, I’m sorry, but I keep reading that and seeing how pathetic a “come back” that was….your not worth my time…at least other pessimistic fans can make good come back and arguments…
WOW!!! Dude why dont you become a Yankees fan? You sound like one right now. Sure, Im pissed off and upset that we could not win just 1 game of 7 against the Phillies, Get over it, move on. Sure, the METS have some problems and I dont think they have what it takes to win the WS. I will still watch and support them as far as they go. I will be surprised if we get out of the first round against the Padres. We couldnt beat them in the regular season. And if the Phillies take the WC its all over. I do think that once the Playoffs start all teams get a clean slate. Look at the Cards last year. Oh well, lets watch and see what happens and hope that Willie can flip that switch and get these guys to play consistant and good baseball. When all is said and done we only need to win 11 games in October.
is it me or do the posts get dumber everyday? or maybe the wackos come out after losses.
the mets have the best record in the national league during the month of september. they also have the best record over the course of the season.
looks like the other 15 managers in the nl should be fired since they can’t be a team led by willie. lol
No, Zen. It’s not you.
Makes me want to not read Metsblog anymore.
Not a real Mets fan. How can you root for the Phils to win the NL East?
No matter how much you dislike the manager, you should never turn your back on your team and root against them.
You’re a disgrace.
get off your soapbox and get a freaking clue dude.
Where were you from 2002 to 2005?
probably surfing the web for your Atlanta Braves jersey.
A little sour grapes that your little wittle team doesnt have the “drive to win”
what the HELL is that supposed to mean (spoken like frank costanza).
THE DRIVE TO WIN!?
right…so they have the drive…lose the drive against the phils…regain this ‘drive’ against the reds and braves…only to lose this so-called ‘motivation’ when their rivals come to town.
Get a clue man.
This isn’t football…they dont have to be pumped up every week with some inspiring “Any Given Sunday” speech.
They are paid to win…they know how to win…you don’t praise wilile for his passion for winning during a winning streak.
But your name becomes more pronounced during a few losses.
BLAME THE TEAM…yes, that includes willie for a few questionable moves here and there…but not for his lack of motivation.
Blivet.
I feel your pain—what you are depicting, in a perfect world, is , our METS ‘always’ showing those traits you so plaintivly list , but, attributed to the Phillies…I agree, the ’spark’ has NOT been apparent…oh, glimmers of the intangible, mostly from “Duke”, (we need more HEART?). I hate to agree, but, I wished it were US battling from beneath the ramparts, it seems to give everyone an extra edge….But, we are at the top, and everyone is GUNNING for us. I suppose we could be OUT OF FIRST place by the end of this coming week and have to show that HEART, battle back, scrap & tear & hope the leader board changes on the last day of the season–that would be dramatic—but, it will only ‘work’, if our guys can operate well in that environment…if they can’t, we will finish in SECOND place. Let’s not be “giving up” on our team. Yes, I’m DISGUSTED by the SLOPPY play today..it’s more than an UGLY game…it’s what Bart Giammatti said “Baseball is designed to break your heart”. So, now,I’m a Met Fan with a bit of a broken heart. SUCK IT UP! Tomorrow, we WIN!
“He should have been the 1st one to great David and create excitement by celebrating a success of one of his players.”
I felt the same way Willie did at that point…the Mets were still down. If you actually preach TEAM, then individual accomplishments shouldn’t mean much during the game. Gary Cohen made an apt point during the game that Wright would probably trade the HR for a win.
As for a winning atmosphere that Willie supposedly doesn’t create, the Mets have the best NL record.
Willie can’t control all the errors and walks by screaming, jumping and whining in the dugout. The manager can only do so much, at which point the players have to do their part.
I could go on and on to this, but I really hope you become a Phillies phan. There have been some really stupid comments on MetsBlog, but yours takes the cake. You must be the Phillie Phantic in disguise.
“He lacks the drive for success” “Once again it stems from the lack of teamwork and the manager involvement to create a WINNING ATMOSPHERE.”
“For the next 2 weeks I will be pulling for the Phils to win the NL East. The reason is true from what Jimmy Rollins said. They are the team to beat, their hitting is better and they have the drive and urgency to win.”
“SO LETS GO PHILS. IT WILL BE NICE FOR THEM TO WIN THE NL EAST, WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN ON THE LAST DAY OF THE SEASON. SCREW YOU WILLIE, YOU SUCK”
How does a man who won championships as a player and coach lack the drive for sucess? lol-Only a person who has never achieved success could make such an ignorant comment! AKA OXYMORON!
Lack of teamwork?! This Met team has been one of the TOP 5 TEAMS IN BASEBALL-BOTH LEAGUES! That’s the essence of team work!
And finally…You reveal what team you really root for -nice choice they haven’t been in the post season since 1993. Good luck on that one!
I agree with you that Willie sucks and needs to go, but root for the Phillies. Come on dude, you can’t be that angry!
Maybe the Mets are just lulling the Phillies into a false sense of cofidence! Besides, our squads not at full strength….take a deep cleansing breathe!
Either take it back and we can chalk it up to “an angry moment” or give up your metsblog username. Anyone who says he can root for the Phuckin’ Phillies is not a Mets’ fan.
The only difference between Greg Dobbs and say, Marlon Anderson or Endy Chavez, is that he’s on another team. You don’t scoff at those guys who were released from other teams when they shine for NYM.
I live close to Philthy and now I have to listen to guys at work think the sillies are going to the world series or something. I can just say, thank god we dont see them again and we can hopefully get healthy against some of these other teams.
I agree that the Phunny Phils will go on to lose 2 of 3 at StL and Maybe we can pick up a game.
Wright = MVP.
ALthough, the HR would have been better infront of Beltrans, but take what we can get.
doesn’t the mvp have to go to a phillie instead of wright since he cant lead his team to a win against them? go david!
oh, forgot its willie’s fault
I want to hear why the clown Willie has to say about this game. I really hope he loses his job for this.
Although I missed the game (I live in Georgia), I did happen to follow bits and pieces of it on MLB Gameday. What I’m trying to figure out is how six errors caused by the players could put all the blame on Willie…
All of the trivial b.s. in this comment section should be deleted and your comment should be the only one posted.
Duh, because Willie sends error vibes to all of his players. It’s all part of master plan to rule the universe… ;)
“I want to hear why the clown Willie has to say about this game. I really hope he loses his job for this.”
Yea… Fire him! Screw rational thinking, he lost today so fire him. I bet Joe Girardi will go 162-0 when he manages the mets and he’ll kick dirt all over the upmire after every call, cause thats the kinda manager he is. And its not like he has any Yankee roots like this loser Randolph does!
*sigh*
Dobbs 10th HR, 52 RBIs. 291 ABs.
“Best pinch hitter on the Planet!!” Gary Cohen would scream if he was on the Mets.
What is up with all of the self loathing on this site today?
Hate to break it to you Fallow, but Marlon is hitting .324 as a pinch hitter while Dobbs is only hitting .267 in that role.
The numbers you posted for Dobbs include his time as a starter. So Gary Cohen is right. There may be no better pinch hitter in the NL right now than Marlon.
Just because Marlon may have sucked for the Phillies is no reason to denigrate his time with the Mets. He’s been nothing short of fabulous for the Mets in 2005 and 2007 in terms of big clutch key hits.
Hate to break it to you, but Dobbs leads the NL with 18 pinch hit RBIS.
I’ll take the RBIs over batting average any day.
I’m not denigrating Marlon, just pointing out that each team has a guy that is a good pinch hitter who’s been released and picked up. Doesn’t mean that they can’t contribute.
Hate to break it to you Fallow, but RBIs are dependent on men on base and the number of at bats, and Dobbs has more at bats as a pinch hitter and I’d be willing to bet there were more men on base when he pinch hit too. I’ll take a pinch hitter with a better BA, SLG PCT and OPS a million times over.
I’ve seen other posts of yours where you bashed Marlon and Endy. Whatever they did for the Phillies, both have been great for the Mets.
I actually like Marlon. Endy’s defense was OK, he couldn’t hit a lick for us, tried to hit like a power hitter. I think he’s finally figured out his limitations.
Dobbs OPS and SLG PCT are close to Anderson’s, and his OBP is better, which is why I suppose you left that off.
If you’re going to cite those stats, you’d also have to see that Marlon’s not the leader in any of those. Conine has a higher BA as a pinch hitter and he’s on your team. I think I saw him ‘fielding’ over at first yesterday.
It was just a response to the bashing he took from whoever wrote the initial story.
I know Metsblog is myopic when it comes to other teams, but it was only two days before when Dobbs knocked in the winning run in the tenth inning in the opener of the most recent sweep.
But the point is it doesn’t matter what Endy did for the Phillies. He’s doing a very good job for the Mets. So why do some of you go around bashing him? Same thing for Marlon. And I’m not talking about just you. There have been other Philly trolls on this board this past weekend. (Which is interesting since you all disappeared in a flash after you team tanked after the last sweep. If the Mets increase their lead again are you going to go into hiding again?)
I left off Dobbs OBP because it wasn’t as relevant as OPS.. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Dobbs. That’s all you really need to know. Plus any Philly hitter’s stats have to be viewed as being inflated due to CBP. Marlon did most of his hitting at Shea and Dodgers stadium, both pitchers parks. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Conine’s as well who incidentally did most of his hitting at GAB. So Marlon is better than Conine too
As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or perhaps totally blind.
As an example of your myopia, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates your hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
It doesn’t matter what Endy did for the Phillies. He’s doing a great job for the Mets. So why do some of you go bash him? Same thing for Marlon. And I’m not talking about just you. There have been other trolls on this board this weekend. (Which is interesting since you all disappeared in a flash after you team tanked after the last sweep. If the Mets increase their lead again are you going to go into hiding again?)
I left off Dobbs OBP because it wasn’t as relevant as OPS. Marlon’s OPS is higher. That’s all you really need to know. Plus any Philly hitter’s stats have to be viewed as being inflated due to CBP. Marlon did most of his hitting at Shea and Dodgers stadium, both pitchers parks. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Conine’s as well who did most of his hitting at GAB. So Marlon’s better than Conine too.
As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or more.
As an example of your myopia, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
I left off Dobbs OBP because it wasn’t as relevant as OPS. Marlon’s OPS is higher. That’s all you really need to know. Plus any Philly hitter’s stats have to be viewed as being inflated due to CBP. Marlon did most of his hitting at Shea and Dodgers stadium, both pitchers parks. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Conine’s as well who did most of his hitting at GAB. So Marlon is better than Conine too.
As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or more.
As an example of your myopia, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
But the point is it doesn’t matter what Endy did for the Phillies. He’s doing a very good job for the Mets. So why do some of you go around bashing him? Same thing for Marlon. And I’m not talking about just you. There have been other Philly trolls on this board this past weekend. (Which is interesting since you all disappeared in a flash after you team tanked after the last sweep. If the Mets increase their lead again are you going to go into hiding again?)
I left off Dobbs OBP because it wasn’t as relevant as OPS.. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Dobbs. That’s all you really need to know. Plus any Philly hitter’s stats have to be viewed as being inflated due to CBP. Marlon did most of his hitting at Shea and Dodgers stadium, both pitchers parks. Marlon’s OPS is higher than Conine’s as well who incidentally did most of his hitting at GAB. So Marlons better than Conine too
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As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or perhaps totally blind.
As an example of your myopia, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates your hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
continued … As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or more.
As an example of your myopia, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
(continued from previous post) As for being myopic, name a popular fan blog which isn’t? I’m sure the one for Phlly fans is as myopic or even more so. As an example, you and others can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates your hitters’ stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Knocked???
“Just a sac fly”….funny. How many games have you lost to us by a run or two that you could have had if one of your guys had hit a sac fly or two?
He hit it so far, it would have been a cheap Citizens Bank Park HR.
And you’re gonna tell me his slam was cheap too?
(By the by, Dobbs’ OPS is two points better on the road).
Again, my point isn’t Marlon Anderson sucks, but that Dobbs is a good pinch hitter this season, and to pretend his two game winning hits in this series were a fluke is to ignore reality.
And I can’t remember Dobbs costing us a game like Anderson did in Philly.
(continuation) As for being myopic, what fan blog isn’t? I’m sure the one for the Phillies is as myopic or even more so.
As an example of your myopia, you and other Philly fans can’t seem to grasp how CBP inflates stats. Here’s something to chew on — Marlon has an OPS+ of 112 (142 with the Mets) and Dobbs is just at 106. In addition, i like how you say “Dobbs knocked in the winning run” when it was just a sac fly. Classic myopia.
well lets just hope we dont play the phillies in the first round of the playoffs because were going to be home early for us in the playoffs i just wonder after watching this game … what happened to the days if you sucked if you were just a horrible player you just dont play !!!! it comes down right to that are ballpen is horrible it needs to be fixed and fixed fast our offense will come along but our biggest problem is that the offense does not leave any room for mistake for our horrible (bull-pen)
Teams in the same division of the playoffs can’t play each other in the NLDS.
Hey Mutts fans–the broom is out for the third time this season. Eight in a row, baby!! Yeah, your team will probably hang on to win the Division, but you know that this post-season sure won’t last long for your guys with that lousy bullpen and that amazing ability to come up real small when the pressure is on. Oh, I forgot that ugly defense. Reyes can’t hold Rollins’ jockstrap. Don’t blame Willie, and all that whining you guys did about the umps from the games on Friday and Saturday won’t cut it, either. Fact of the matter is that the Mutts just rolled over once again. The dogs were out in force at Shea on Friday night, and I guess the dog days of August have carried over to September. Enjoy the rest of your miserable weekend.
um actually, according to espn’s zone rating reyes has the second best behind vizquel…………… reyes is 10x better defensive ss than rollins just a bad day for him and the mets so shutup and go watch the sillies lose 2 of three to the cardinals
How many games back are you guys? And who are you to talk about a lousy pen and coming up small with the pressure on?
Kettle… pot?
Loser…Phillies, Eagles, Sixers, Flyers. Nothing but losers and cheesesteaks in that bottom of a food chain city of your’s.
I may not sleep well tonight but at least I can wake up tomorrow morning and know there’s more to life than cheesesteaks and booing Santa Claus.
I hope you’re not using your daddy’s computer at his law firm to troll on message boards. Does he know what you’re up to? Maybe I should email his law firm to alert them about what may be unauthorized use of their computers. Would you like me to do that? I still have the name of the firm even though you deleted it from your profile. :wink:
And yes, it’s true. Reyes is a far superior defensive shortstop to Rollins by all defensive metrics.
Remember, 100+ years of phutility and counting!
Yeah, the Phillies have a 100+ year history.
Our team didn’t decide it prefers sunny California over roach-filled New York.
I guess your team prefers cheesesteaks, cheesy Rocky statues, and your own roaches more?
And what does the move of another franchise have to do with anything? Stay on topic there, skippy.
Let me ask you, would you rather have Reyes and Wright OR Utley and Howard OR Cabrera and H Rameriz?
. . . yawn. Catch us if you can.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GK_bHESeifk
Broadway Joe PLEASE LEARN HOW THIS WORKS. IF FOR SOME STRANGE REASON THE METS WIN THE NL EAST AND THE PHILS ( LET GO PHILS) WIN THE WILD CARD THE METS CANNOT FACE THEM. YOU CANNOT FACE THE WILD CARD IF YOUR ARE IN THE SAME DIVISION. SO PLEASE KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE YOU BLOG.
Forget to take your Xanax today?
Your username is no longer “metman1964.” It is now “Phillyboy 2007.” Get lost, pal. You’re on the wrong board.
The fact hat Mota is still pitching is a disgrace. Blame who ever you want, Omar for keeping him or Willie for playing him. This team does not step up for meaningful games and that does not bode well for the playoffs.
I’ve been a Met Fan for 40 years (probably longer then most of you have been around) this is it, this is being a Met fan. It’s never easy (except 86), frustrating, confusing, etc. I was happy when they hired Willie, not so much now. I’m tired of hearing “that’s not Willie”, “he’s different, quite”.How about closing the clubhouse door and ripping someone, flip over the after game spread and show your team you have some emotion. If they don’t go to the series this year, he’s got to go….
Dear ‘86′,
I’ve been a Met Fan their whole life…since the inception, 1962. I became a LIFER on Fathers’ Day, 1964 @ Shea…Jim Bunnings’ Perfect Game! Game One of a DH…and,my Father made us stay for Game 2…we lost that one, too. My Dad said, Real Met fans don’t give up….We never have & we never will. I love my team; I hated how they played today..but, I’m a Met Fan… for life! That being said, I thought the Phillies should have been tested for amphetimines this weekend, they were so HIGH to kill us….
Enjoy the 2007 ride, ‘86′, you have paid dearly, all these years!
Mets86, I’ve been a Mets fan since 1973 and you are right, its never easy….including 1986 when they lost the first 2 at home and were down to their final out in game 6! But, I guess being a Met fan is about, “you gotta believe!”
look I hope beyond hope that we make the playoffs b/c once your there anything can happen (see last years cardinals and tigers), unfortunately with this manager and bullpen I just can’t see us lasting long enough to win a championship….here is wishing for a Joe Girardi led team in 2008.
Also one question to all the Willie supporters who would win a title with this team first Bobby Cox or Willie Randolph?
Well, seeing as if the Braves had to re-hire him for a second tenure before he finally won one, then proceeding to becoming the Bills of the MLB… Hmmm…
All I know is, It’s all about what happens in the playoffs… Sucks how the magic number can’t be down to around six, but once we’re in, let’s focus on just that… Playoffs. It’s unrealistic to think that last week’s surge could happen for two more weeks into the playoffs, but if the Mets can have another run of eight or nine games before the playoffs, I’ll like their chances… Remember, it’s all about who’s hot coming into it. (Which is wishing they would get in as a wild card, but at the same time, I can’t boast to all my friends who are Bravos fans that the dynasty is officially over…)
You know, one more post from me. I leave for the Bahamas next sunday and I was really praying that the division would be just about wrapped up. (magic number down to like 5 or 6), which it probably would have been with taking just one game this series.
I knew after Beltrans homerun to tie it, that Mota was going to give up atleast one run to let the phils keep the mojo.
What does willie think sometimes..
where was anyone else..?
I know we cant seem to beat them, but all i can think about are the dodgers from 88 and how we owned them and then the playoffs were a diff story.
PLease guys, will 6 in a row, watch the sillies lose 4 of 6 and get the number down before I leave///
A game like today’s can drive any Mets fan crazy. But if you have watched the team all year, you know what its faults are. We have a hot-and-cold offense and a shaky bullpen. What normally wins games for us is strong starting pitching and good defense. When you don’t get that, the games can get ugly, like today. Games like this (6 errors, 11 walks?) for the Mets are few and far in between, so the best thing to do is take a deep breath, forget it, and show up for the next game. Even if the Phillies make it to the NLCS (which I think is unlikely based on their play against the rest of the NL), the chance of further sweep-itude is unlikely. Things like this have a tendency to even out – there’s only so much value to something like “getting inside their heads” when your starting pitching and bullpen are not as good as the other team’s. Keep it together people! Let’s go, Mets!
Good post.
Pain? Pain was being at all three games vs. Philly. Add in a Field Box loss to Atlanta, 13-5, and I went 0 for 4 this week. So magic number 11 is still 11 after 4 days–sad. It’s hard to get on Willie on a day the Mets made 6 errors, but the crowd died from the joy of Beltran’s homer once Mota came in. (Castillo then played goat in a weekend full of goats.) I’m almost at the point of destroying Shea’s DJ–I’m sooooo friggin’ tired of the “Jose! Jose! Jose!” chant–Jose went somewhere after April, and I’m staring at the milk carton. Save it for when he does something–most likely after a winter where he gets some much-needed rest and his head straightened out. It seems , though, that when the Mets play the Phils they really are competing against some poor umpiring instead of sucking of it up, accepting the situation, and dealing with it like a mature team.
dude, will you stay away from the ballpark please. You’re like the kiss of death! Maybe you should increase you life insurance please!
ATTENTION: Mets Ownership
I will not buy tickets next season if Willie Randolph is still the manager of this ballclub.
This has got to be the funniest comment I’ve ever read. We won’t miss you next year, buddy.
one word: gutless. i hope we do play the phils in the nlcs so we can get absolutely embarrassed and exposed. this team is a joke. if Wright doesn’t win MVP this year, then they need to redefine what MVP means. he is literally the only person on this team (players/coaches included) who has any heart whatsoever. Without him we’d be in 3rd place.
Realist718. The Mets are lucky to have you as a fan.
It was an “ugly” game for sure, but, I have to put LoDuca, and Pedro Martinez, at least these 2, into the mix in the HEART conversation!
Petey is a ‘world-class’ competitor—and “Duke”, well, if given the chance, he would be the “Policeman” on this team.
To tell you the truth, when MOTA gave the lead back,after Beltran’s HR, I was hoping(not that I advocate violence) for an old-fashioned BENCH CLEARING BRAWL. I actually was thinking JOE SMITH was sent in there to PLUNK the first batter & a quick shower! We have had a frustrating weekend—I won’t kick the dog, but, think of how ‘they’ feel? They HBP a few of our guys over these 3 games and we never ‘retaliated’? Send in JOE to at least give ‘em some CHIN MUSIC! Now, on to “take out the frustration” on the rest of the NL East—Yes, it was an ugly game–but,it’s NOT VOODOO. It’s out of their system now. Let’s GO METS!
pa·thet·ic (pə-thět’ĭk) adj.
1. Arousing or capable of arousing sympathetic sadness and compassion: “The old, rather shabby room struck her as extraordinarily pathetic” (John Galsworthy).
2. Arousing or capable of arousing scornful pity.
3. The way the New York Mets have been playing against the Phillies in big games in 2007.
And I don’t want to hear anybody say they’re not big games. Forget not putting their foot on the Phillies throats, the Mets never even had the chance. The Mets did, however, blow a chance to put a little distance between them and the 2nd place team. Granted, there’s only 13 games left for the Phils to make up 3.5 games in the standings, but that can easily be done in a week.
This was a HUGE series and the Mets let it get away.
Talk about world upside down these last 2 debacles in a row have been while cole hamels is injured.
at least the lead is twice what it was when we left philly 2 weeks ago, I hope the mets figure out away to do awesome on the road again.
I am rooting for arizona to win the west though, i’m not sure I mind the mets NOT having homefield against them except that now that I think about it, in ‘99 that a$$ colangelo had all the games start at midnight eastern time. is he still in charge of that??
Everyone, let Philly have their moment in the sun for a minute, and stop bashing all the members of this team you all no doubt “loved” last week when we rolled to a 7 game lead. The reason I say this, is because you must ALWAYS remember, all philthydelphia is, is a glorified piss stop between NYC and DC…
Let’s face it…the Phillies are in our head…yes us as fans and the Mets players too! That said, let’s say the Phils finish strong at 9-4, that means the Mets have to finish .500 or 7-7 vs the Marlins, Nats and Cards (one game) to clinch the NL East. I HOPE we can handle that!
Silver lining here: if the Phils come on strong and win the WC then we will at least draw the NL Central winner whether we have the best record in the NL or not. We also draw the NL Central winner if SD wins the WC and AZ has the best record. So basically, in the ideal world where we get best record and the Phils watch from home, we draw the toughest opponent (I think b/c of pitching) in the SD Padres! So I guess we should be careful what we wish for!
PS – I am not a jinx!
And what a series by Rollins. As much as I hate to say it, the man put his money where his mouth was. We all ridiculed him in April when he proclaimed his team the team to beat, but he has put up the the numbers this season.
If they pitched against everyone else the way they do against the MEts they would be the team to beat!
Except that what Rollins didn’t really deliver on his prediction if you take it literally, since he said the Phils would be the “team to beat”. Regardless of how badly they’ve beaten the Mets, they’ve never put themselves in a position where it was necessary to beat them heading into any of those series.
So, it was, and still is, a quite laughable proclamation to make, when you aren’t sitting in 1st place at any point during the season and you aren’t the defending champs.
Very true…never once were they in first!
i was at the game. it was on the worst games i’ve seen in a long, long time. the fielding was brutal. the mets played like they could careless. and willie is just awful. he’s buddy harrelson reinvented. bringing mota in is absurd. cerrone. how do even try to defend that. the reason i don’t post often here is b/c this blog too often tries to make excuses and find the silver lining. instead of calling it like it is. this team really embarassed itself this weekend
Willie Randolph is not responsible for many things, especially today. Having said that, I think that over time he has proven to be quite a poor strategist. The other night with Gomez on third and Castillo at the plate… where is the squeeze? Wagner comes in next inning and strikes out the side, would have been game over. Could have spared us watching DeFelice try to catch foul balls with his face… Same game, first when it’s tied and eventually a one run defecit… how do you let Marlon Anderson end the game unused on your bench? For the sake of Jeff Conine (vs. a righty) and Shawn Green???
I watch virtually every Mets game and there are countless examples of his strategic incompetence hurting the team. Letting Moises Alou run the bases in a close, late game, and then bringing in Endy for D anyway after the frame is over…Huh? As far as the bullpen, much of that is not his fault. However with Schoeneweis, it’s not rocket science… the man can get lefties out. Against righties he might as well be a batting practice machine: .328 BAA, and 7 HR’s in only 29 innings worth of ABs. Any of the times this year that Willie has brought him in to face righties with the game still in question I don’t see a logical defense. I can’t say purely by recollection, but perhaps “Meat” has finally learned this lesson and thus the resulting Schoeneweis “hot streak.”
Plain and simple, while he may or may not be an effective manager in regards to the other facets of the job, Willie Randolph is not the brightest bulb in the box when it comes to managing the strategic elements of a game. Period. This bothers me because I worry that his incompetence will prove much more costly if he screws up in a critical postseason game. The Mets’ talent is good enough to win them consecutive division titles regardless of the manager, but in October, where every game is so critical the story may be different. The one thing we have going for us here is that most Major League managers are every bit as incompetent. That doesn’t make him good though.
Matt, your post-game wrap-up is perfect, reflecting I believe what are the feelings of the vast majority of Mets fans.
Yes, this was another disappointing sweep by the Phillies, but I can’t help but feel the Mets will still win the division. How they do in the postseason is anyone’s guess. They had weaknesses in the bullpen all season long so what they did this weekend while extreme is not exactly new. I just hope the bullpen can get it together by the postseason.
And please, Omar, no Mota on the postseason roster. Can we please have Smith instead?
Weren’t the 1988 Mets something like 11-1 against the the Dodgers in the Reg. Season.
The difference was the Dodgers had a ridiculously HOT pitcher in Orel and the Mets do not…..I’m not optimistic about a post-season matchup with Phily!
All the talk about how well they did after the last Phillies sweep makes me wonder why they needed yet another ‘wake up call’.
You Mets fans are at it again, ripping Willie, as if he was the one who made six errors or left the ball over the middle of the plate to Dobbs.
Gee, last I checked, the Mets were still in first place and likely to stay there.
Whine all you want about Willie, but many Philly fans would gladly trade managers with the Mets – GMs too.
Phils swept, we Philly fans are happy that they’re staying close to the Pads, but be real, we’re still looking up at the Mets.
Who brought in Mota in a tie game? The players didn’t. Willie did. Willie is insane; he keeps expecting Mota to come through in close spots and he NEVER has.
The Phillie fan is dead right. Just so you know, most of the people who post on this blog don’t accurately represent us Mets fans. Most of us are much smarter, and less spoiled, and are not clones of yankee fans.
“You Mets fans are at it again, ripping Willie, as if he was the one who made six errors or left the ball over the middle of the plate to Dobbs.
Gee, last I checked, the Mets were still in first place and likely to stay there.
Whine all you want about Willie, but many Philly fans would gladly trade managers with the Mets – GMs too.
Phils swept, we Philly fans are happy that they’re staying close to the Pads, but be real, we’re still looking up at the Mets.” AWH
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HEY AWH: For starters, Why would Willie bring in Mota to pitch and allow him to load the bases. As soon as one guy got on, he should have pulled him. Even better not use him, let him rust in the bullpen and not play. Years ago when players did not perform they stayed in the dog house and did not play. He is currently doing this with Wagner. OH yeah he is white and not one of the guys or Omar’s boys. AWH I would love for you to tell everyone why we should not pick on Willie and want him out of here. Please list 3 things in detail that he has done positive this year to show emotion, attitude toward the competition and the drive to have his team win BIG SERIES such as this. He has no strategy on a game plan, does not take chances to show the other team that the Mets are for real in the NL. I still think about him allowing David Wells to beat us and even bunt against us and WIN!! AWH please respond and let me Chant again:
METS SUCKS : METS = MY ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS
WILLIE SUCKS AND WILLIE MUST GO
Uh… I don’t think pulling the race card really makes your argument look very intelligent… hell, even today that would leave no accounting for David Newhan. Rational people tend to give more credence to arguments that make sense.
Well, to be fair, hitting “enter” doesn’t make his argument look very intelligent…
“Please list 3 things in detail that he has done positive this year to show emotion, attitude toward the competition and the drive to have his team win BIG SERIES such as this.”
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Yeah, cause that series against the braves after we got swept by Philly last time wasn’t important at all. We knew all the way that our Mets had that series in our back pocket coming in.
*Sigh*
And because you played the race card earlier… What the F is your problem dude! Grow up and stop being ignorant to everything that is going on around you.
that braves sweep was b/c of pedro, not willie
Theres an idea! Lets have Pedro be our player-manager and we’ll never lose.
Uugh!! You people…
NEWSFLASH TO PHILLY FANS: You guys have never won anything. Eagles, Phillies, 76ers, Flyers. You’re only winner is Rocky and he’s make-believe!
NEWSFLASH TO WILLIE: If you can’t get your team up to play against the 2nd place team in your division, a team that proclaimed they were the team to beat in April, then you really need to take this off-season to work on your motivational speaking. I hope the speech at Fordham was better or there will be alot of unemployed graudates from the Class of 2007.
NEWSFLASH TO THE METS: Get your heads out of your a$$e$…the playoffs are less than 3 weeks away. Its time to play good baseball against good teams!
Yeah it sucks that the mets just tanked in the series that they were supposed to be getting revenge for the last series they tanked , and yeah as a fan it’s disheartening that the bullpen can’t hold a tie (and by the bullpen I mean–well you know who i mean…) but at the same time who cares, we are probably still going to win the division. If you will recall (as Keith has mentioned a few times this season) in ‘86 the mets had a lot of trouble with the Phillies that year and also lost the season series.) Baseball is kind like boxing, in that certain people just match up well against each other.
>>NEWSFLASH TO WILLIE: If you can’t get your team up to play against the 2nd place team in your division<<
You know, when the team on the field makes 6 errors, 5 of which were by seasoned veterans, no amount of words or motivation by the manager is going to help. The blame goes to the 9 men on the field. Why is this concept hard to grasp? I mean did anyone give Willie credit for getting the team “up” to sweep the Braves in Atlanta after losing the 4 games series in Philly two weeks ago? Guess not…
I almost get the feeling that some Mets “Fans” would rather want the Mets to lose sop that they can be justified in their soap box rants against Willie. I am not a fan of Willie, but I have some perspective… or at least a lot more than those who want him fired now.
Newsflash to Mets fans:
You haven’t won a title since 1986. Not much to crow about. That gang should have won at least one more title, or even a playoff series.
Haven’t exactly burned up the league since 1962. (Actually have fewer wins and division titles than the Phillies during your existence-and they suck/stink/blow/whatever word you want to vent with).
Newsflash to Fallow:
Mets have 2 WS championships in 45 years.
Phillies have 1 WS championship in 124 years! :lol:
And it was easier to win championships back then than it is today.
And you’re trying to say since 1962, the Phillie’ 6 division titles and 1 WS ring trumps the Mets 5 division division titles and 2 WS rings :?: No one would want to trade places with the Phillies!
It must be phrustrating and phutile to be a philly fan.
Very clever use of the “ph”. How do you do it?
Yeah, those losses in the 20’s and oughts really bug me still. I can remember them all. Good argument. Of course, I was an A’s fan back then, we won a lot of titles with good old Connie Mack.
And since I don’t remember any baseball from the 60s, that ‘Miracle Mets’ deal bothers me not a whit. Congrats on that. Are you old enough to remember that? If so, you’d think you’d seen enough baseball not to be upset with the Phillies. All those glorious Mets seasons should have you all satisfied by now.
Oh phallow, now you’re being too phunny. :lol:
Only a philly fan would bring up a team’s past history to try to tweak other phans, then when their own history is thrown back in their phaces, tries to cry phoul. :cry:
You get a phailing grade for inconsistency and hypocrisy.
Sorry, dude. Was responding to a previous post (with funny Rocky mention!) by “NYCuban” higher up in the thread.
Didn’t nest, didn’t mean to make you go all Paul LoDuca after a called strike.
Don’t worry, dude, I didn’t go “Paul LoDuca.” Guess you didn’t notice the smilies. (Myopic? :lol: ) They’re there for a purpose.
Still, even if you were responding to Cuban, you brought up history yourself so at least be consistent.
I’d just like to say that I apoligize for some of us sounding like yankee fans by saying that you have “10,000 losses” and all that crap. I know that is the Phillie equivilant of hearing “26 World Series” and I know how annoying and irrelevant it is to hear that. So, I apoligize on behalf of the dumber ones of us here at this blog.
As I say to the yankee fans, what you did 100 years ago doesn’t matter, what you did 10 years ago doesn’t matter, all that matters is right now and all of that other (ahem) stuff, is completely irrelevant.
Theres no way the Mets can make the playoffs. The Phils are poised to run off a 10-3 run the rest of the way, the best the Mets can is what, 7-7 I think.
That means the Mets are in serious jeopardy.
Sorrry guys, our team is toast
stupid comment dude…
Wow…
I hope you have a great week at work sorting glass…
Additionally, the Mets are 20-9 this year against the teams they willl play the rest of the season. Not sure how you can logically say 7-7 is the best we can hope for… oh, just answered my question.
Even better, in your scenerio, they would end up tied and have to play the 1 game tie breaker! Wouldn’t that be fun.
i have no doubt the mets will come out seeking vengeance and just destroy their next couple of opponents…..once again, congratulations to dwright
damn this would be a great time for el duque to throw a bullpen session, and delgado to take some batting practice, just like pedro
when did mets fans become yankees fans? you guys call willie gutless, but look at you. in the last 3 weeks, i saw everyone jump off the bandwagon with the phillies sweep, jump back on and praise the team when they had that nice streak highlighted by 5 of 6 against the bravos, and then jump back off. show some guts and support your team and support your manager. i dont like willie, but in defense of him, what is he supposed to do if his starters cant go more than 6 innings. every game, hes forced to get 3 innings from his bullpen. face it, our bullpen is crap. mota and schoenweis cant be trusted, sele is garbage, heilman is vulnerable to the gopherball, feliciano has choked in big spots, and wagner is far from rivera.
what bothers me more than the mets losing is how disgraceful our fans are. last year was unbelievable, and we were in cruise control from day 1 until the nlcs. the mlb season is 162 games, and its filled with ups and downs. last year, we had no downs until the nlcs and that has spoiled a lot of us.
theres 14 games left, and if we go 7-7 against the bottom-feeders of the nl east, philly would have to go 11-2 to steal our division crown. once were in the playoffs, anything can happen. in 1988, we lost to the dodgers in the nlcs despite owning them in the regular season. in 2000, the yanks went 3-14 to close the season and won the ws. in 2004, the bosox came back down 3-0 against the team that has owned them since 1918. and last year, the cards won the ws despite only winning 83 games in the regular season. so in sum, bring on the cubs, padres, dbacks, the phillies or whoever we play in the playoffs. support your team, stand by your players and manager, and dont act like a yankee fan. lets go mets. you just gotta believe.
Why do we bother to root for the Mets? I’ve said it a million times, God is a Yankee fan. Nothing else can explain their unbelieveable luck! Jeter just hit a 3-run shot to give them a lead in Boston.
MOTA is dreaful. Willie lacks an imagination. Yes the bullpen sucks. but why would you put mota in a game like this, especially after they tied the game. All the mets needed to do was to win one game from the phillies and the division would pretty much be won. willie had to manage this like a playoff game, especially after they came back to tie it. why not humber to start the inning? joe smith. i’m tired of all the apologist, who want to see the silver lining in everything. look i want this team to win as much as the next person. i’ve rooted for this team for three dozen years and i’ve seen plenty of disappointments yet i still cheer for them. but face facts, this team lacks a lot. it probably won’t get to the world series and willie sucks
from tomorrow’s NYTimes…says it all…
But in the big picture, the Mets over the weekend again showed scouts, fans and potential playoff opponents that they were capable of playing three substandard games when even one victory would have brought them within clinching distance of a playoff berth.
Because of this, it is reasonable to ask: Do these Mets have the hunger, focus and maturity to contend for a World Series title? In their postgame clubhouse, their collective demeanor showed little emotion as they packed for a seven-game trip that begins tonight in Washington.
“I hope guys in there take it personally; I’m definitely upset,” said third baseman David Wright, whose bases-empty home run in the seventh inning was his 30th of the season. “They embarrassed us. We were in a position to bury these guys and we failed miserably.”
sometimes baseball is baseball. do you think the mets are a 6 error team? do you think phillies pitching is much better than mets pitching?
last year, we all thought that our offense could bring us through the storm of losing all those pitchers. and what happened? we couldnt hit. did that mean we were a bad offensive team last year? i dont think so. sometimes it happens. and its everyones fault. but keeping things in perspective, the team has a great opportunity to win their 2nd division , so keep your chin up.
lets go mets
NY Times — … “it is reasonable to ask: Do these Mets have the hunger, focus and maturity to contend for a World Series title? In their postgame clubhouse, their collective demeanor showed little emotion as they packed for a seven-game trip that begins tonight in Washington.”
There’s enough blame to go around for today’s puke-
Oliver Perez -
I’m getting sick of his Dr Jekyll/Mr Hyde crap. Which Ollie do we get – the lights out, shutout type of pitcher who might throw the first Met no hitter someday, or today’s version with 7 BBs, which makes his fielders slow and flat footed.
Jose –
hitting .230 for the last 3 weeks, an unbelievably stupid base running blunder Saturday to take the bat out of Wright’s hands and end a promising inning, and 2 errors on 1 play to let in the first 2 runs. Mr. pop-up.
Mota –
after Beltran ties the game and puts some life back into the crowd, walks the first batter he faces.
Castillo –
Mota slips a DP pill to Howard and Castillo turns it into 1st and 2nd with 0 outs.
Sosa -
walks in a run to give back the lead and wants to make sure he doesn’t walk in another – so gives up a GS.
On the radio, Tom McCarthy mentioned a stat that speaks volumes about this year’s team. With 2 outs and RISP, Alou is hitiing .100
Beltran and Delgado just under .200
Reyes – .205, 0 for his last 14
Wright – .213.
How has HoJo been any kind of improvement over Rick Down??? Omar needs to get the Texas Ranger hitting coach – Jaramillo – here next year.
Meanwhile, I’m watching the Yankees and they say that Jeter leads the MLB with a .439 BA with RISP — and then he hits a 3 run HR to break a tie and win the game! Where the hell is our Jeter/Ortiz/Vlad/A-Rod/Chipper?? Last year, we knew that no comeback was impossible. This year, different story. Willie – not a genius, but the problem is much bigger than him.
To be fair, the Mets OPS since HoJo has been hitting coach has risen 50 points.
But you are right. The Mets’ situational hitting has been poor this year, especially Alou.
Funny how no one mentions what a genius Rick Peterson is now that the pitching is imploding. It’s possible the WS is in the cards, but I think this is going to be one busy off-season for Omar.
The series with the Phillies is now history. We have to turn our attention to the remaining games on the schedule. Brian Lawrence and his 84 mph fastball is scheduled to start tomorrow nights game. Sending Brian Lawrence against any major league team has to be a concern. It’s amazing that the Yankees are willing to send Ian Kennedy out to pitch while the Mets will send Brian Lawrence rather than start Humber. A Phillies win against the Cardinals coupled with a Mets loss will make the last 2 weeks very interesting.
We should tak solace in the fact that the Phillies are doing to the fans what the Mets have done to us so many times in the past – giving them false hope. Come two weeks from now we will all forget this debacle and enjoy the NLDS while the Phillies will be at home after just missing the wild card. We just went through this a few weeks ago and the Mets responded, everyone relax.
We’ve seen this story before, Mets get swept by the Phils, then the Phils lose a series to the Mets while the Mets look strong against everyone else. Not to say that this loss doesn’t bother me because it does.
The Mets played the sloppiest baseball I’ve ever seen and I thought they had a hard time with the Braves, I haven’t seen so many mental lapses in a ballgame then I did with the Phillies. I miss Chad Bradford, Darren Oliver and Sanchez. Too bad Sanchez didn’t realize that reporting to the Mets in good shape wasn’t important enough to him. But what can you do, right?
I see alot of people begging for Willie to use someone else than Mota … Well, he tried that for awhile in Sosa and he just gave up a game winning grandslam to … Greg Dobbs. Yuck. There is only 3 – 4 guys in the pen that really I have any faith in and if you use those guys more then you should use them, their arms will turn to mush. Just ask guys like Scott Proctor, who Joe Torre overused because he wanted to Proctor to cover up the rest of the bullpen that could’ve get the job done.
The Bullpen is just not that good … Other than Heilman and Feliciano and Wagner, who else do you really trust or want up there in a Important spot? Willie has to flip a coin and see which guy gets the assignment.
The sloppy defense was just dreadful, the Mets should be ashamed, embaressed and humilated about the way they played against the Phillies. You had to just about hold your breath on every catch, every pitch, every bobble. Hopefully they can have a successful roadtrip and things will be good as new.
Wow, so much for the “It’s time for Payback” and “Not letting anybody beat us in our house” rhetoric that was going around the clubhouse before this series began.
Mets got beat by a team who wanted to win more than they did, period. They should be embarrassed by their play over the weekend, and they didn’t lose gracefully either. Complaining about umpire calls? That was the least of their problems.
What they should worry about is why “the most electric player in baseball” can’t buy a hit lately. Or why their MVP candidate came up lame most of the time with the tying runs on. Or why the team bothers to go out on the field with gloves on if they have no idea how to catch the ball. Or why the manager continues to pick the wrong time to try and test guys in his bullpen at the wrong times.
There was plenty of blame to go around in this series. If this team can’t find it within themselves to get up for big regular season series, how are they going to respond in the postseason?
Agreed!
Are you saying this wasn’t a meaningful series.
gomez? what planet are you on. the guy has shown nothing. reyes has disappointed a lot of late. but the fact you can put gomez as a keeper over reyes is so absurd
Trumpzilla,
Did you get permission from the Metsfan thought police before you voiced your disappointment?
lol
You are implying that he actually thought…