Comments on: Note: Goodbye, Magic Number http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: m00kie http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18191 m00kie Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:39:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18191 actually, no it's not the same as last year with the fans. Last year they were optimistic and hopeful, this year, it's expectant and spoiled. Huge difference. actually, no it’s not the same as last year with the fans. Last year they were optimistic and hopeful, this year, it’s expectant and spoiled. Huge difference.

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18104 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:07:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18104 Procrastimetor - you made this comment: "...spewing negativity about it only makes everything worse". Please explain what you mean by that, I am curious. Do you mean that the Mets will be more motivated if us fans do not complain, do not threaten to boycott, and do not give up on them, or vice versa? I think that if players feel the fans are giving up on them, perhaps they may try harder. That's how it works in real life anyway. People aways try harder when their job is on the line. These lifeless, unmotivated players need to sense that perhaps their jobs may be on the line if they don't kick it in. Of course, I could be wrong. Go ahead and accept their lackluster play, perhaps they will turn it around knowing we love them no matter how terrible they play! Procrastimetor – you made this comment:
“…spewing negativity about it only makes everything worse”. Please explain what you mean by that, I am curious.

Do you mean that the Mets will be more motivated if us fans do not complain, do not threaten to boycott, and do not give up on them, or vice versa? I think that if players feel the fans are giving up on them, perhaps they may try harder. That’s how it works in real life anyway. People aways try harder when their job is on the line. These lifeless, unmotivated players need to sense that perhaps their jobs may be on the line if they don’t kick it in.

Of course, I could be wrong. Go ahead and accept their lackluster play, perhaps they will turn it around knowing we love them no matter how terrible they play!

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18093 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:59:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18093 Tug McGraw's famous saying, "You gotta believe!", was directed toward his teammates, not the fans. We need a Tug McGraw to stand up and start telling his teammates that. I fear it is too late though. I hope not. Tug McGraw’s famous saying, “You gotta believe!”, was directed toward his teammates, not the fans.

We need a Tug McGraw to stand up and start telling his teammates that. I fear it is too late though. I hope not.

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18089 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:56:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18089 Motivating the team is the manager's job, not the fans or even other players. I agree, a player like Reyes can motivate them. But when you have a 41 year-old hitting the cover off of the ball, shouldn't that motivate them? Or Wright, having a near MVP season, shouldn't that motivate them? The blame for their lack of motivation falls on their lifeless manager - not on their fans or their teammates. Motivating the team is the manager’s job, not the fans or even other players. I agree, a player like Reyes can motivate them. But when you have a 41 year-old hitting the cover off of the ball, shouldn’t that motivate them? Or Wright, having a near MVP season, shouldn’t that motivate them? The blame for their lack of motivation falls on their lifeless manager – not on their fans or their teammates.

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18081 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:52:35 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18081 Kudos on your post, Stache, except for the cursing, which I abhor. Kudos on your post, Stache, except for the cursing, which I abhor.

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18052 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:38:20 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18052 The problem is, Chuck13171, these SHOULD HAVE been meaningless games! We blew a 7 game lead! Are we supposed to be happy about this? I am totally frustrated and angry with this team. I live in Cardinal territory, and have to face a bunch of pathetic Cardinal fans every day. They were quiet once their beloved Cards were out of the picture. But now that the Mets are close to eliminating THEMSELVES, they are coming out of the woodwork to cheer the Mets downfall. These friggin' games against the Nationals and the Marlins SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEANINGLESS GAMES!!! The problem is, Chuck13171, these SHOULD HAVE been meaningless games! We blew a 7 game lead! Are we supposed to be happy about this? I am totally frustrated and angry with this team. I live in Cardinal territory, and have to face a bunch of pathetic Cardinal fans every day. They were quiet once their beloved Cards were out of the picture. But now that the Mets are close to eliminating THEMSELVES, they are coming out of the woodwork to cheer the Mets downfall.

These friggin’ games against the Nationals and the Marlins SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEANINGLESS GAMES!!!

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18031 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:32:23 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-18031 Boy, can I relate to your feelings! I will go on, but I am totally frustrated and upset with this team. They are an embarrassment. Boy, can I relate to your feelings! I will go on, but I am totally frustrated and upset with this team. They are an embarrassment.

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17999 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:20:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17999 I don't get you. Do you think us "believing" will have one iota of a difference in the outcome? That sounds awfully superstitious to me! I am not a superstitious person; I am a realist. Right now, the way the Mets are playing and the way the Phils are playing, I think the odds that the Mets win the division are less than 50-50. Of coruse, they could have a turn-around and get hot all of a sudden, and the Phillies could get ice cold, but the probability of that happening is very low. Of course, I will still be watching the games and rooting for the team that I have followed since 1968. I've been through the lean '70s, the frustrating '80's, the embarrassing '90's, and the pathetic teams of 2001-2005. I will ALWAYS be a Mets fan. Always. However, that does not mean I have to check my sensibility and common sense at the door every time I enter Shea Stadium. These are professionals and they do not need me cheering blindedly for them when they play shoddy baseball. As another poster put it, they're not little leaguers that need to be "encouraged" to play hard. This is their job! They better start doing it, or it's going to be a long - and embarrassing - winter for them AND us! I don’t get you. Do you think us “believing” will have one iota of a difference in the outcome? That sounds awfully superstitious to me! I am not a superstitious person; I am a realist. Right now, the way the Mets are playing and the way the Phils are playing, I think the odds that the Mets win the division are less than 50-50. Of coruse, they could have a turn-around and get hot all of a sudden, and the Phillies could get ice cold, but the probability of that happening is very low.

Of course, I will still be watching the games and rooting for the team that I have followed since 1968. I’ve been through the lean ’70s, the frustrating ’80′s, the embarrassing ’90′s, and the pathetic teams of 2001-2005. I will ALWAYS be a Mets fan. Always. However, that does not mean I have to check my sensibility and common sense at the door every time I enter Shea Stadium. These are professionals and they do not need me cheering blindedly for them when they play shoddy baseball. As another poster put it, they’re not little leaguers that need to be “encouraged” to play hard. This is their job! They better start doing it, or it’s going to be a long – and embarrassing – winter for them AND us!

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17973 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:02:16 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17973 I meant HOME record in baseball (with the Yankees). I meant HOME record in baseball (with the Yankees).

]]> By: Mets_Fan_in_MO http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17969 Mets_Fan_in_MO Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:01:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/27/note-goodbye-magic-number/#comment-17969 They had the best road record in baseball last year. I guess we had a completely different set of fans then, right? It is assinine to blame the fans for the Mets lackluster play at home. When you have one of the best assembled teams in baseball - and one of the highest salaries - you expect more from a team. Fans don't boo when players are doing their jobs, they boo when they play with no heart. Castillo blowing that DP ball last night is a good example. Knowing how pathetic their bullpen is right now, they cannot afford to play that way and give up unearned runs. If I was there, I would have booed Castillo. They look terrible in the field and at the plate. Except for Wright, Alou, Martinez, and Degado, the bunch of them look like they already checked out for the winter. All in all, I lay the blame on Willie's overuse of the bullpen and Omar not getting us a starter over the winter. EVERYONE knew they needed one. After a long season, that fact is glaringly obvious. They had the best road record in baseball last year. I guess we had a completely different set of fans then, right?

It is assinine to blame the fans for the Mets lackluster play at home. When you have one of the best assembled teams in baseball – and one of the highest salaries – you expect more from a team. Fans don’t boo when players are doing their jobs, they boo when they play with no heart. Castillo blowing that DP ball last night is a good example. Knowing how pathetic their bullpen is right now, they cannot afford to play that way and give up unearned runs. If I was there, I would have booed Castillo. They look terrible in the field and at the plate. Except for Wright, Alou, Martinez, and Degado, the bunch of them look like they already checked out for the winter.

All in all, I lay the blame on Willie’s overuse of the bullpen and Omar not getting us a starter over the winter. EVERYONE knew they needed one. After a long season, that fact is glaringly obvious.

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