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		<title>By: anthony lapaglia pictures</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/30/hear-willies-post-game-comments/#comment-33015</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 11:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cyclone</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/30/hear-willies-post-game-comments/#comment-22145</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The September thing is glaring when you look at his tenure as Manager.  The team has quit on him for three straight years, and if they hadn&#039;t had the big lead in 06, they probably wouldn&#039;t have made the playoffs then, either.  Willie&#039;s teams always collapse in September.  He needs to go because he doesn&#039;t know how to push them beyond August.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The September thing is glaring when you look at his tenure as Manager.  The team has quit on him for three straight years, and if they hadn&#8217;t had the big lead in 06, they probably wouldn&#8217;t have made the playoffs then, either.  Willie&#8217;s teams always collapse in September.  He needs to go because he doesn&#8217;t know how to push them beyond August.</p>
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		<title>By: Lets_Go_Mets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lets_Go_Mets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willie Randolph&#039;s Managerial Record in September

2005 13-15 .464

2006 14-15 .483

2007 14-14 .500

We&#039;re improving!  Plus, he made sure to give Wilpon his precious meaningful September games!</description>
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<p>2005 13-15 .464</p>
<p>2006 14-15 .483</p>
<p>2007 14-14 .500</p>
<p>We&#8217;re improving!  Plus, he made sure to give Wilpon his precious meaningful September games!</p>
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		<title>By: mets6986</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 02:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of this arrogant SOB... please!!!   

I cannot stand his managing style... I do not know how many times his decisions (or lack of) caused the Mets a game... 

Lets get someone here other than him...  I&#039;ll even take Bobby Valentine back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of this arrogant SOB&#8230; please!!!   </p>
<p>I cannot stand his managing style&#8230; I do not know how many times his decisions (or lack of) caused the Mets a game&#8230; </p>
<p>Lets get someone here other than him&#8230;  I&#8217;ll even take Bobby Valentine back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/30/hear-willies-post-game-comments/#comment-21911</link>
		<dc:creator>jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yup.</p>
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		<title>By: tripmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/30/hear-willies-post-game-comments/#comment-21881</link>
		<dc:creator>tripmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta protect the pitching for sure - Maine and Ollie, no matter their struggles - can you imagine what their records would command on open market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta protect the pitching for sure &#8211; Maine and Ollie, no matter their struggles &#8211; can you imagine what their records would command on open market?</p>
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		<title>By: LImets2000</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/09/30/hear-willies-post-game-comments/#comment-21879</link>
		<dc:creator>LImets2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar&#039;s Bullpen moves didn&#039;t work out. Eit. Relievers are unreliable from year to year. Go around the majors: there is a shortage of quality consistent bullpen guys. 
The Pitching fell apart because the short-manned bullpen caused everyone to be overused in turn. 
Bad pitching killed the morale of the team, because hitters want to know that there&#039;s some point to swinging the bat. That&#039;s why Pedro is still amazing: not because he&#039;ll give a one run perfomance but because he &lt;b&gt; won&#039;t &lt;/b&gt; give a six run blowup.

And as for Willie&#039;s performance down the stretch, he did get some quality hitting in these last 2 weeks. But he can&#039;t regrow the torn and bruised muscles in an overworked pitcher&#039;s arm.

What Willie did wrong was overuse the guys in the pen who were good in the first half (Heilman, Feliciano and Smith), just like Joe Torre does.

But unless you were willing to pitch Schoe or Mota in the seventh during May, you shouldn&#039;t complain about Willie not doing the same to save arms. I bet if he had done that, you&#039;d scream like the Yankees fans do when Torre pitches Farnsworth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar&#8217;s Bullpen moves didn&#8217;t work out. Eit. Relievers are unreliable from year to year. Go around the majors: there is a shortage of quality consistent bullpen guys.<br />
The Pitching fell apart because the short-manned bullpen caused everyone to be overused in turn.<br />
Bad pitching killed the morale of the team, because hitters want to know that there&#8217;s some point to swinging the bat. That&#8217;s why Pedro is still amazing: not because he&#8217;ll give a one run perfomance but because he <b> won&#8217;t </b> give a six run blowup.</p>
<p>And as for Willie&#8217;s performance down the stretch, he did get some quality hitting in these last 2 weeks. But he can&#8217;t regrow the torn and bruised muscles in an overworked pitcher&#8217;s arm.</p>
<p>What Willie did wrong was overuse the guys in the pen who were good in the first half (Heilman, Feliciano and Smith), just like Joe Torre does.</p>
<p>But unless you were willing to pitch Schoe or Mota in the seventh during May, you shouldn&#8217;t complain about Willie not doing the same to save arms. I bet if he had done that, you&#8217;d scream like the Yankees fans do when Torre pitches Farnsworth.</p>
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		<title>By: GetsByBuckner415</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Willie is not gonna be fired...Wilpon would never pay him to sit home...Omar is not going anywhere either...they will both have at least one year to fix this team...I do not know what Omar will do...it looks like the only way the Mets can improve the team is through trades as the free agent class outside of A-Rod is garbage...should be an interesting offseason.

My condolences to all you fellow Met fans...if you can take any positives from this collapse...maybe from now on these players will no longer be bored during the regular season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Willie is not gonna be fired&#8230;Wilpon would never pay him to sit home&#8230;Omar is not going anywhere either&#8230;they will both have at least one year to fix this team&#8230;I do not know what Omar will do&#8230;it looks like the only way the Mets can improve the team is through trades as the free agent class outside of A-Rod is garbage&#8230;should be an interesting offseason.</p>
<p>My condolences to all you fellow Met fans&#8230;if you can take any positives from this collapse&#8230;maybe from now on these players will no longer be bored during the regular season.</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, this was indeed a debacle.

I tried to be positive as long as possible, tried to believe til the last out, and tried to find the silver lining over these final overcast weeks.  In that spirit: We have two young, very good starting pitchers; we have a franchise player who (I think) we can all agree &#039;gets it&#039; and will use this experience to build upon; we have a top player at a key position (cf); and we have a ton of money.

Good/Bad--depending on POV: Pedro, Glavine (yes, will live in infamy, but he can still be be an effective starter), Milledge, Pelfry, Gomez, Gotay, Castro, Omar (he was golden last year, not so much this year--great with the Spos, though, so I still believe).

Jose has, somehow, turned into a question mark.  He&#039;s young, of course...but he took at best a step sideways, at worst a huge step backwards (I know all his numbers and their relative value; who can question what we&#039;ve seen in his eyes and attitude?)

And then there&#039;s Willie.  I don&#039;t think he&#039;s solely responsible for this team&#039;s performance by any means, and I&#039;ve given him the benefit of the doubt right up to the moment we lost the division.  Obviously, he makes questionable tactical choices.  He also has never gotten any kind of credit from most fans for the team&#039;s success.  And he will return next year.

But I have had it with him, and it happened at the game Friday night.  David Newhan?  Jeff Conine?  Yes, these were instances in one game of 162, but I&#039;m finally convinced that his demeanor and decisions had enough effect to cost this team the division.

Of course the players must perform.  Of course Omar owns a significant portion of responsibility.

For everyone who has said this would happen, congrats: you were right, I was wrong.  

There&#039;s a lot to do this winter, and honestly there are maybe five players I would adamantly protect: Maine, Wright, Perez, Pedro, and Pelfry.  This doesn&#039;t mean I&#039;d give up on the rest, just that I&#039;d be...more accepting of their departure if it meant improvement.  And including Jose on that list sucks, and it would take a lot, but there it is.

Way to go everyone who went and cheered these guys the last 3 weeks, and to those who stayed for the last out today.

Ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this was indeed a debacle.</p>
<p>I tried to be positive as long as possible, tried to believe til the last out, and tried to find the silver lining over these final overcast weeks.  In that spirit: We have two young, very good starting pitchers; we have a franchise player who (I think) we can all agree &#8216;gets it&#8217; and will use this experience to build upon; we have a top player at a key position (cf); and we have a ton of money.</p>
<p>Good/Bad&#8211;depending on POV: Pedro, Glavine (yes, will live in infamy, but he can still be be an effective starter), Milledge, Pelfry, Gomez, Gotay, Castro, Omar (he was golden last year, not so much this year&#8211;great with the Spos, though, so I still believe).</p>
<p>Jose has, somehow, turned into a question mark.  He&#8217;s young, of course&#8230;but he took at best a step sideways, at worst a huge step backwards (I know all his numbers and their relative value; who can question what we&#8217;ve seen in his eyes and attitude?)</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s Willie.  I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s solely responsible for this team&#8217;s performance by any means, and I&#8217;ve given him the benefit of the doubt right up to the moment we lost the division.  Obviously, he makes questionable tactical choices.  He also has never gotten any kind of credit from most fans for the team&#8217;s success.  And he will return next year.</p>
<p>But I have had it with him, and it happened at the game Friday night.  David Newhan?  Jeff Conine?  Yes, these were instances in one game of 162, but I&#8217;m finally convinced that his demeanor and decisions had enough effect to cost this team the division.</p>
<p>Of course the players must perform.  Of course Omar owns a significant portion of responsibility.</p>
<p>For everyone who has said this would happen, congrats: you were right, I was wrong.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot to do this winter, and honestly there are maybe five players I would adamantly protect: Maine, Wright, Perez, Pedro, and Pelfry.  This doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;d give up on the rest, just that I&#8217;d be&#8230;more accepting of their departure if it meant improvement.  And including Jose on that list sucks, and it would take a lot, but there it is.</p>
<p>Way to go everyone who went and cheered these guys the last 3 weeks, and to those who stayed for the last out today.</p>
<p>Ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: tripmaster</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeez, all the 20/20 hindsight here. We fielded an imperfect team, like everyone else. The blame lies squarely on the players&#039; shoulders. 

Omar&#039;s year wasnt as good as 2006. So what? You compete with what you have. If Omar was right 100% of the time, he&#039;d be a god, not a solid baseball exec.

People wanna  hang Wille now, but he&#039;s put together some solid years, winning records.

I won&#039;t bash Willie. I won&#039;t bash Omar. They took chances, they didnt come out as well as they could have.

Everyone was down on Alou, and he was a stud. So many &#039;fans&#039; here have long term memories of a goldfish. 

Athletes are human, they arent robots. They tried, they blew it. Think about it all winter, make better calls. and don&#039;t - this means you Jose - rely on your talent, because Jeter has a fraction of your skills, but twice your cold-blooded assassin instincts.

I will point the fingers at people like Reyes who let those little things slip. I dont think he cant turn it around, but he&#039;s no longer in the discussion for best shortstop in NYC much less in MLB.

I am still a MET FAN. They&#039;re our team, and we&#039;ll be back in the spring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeez, all the 20/20 hindsight here. We fielded an imperfect team, like everyone else. The blame lies squarely on the players&#8217; shoulders. </p>
<p>Omar&#8217;s year wasnt as good as 2006. So what? You compete with what you have. If Omar was right 100% of the time, he&#8217;d be a god, not a solid baseball exec.</p>
<p>People wanna  hang Wille now, but he&#8217;s put together some solid years, winning records.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t bash Willie. I won&#8217;t bash Omar. They took chances, they didnt come out as well as they could have.</p>
<p>Everyone was down on Alou, and he was a stud. So many &#8216;fans&#8217; here have long term memories of a goldfish. </p>
<p>Athletes are human, they arent robots. They tried, they blew it. Think about it all winter, make better calls. and don&#8217;t &#8211; this means you Jose &#8211; rely on your talent, because Jeter has a fraction of your skills, but twice your cold-blooded assassin instincts.</p>
<p>I will point the fingers at people like Reyes who let those little things slip. I dont think he cant turn it around, but he&#8217;s no longer in the discussion for best shortstop in NYC much less in MLB.</p>
<p>I am still a MET FAN. They&#8217;re our team, and we&#8217;ll be back in the spring.</p>
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