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	<title>Comments on: Health: Plans for El Duque, Maine and Beltran</title>
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		<title>By: paMetsfan</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-24302</link>
		<dc:creator>paMetsfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m confused here...This is the first that I have heard that maine has a bad hip....let alone that it may need sugery...Does anyone know what the problem with his hip is???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused here&#8230;This is the first that I have heard that maine has a bad hip&#8230;.let alone that it may need sugery&#8230;Does anyone know what the problem with his hip is???</p>
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		<title>By: mjmags</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23887</link>
		<dc:creator>mjmags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starting in LF next year and 1B in 2009-ADAM DUNN</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starting in LF next year and 1B in 2009-ADAM DUNN</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23814</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Dontrelle can be had cheaply enough, sure.  He&#039;s not the pitcher he used to be, but he still has a  lot of talent.  He has obvious mechanical problems - flying open way too soon - that are leading to major control problems.  An elite pitching coach (whether that&#039;s Peterson or someone else) should be able to help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Dontrelle can be had cheaply enough, sure.  He&#8217;s not the pitcher he used to be, but he still has a  lot of talent.  He has obvious mechanical problems &#8211; flying open way too soon &#8211; that are leading to major control problems.  An elite pitching coach (whether that&#8217;s Peterson or someone else) should be able to help.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23802</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*&quot;either DL&#039;d or hurt&quot;.  Duh.

Make that &quot;struggling or hurt&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*&#8221;either DL&#8217;d or hurt&#8221;.  Duh.</p>
<p>Make that &#8220;struggling or hurt&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23795</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m OK with Alou.  I&#039;d ask him to work out at 1B in spring training, with the idea that he could play some LF and also spell Delgado (he will be back, for financial reasons if nothing else) against tough lefties.  Ideally, I&#039;d love to see him play about 80 games.  Any more than that would mean one of our other OFs was either DL&#039;d or hurt.  Then, in the World Series (and yes, any plan for &#039;08  need to consider us making the WS or else it&#039;s not a plan worth having) he would be a great DH in games at the AL park.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m OK with Alou.  I&#8217;d ask him to work out at 1B in spring training, with the idea that he could play some LF and also spell Delgado (he will be back, for financial reasons if nothing else) against tough lefties.  Ideally, I&#8217;d love to see him play about 80 games.  Any more than that would mean one of our other OFs was either DL&#8217;d or hurt.  Then, in the World Series (and yes, any plan for &#8217;08  need to consider us making the WS or else it&#8217;s not a plan worth having) he would be a great DH in games at the AL park.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23764</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, if he is &quot;hurt more than others&quot;, why does he play more games than almost everyone else who plays the position?

By that logic, Cal Ripken Jr. must have had the lowest pain tolerance in baseball history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, if he is &#8220;hurt more than others&#8221;, why does he play more games than almost everyone else who plays the position?</p>
<p>By that logic, Cal Ripken Jr. must have had the lowest pain tolerance in baseball history.</p>
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		<title>By: The Stache</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23757</link>
		<dc:creator>The Stache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Younger and healthier how? 

How many teams want our crap prospects? 

Our A prospects are B prospects on other teams. 

Alou is an insurance plan and Green wouldn&#039;t be bad as a bench player/ backup at 1b. 

7.5 million is not so bad. It is a lil much. The only way I don&#039;t sign Alou to split time with Gomez or another is if the Mets can land a nice power bat corner OF to solidify the middle of the lineup left for dead while delgado yucked it up and alou was injured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Younger and healthier how? </p>
<p>How many teams want our crap prospects? </p>
<p>Our A prospects are B prospects on other teams. </p>
<p>Alou is an insurance plan and Green wouldn&#8217;t be bad as a bench player/ backup at 1b. </p>
<p>7.5 million is not so bad. It is a lil much. The only way I don&#8217;t sign Alou to split time with Gomez or another is if the Mets can land a nice power bat corner OF to solidify the middle of the lineup left for dead while delgado yucked it up and alou was injured.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know the haters don&#039;t want to be confused with facts, but let me try this one more time...

- if Beltran were really the player you describe, he would play fewer games than most CFs.

- He doesn&#039;t.  He plays about 145 games a year on average, making him one of the most durable CFs in all of baseball.

- The CFs the haters love to hold up as icons of toughness   - Cameron, Rowand, Hunter - all play fewer games than Beltran... year after year after year.

- The only CFs I have found who have played more games than Beltran over the past 5 seasons are Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones.

- Oddly enough, neither of them are considered &quot;tough&quot; either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know the haters don&#8217;t want to be confused with facts, but let me try this one more time&#8230;</p>
<p>- if Beltran were really the player you describe, he would play fewer games than most CFs.</p>
<p>- He doesn&#8217;t.  He plays about 145 games a year on average, making him one of the most durable CFs in all of baseball.</p>
<p>- The CFs the haters love to hold up as icons of toughness   &#8211; Cameron, Rowand, Hunter &#8211; all play fewer games than Beltran&#8230; year after year after year.</p>
<p>- The only CFs I have found who have played more games than Beltran over the past 5 seasons are Juan Pierre and Andruw Jones.</p>
<p>- Oddly enough, neither of them are considered &#8220;tough&#8221; either.</p>
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		<title>By: yagottabelieve</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23739</link>
		<dc:creator>yagottabelieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duque in 2008 &gt; Oliver in 2006 and much much &gt; Sele in 2007.  Great long man from the pen (lots of rest, fewer IP, better chance to stay healthy) and spot starter when needed.  $6M is normally more than you pay for that,  but this is no ordinary swing man either.  If we had one  with those kinds of skills this year, we would have won the division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duque in 2008 &gt; Oliver in 2006 and much much &gt; Sele in 2007.  Great long man from the pen (lots of rest, fewer IP, better chance to stay healthy) and spot starter when needed.  $6M is normally more than you pay for that,  but this is no ordinary swing man either.  If we had one  with those kinds of skills this year, we would have won the division.</p>
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		<title>By: VCarver</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/health-plans-for-el-duque-maine-and-beltran/#comment-23735</link>
		<dc:creator>VCarver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want Alou back, or Green. Or at most one back for a strictly platoon/bench situation which they understand beforehand. But then the club would have to decline Alou&#039;s option and re-negotiate because 7.5 million for a part time LFer is too much. 

The team needs to get younger and healthier. And if Omar doesn&#039;t recognize this then his job will be in jeopardy a year from now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want Alou back, or Green. Or at most one back for a strictly platoon/bench situation which they understand beforehand. But then the club would have to decline Alou&#8217;s option and re-negotiate because 7.5 million for a part time LFer is too much. </p>
<p>The team needs to get younger and healthier. And if Omar doesn&#8217;t recognize this then his job will be in jeopardy a year from now.</p>
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