Comments on: News: Schoeneweis Accused of Steroid Use http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:12:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: metstoday.com http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-24000 metstoday.com Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:48:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-24000 Re: Minaya offering him a contract: You're assuming that Schoeneweis took steroids in the years after he received the shipments. According to the report, he received the dope in 2003 and 2004. I highly doubt Omar spent $12M on The Show based on the 5.59 ERA he posted in 2004. Re: Minaya offering him a contract:

You’re assuming that Schoeneweis took steroids in the years after he received the shipments. According to the report, he received the dope in 2003 and 2004.

I highly doubt Omar spent $12M on The Show based on the 5.59 ERA he posted in 2004.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23767 VCarver Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:52:10 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23767 No. Unfortunately not. He is accused of having purchased it in the past. Not this year. Contracts do not cover past behavior. No. Unfortunately not. He is accused of having purchased it in the past. Not this year. Contracts do not cover past behavior.

]]> By: Hit The Weights Zeile http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23760 Hit The Weights Zeile Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:50:22 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23760 ive always felt the season is too long, basketball and hockey (while alot more atheletics are involved are HALF the length of baseball)....I dont see a reason why you couldnt chop off about 20 games from the season and just spread them out over the season as days off. ive always felt the season is too long, basketball and hockey (while alot more atheletics are involved are HALF the length of baseball)….I dont see a reason why you couldnt chop off about 20 games from the season and just spread them out over the season as days off.

]]> By: Ken Dynamo http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23759 Ken Dynamo Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:49:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23759 yes good, void that stupid contract. do and then wait for him to sue later. dump him and several other of the turds in the bullpen and start fresh. yes good, void that stupid contract. do and then wait for him to sue later. dump him and several other of the turds in the bullpen and start fresh.

]]> By: stewart0329 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23716 stewart0329 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:20:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23716 Another Omar signing is accused of Steroids how amazing. And although Willie is taking the heat for alot of the garbage that happened to this team Omar seems to be getting a pass. I think with Omar's remarks this morning in the paper regarding Mileadge and Reyes behavior where Omar is quoted as saying "They are young and just showing their enthusiasm". If Omar does not understand that the behavior that the players exhibit on the field is a problem, then I truly believe that the problem with the Mets is not Willie but Omar. These are guys making Millions of dollars acting like FOOLS. You don't see other professional ballplayers behaving this way. And I truly believe Omar is undercutting Willies authority. See how he made him fire Rick Downs and put Ricky Henderson in there. You tell me if I am off base Another Omar signing is accused of Steroids how amazing. And although Willie is taking the heat for alot of the garbage that happened to this team Omar seems to be getting a pass. I think with Omar’s remarks this morning in the paper regarding Mileadge and Reyes behavior where Omar is quoted as saying “They are young and just showing their enthusiasm”. If Omar does not understand that the behavior that the players exhibit on the field is a problem, then I truly believe that the problem with the Mets is not Willie but Omar. These are guys making Millions of dollars acting like FOOLS. You don’t see other professional ballplayers behaving this way. And I truly believe Omar is undercutting Willies authority. See how he made him fire Rick Downs and put Ricky Henderson in there. You tell me if I am off base

]]> By: carolinametfan http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23713 carolinametfan Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:14:48 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23713 I agree with Metlomaniac. I think there will be a lot more stories like this as the season draws to an end, My opinion is that everyone knew the risks(owners, players, trainers). It was culturally embedded into the game even though most players didn't do it. And once Congress got involved and Baseball had to strengthen its policies, the house of cards built by steroids came tumbling down. Right now, the owners are left holding the bag because players like Mota and Schoenweis wouldn't have been paid the kind of contracts that Miinaya offered if not for their drug-altered performance in their pre-Met years. In a small way, this contributed to the pitching staff meltdown of 2007. Minaya gambled and loss on these players who could not rise to the occasion playing "clean." I agree with Metlomaniac. I think there will be a lot more stories like this as the season draws to an end, My opinion is that everyone knew the risks(owners, players, trainers). It was culturally embedded into the game even though most players didn’t do it. And once Congress got involved and Baseball had to strengthen its policies, the house of cards built by steroids came tumbling down. Right now, the owners are left holding the bag because players like Mota and Schoenweis wouldn’t have been paid the kind of contracts that Miinaya offered if not for their drug-altered performance in their pre-Met years. In a small way, this contributed to the pitching staff meltdown of 2007. Minaya gambled and loss on these players who could not rise to the occasion playing “clean.”

]]> By: metstoday.com http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23706 metstoday.com Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:08:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23706 Seriously Matt ... why is this such a shocker to you and Buster? Didn't you guys read Ball Four ? Seriously Matt … why is this such a shocker to you and Buster? Didn’t you guys read Ball Four ?

]]> By: Metlomaniac http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23704 Metlomaniac Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:06:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23704 I hate that "steroids weren't illegal in baseball" BS. Maybe they weren't, but they <i>were</I> illegal everywhere else. Should MLB have to make a rule stating that murdering your opponent is illegal? It's a ridiculous argument. If steroid are illegal on the street, they're illegal in ballparks, too. I hate that “steroids weren’t illegal in baseball” BS. Maybe they weren’t, but they were illegal everywhere else. Should MLB have to make a rule stating that murdering your opponent is illegal? It’s a ridiculous argument. If steroid are illegal on the street, they’re illegal in ballparks, too.

]]> By: tooth http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23700 tooth Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:04:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23700 As much as I dislike Schoeneweis as a baseball player, the accusation here is being accredited to "an Internet report". I think everyone needs to allow this story to develop before drawing final conclusions As much as I dislike Schoeneweis as a baseball player, the accusation here is being accredited to “an Internet report”. I think everyone needs to allow this story to develop before drawing final conclusions

]]> By: BigHangWithEm http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23698 BigHangWithEm Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:03:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/02/news-schoeneweis-accused-of-steroid-use/#comment-23698 i don't condone sports bigamy, or i guess in this case it's more sports adultry, but man, I was thinking the same thing for a few hours after walking out of Shea on Sunday. The Jankos would never do this to their fans, 2004 notwithstanding. And they would certainly not let Willie linger for this long or even publicly consider bringing him back. They would make him pay with his job instantly. A message needs to be sent to the players that this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, sadly I think it will be buisness as usual at Shea. Just kick back and keep counting the gate reciepts from the 3.9 Million suckers that supported this crap. i don’t condone sports bigamy, or i guess in this case it’s more sports adultry, but man, I was thinking the same thing for a few hours after walking out of Shea on Sunday.

The Jankos would never do this to their fans, 2004 notwithstanding. And they would certainly not let Willie linger for this long or even publicly consider bringing him back. They would make him pay with his job instantly. A message needs to be sent to the players that this is TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, sadly I think it will be buisness as usual at Shea. Just kick back and keep counting the gate reciepts from the 3.9 Million suckers that supported this crap.

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