Comments on: Buzz: Johan Santana, No-Trade Clause http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Hellbelly http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24965 Hellbelly Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:20:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24965 Stache....repeat after me.....the trade of reyes is predicated on being able to sign Santana. No sign no trade. If you could sign Santana you do that trade immediately. If not sooner. Stache….repeat after me…..the trade of reyes is predicated on being able to sign Santana. No sign no trade. If you could sign Santana you do that trade immediately.

If not sooner.

]]> By: Hellbelly http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24963 Hellbelly Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:18:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24963 Did you not watch the Mets in September? They were scoring 7-8 runs a game (the last Friday and Sunday notwithstanding) with ZERO help from Reyes. Did you not watch the Mets in September? They were scoring 7-8 runs a game (the last Friday and Sunday notwithstanding) with ZERO help from Reyes.

]]> By: Hellbelly http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24955 Hellbelly Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:14:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24955 Because: A) other interested parties (Dodgers; Diamondbacks and maybe the evil empire) have better prospects to give up; and B) the Twins saw what happened to the Expos post-Martinez and won't allow this chit to be sold at below market costs. Can I repeat for the 100th time. My willingness to give up Reyes is predicated on being given the time to sign Santana within a certain time-slot post-deal. A deal and sign is not unheard of. Because:

A) other interested parties (Dodgers; Diamondbacks and maybe the evil empire) have better prospects to give up; and

B) the Twins saw what happened to the Expos post-Martinez and won’t allow this chit to be sold at below market costs.

Can I repeat for the 100th time. My willingness to give up Reyes is predicated on being given the time to sign Santana within a certain time-slot post-deal. A deal and sign is not unheard of.

]]> By: icedrake523 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24894 icedrake523 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:26:49 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24894 No. He's eligible for arbitration. The Mets usually avoid it by offering the players new deals. No. He’s eligible for arbitration. The Mets usually avoid it by offering the players new deals.

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24883 BSMITTYFDNY Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:22:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24883 Well thought out? Except for the fact that Heilman is a free agent. Well thought out? Except for the fact that Heilman is a free agent.

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24877 BSMITTYFDNY Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:19:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24877 The Yankees will not get Santana. He wants to leave the AL. Mike and the Mad Puppy were saying that with the Yanks now having Hughes and Joba they would more likely stay away from a bidding war on Santana especially if they break the bank to keep ARod. Sounds logical. The Mets are a perfect fit for Santana and have the money to get him. Whatever it takes Omar and if you get him I promise to buy a "In Omar We Trust" t-shirt from this site! The Yankees will not get Santana. He wants to leave the AL. Mike and the Mad Puppy were saying that with the Yanks now having Hughes and Joba they would more likely stay away from a bidding war on Santana especially if they break the bank to keep ARod. Sounds logical. The Mets are a perfect fit for Santana and have the money to get him. Whatever it takes Omar and if you get him I promise to buy a “In Omar We Trust” t-shirt from this site!

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24862 BSMITTYFDNY Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:07:17 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24862 Santana is unreplacable while Reyes is. Love Reyes and his speed and talent but Santana in the NL in a pitchers park gives me wood right now. I would think Omar would only trade Reyes if we get a window to lock Santana up in a long term deal. And if that happens it must be done. I dont think Freddie "Coupons" would pony up the dough to sign Santana and ARod both though. Steinbrenner would and that is the difference between our ownerships. If Wilpon signed a check for Santana and ARod I would never criticize him again. Imagine having the best pitcher and the best position player in baseball on the Mets! My God! Santana is unreplacable while Reyes is. Love Reyes and his speed and talent but Santana in the NL in a pitchers park gives me wood right now. I would think Omar would only trade Reyes if we get a window to lock Santana up in a long term deal. And if that happens it must be done. I dont think Freddie “Coupons” would pony up the dough to sign Santana and ARod both though. Steinbrenner would and that is the difference between our ownerships. If Wilpon signed a check for Santana and ARod I would never criticize him again. Imagine having the best pitcher and the best position player in baseball on the Mets! My God!

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24854 gomets6091 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:01:43 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24854 wow....that's pretty well thought out, and actually a really good proposal. I never really considered getting a third team involved, but that does seem to be the best way to get big deals like this done. Hopefully the Mets can work something like this out. wow….that’s pretty well thought out, and actually a really good proposal. I never really considered getting a third team involved, but that does seem to be the best way to get big deals like this done. Hopefully the Mets can work something like this out.

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24851 gomets6091 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:59:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24851 you really don't think we could get ARod? He grew up a Mets fan, and wanted to play for them 6 years ago. Phillips screwed that up, so he went to Texas where he was miserable playing for a losing team. Then he went to the Yankees, where he was miserable playing for a winning team whose fans hated him. You think that just because the fans came around this year, that all is forgiven in ARods mind? I bet my bottom dollar that he hates the Yankees, and hates their fans. He probably remembers every little insult they've hurled his way for 4 seasons, while he was winning an MVP award, and generally just being the best player on the team. So now he has a ridiculous walk year, runs away with the MVP award...you don't think he'd love to just stick it to the Yankees and their fans this offseason by signing with the team he's always wanted to play for? One big, final F-U to the NY Yankees organization. Well, actually, hopefully, the final F-U would be him winning the World Series MVP, but I'm getting ahead of myself. you really don’t think we could get ARod? He grew up a Mets fan, and wanted to play for them 6 years ago. Phillips screwed that up, so he went to Texas where he was miserable playing for a losing team. Then he went to the Yankees, where he was miserable playing for a winning team whose fans hated him. You think that just because the fans came around this year, that all is forgiven in ARods mind? I bet my bottom dollar that he hates the Yankees, and hates their fans. He probably remembers every little insult they’ve hurled his way for 4 seasons, while he was winning an MVP award, and generally just being the best player on the team. So now he has a ridiculous walk year, runs away with the MVP award…you don’t think he’d love to just stick it to the Yankees and their fans this offseason by signing with the team he’s always wanted to play for? One big, final F-U to the NY Yankees organization. Well, actually, hopefully, the final F-U would be him winning the World Series MVP, but I’m getting ahead of myself.

]]> By: gomets6091 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24844 gomets6091 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:53:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/03/buzz-johan-santana-no-trade-clause/#comment-24844 2 picks in baseball is practically useless. This isn't the NFL or the NBA....first round picks make it to the majors about half the time, and become starts less than 10% of the time. So you think they'd pass up an all-star shortstop or a group of 3-4 close to Major League ready prospects for the 50/50 chance that they might possibly draft a guy who will make it to the Major Leagues in 4-5 years? 2 picks in baseball is practically useless. This isn’t the NFL or the NBA….first round picks make it to the majors about half the time, and become starts less than 10% of the time. So you think they’d pass up an all-star shortstop or a group of 3-4 close to Major League ready prospects for the 50/50 chance that they might possibly draft a guy who will make it to the Major Leagues in 4-5 years?

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