Comments on: Read: 10 Improvements for the Mets http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: TilMetsDoUsPart http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-27433 TilMetsDoUsPart Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:25:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-27433 Dunn is very proficient at getting on base and driving in runs. He is actually rather quick, and is pretty good with the glove. He was a recruit at UTexas as a QB. He's an athlete. did I mention that he's 28? Anyway should we sign Dunn we could put him at First and Alou in left, while platooning Milledge and Chavez in right. Dunn is very proficient at getting on base and driving in runs. He is actually rather quick, and is pretty good with the glove. He was a recruit at UTexas as a QB. He’s an athlete. did I mention that he’s 28?

Anyway should we sign Dunn we could put him at First and Alou in left, while platooning Milledge and Chavez in right.

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the youngest catcher in teh free agency who can actually start is Yorvit Torrealba, age 30. I’d take Lo Duca over him.

Alou is worth $7.5 Million for a year. He is a great performer as well and wont ask for anything more than a year.

The only better guy for the job in my opinion is Adam Dunn, who will cost A LOT. He would probably end up being a first baseman for us anyway.

]]> By: 4JoeOrsulak http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26940 4JoeOrsulak Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:48:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26940 And the Yanks got where they got with Bernie Williams and Jeter and Rivera and Pettite and Posada and getting the right free agents (Martinez, O'Niel) behind them. We are not up to that point yet. We need the base first. And the Yanks got where they got with Bernie Williams and Jeter and Rivera and Pettite and Posada and getting the right free agents (Martinez, O’Niel) behind them. We are not up to that point yet. We need the base first.

]]> By: 4JoeOrsulak http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26939 4JoeOrsulak Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:45:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26939 2009 Pitching Free Agents A.J. Burnett TOR Rich Harden * OAK JOHN LACKEY * LAA JAKE PEAVY * SD BRAD PENNY * LAD MARK PRYOR CHC C.C. SABATHIA CLE JOHAN SANTANA MIN BEN SHEETS MIL JOHN SMOLTZ* ATL There is every reason to think that Lastings is going to be GOOD, and Gomez has a huge upside. I'd give Pelfrey and Humber more of a chance and sign one of these guys in '09. (Delgado and Teixeira are both FA in '09 also) Thus, by '09, my hope is to have Tex and any one of the above pitchers (save for Smoltz) in addition to our other high priced FA (Beltran) and fill the other holes with our guys. That seems reasonable. 2009 Pitching Free Agents

A.J. Burnett TOR
Rich Harden * OAK
JOHN LACKEY * LAA
JAKE PEAVY * SD
BRAD PENNY * LAD
MARK PRYOR CHC
C.C. SABATHIA CLE
JOHAN SANTANA MIN
BEN SHEETS MIL
JOHN SMOLTZ* ATL

There is every reason to think that Lastings is going to be GOOD, and Gomez has a huge upside. I’d give Pelfrey and Humber more of a chance and sign one of these guys in ’09.

(Delgado and Teixeira are both FA in ’09 also)

Thus, by ’09, my hope is to have Tex and any one of the above pitchers (save for Smoltz) in addition to our other high priced FA (Beltran) and fill the other holes with our guys. That seems reasonable.

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26926 BSMITTYFDNY Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:35:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26926 Who are these 10 All Star Pitchers you claim will be available and are any of them as good as Santana? Also, of all of our prospects who do you think will realy develop into a player of the same caliber as Santana? If you can I hope you are right but I doubt it. Its not about getting all all stars, I agree, but rather getting the right players that mix well. The Yankees have made the playoffs every year for 13 years and won the division 12 of those years with 4 rings. I hope the Mets can have that success and I think that begins with getting an ace or two like Santana even if it means trading away guys like Gomez and Milledge who may turn out to be the next Alex Ochoa. Who are these 10 All Star Pitchers you claim will be available and are any of them as good as Santana? Also, of all of our prospects who do you think will realy develop into a player of the same caliber as Santana? If you can I hope you are right but I doubt it. Its not about getting all all stars, I agree, but rather getting the right players that mix well. The Yankees have made the playoffs every year for 13 years and won the division 12 of those years with 4 rings. I hope the Mets can have that success and I think that begins with getting an ace or two like Santana even if it means trading away guys like Gomez and Milledge who may turn out to be the next Alex Ochoa.

]]> By: 4JoeOrsulak http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26924 4JoeOrsulak Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:03:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26924 No. You don't trade away your entire farm for Santana even when all other considerations are equal. You DEFINITELY do not do so when Santana AND LIKE 10 OTHER ALL-STAR PITCHERS will be free agents in '09. And you don't play fantasy GM putting together teams of high-priced all stars for all your prospects. That is a very expensive way to finish 2nd, as the Yankees might have learned this year. There are several reasons why this is the case. Youth gives your team flexibility and identity. It costs less. It gives you something to build around. It allows you to get that one piece of the puzzle you really need; like a Santana when he comes around. No.

You don’t trade away your entire farm for Santana even when all other considerations are equal.

You DEFINITELY do not do so when Santana AND LIKE 10 OTHER ALL-STAR PITCHERS will be free agents in ’09.

And you don’t play fantasy GM putting together teams of high-priced all stars for all your prospects. That is a very expensive way to finish 2nd, as the Yankees might have learned this year. There are several reasons why this is the case. Youth gives your team flexibility and identity. It costs less. It gives you something to build around. It allows you to get that one piece of the puzzle you really need; like a Santana when he comes around.

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26886 BSMITTYFDNY Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:31:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26886 No we are not the only team out there but we can at least be aggresive and try to make good moves. When the Yankees want a player nothing stands in their way of getting him. Why cant we be more like them? We have our own network now and a new ballpark coming so we cant let the owners cry poverty. With the prices we pay we are allowed to expect them to get the players we want regardless of cost. Whats wrong with wanting Santana? I agree other teams will try to get him but we should make our best attempt. If we dont get him then nothing should stop us from signing him the following year as a free agent. Money should not be a factor when it comes to the best pitcher in the game. I will not stop posting about Santana until either we trade for him or another team does. Sorry but I dont think it is asking for much. No we are not the only team out there but we can at least be aggresive and try to make good moves. When the Yankees want a player nothing stands in their way of getting him. Why cant we be more like them? We have our own network now and a new ballpark coming so we cant let the owners cry poverty. With the prices we pay we are allowed to expect them to get the players we want regardless of cost. Whats wrong with wanting Santana? I agree other teams will try to get him but we should make our best attempt. If we dont get him then nothing should stop us from signing him the following year as a free agent. Money should not be a factor when it comes to the best pitcher in the game. I will not stop posting about Santana until either we trade for him or another team does. Sorry but I dont think it is asking for much.

]]> By: robmenna http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26878 robmenna Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:07:44 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26878 Mets wish List: 1) Trade for Santana 2) Sign Arod 3) Resurrect Ted Willaims I love how everyone thinks that the Mets are the only team in the majors that can just go out and get players. THERE ARE 29 OTHER TEAMS OUT THERE! Mets wish List:

1) Trade for Santana

2) Sign Arod

3) Resurrect Ted Willaims

I love how everyone thinks that the Mets are the only team in the majors that can just go out and get players. THERE ARE 29 OTHER TEAMS OUT THERE!

]]> By: Krusty The Klown http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26860 Krusty The Klown Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:26:56 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26860 he batted like 260 with 40 hrs 100 rbis he'd be a much much better upgrade over delgado. dunn is only 28 and still in his prime. he batted like 260 with 40 hrs 100 rbis he’d be a much much better upgrade over delgado. dunn is only 28 and still in his prime.

]]> By: BSMITTYFDNY http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26859 BSMITTYFDNY Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:25:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/09/read-10-improvements-for-the-mets/#comment-26859 I sense the sarcasm. Why is getting Santana in a trade, Cordero in a trade, and signing Linebrink and Riske such a crazy idea? It is very feesible. I didnt ask for ARod, Peavy, KRod, etc. How can you compare the two ideas? What I suggested can be done. *Heilman, Milledge, Pelfrey, and F. Martinez for Santana *Gomez and Mulvey for Cordero *2 yrs at 4.5 for Riske *3 yrs at 5 per for Linebrink *1 yr at 6mil for Livan Hernandez as a fifth starter *Resign Castillo for 2nd base with Gotay as back-up *Bring Alou back *Bring LoDuca back *Sign Rowand Line-up= Reyes Castillo Wright Beltran Alou Delgado Rowand LoDuca Pitcher Starters= Santana Maine Perez Pedro Hernandez/El Duque Bullpen= Wagner Cordero Linebrink Riske Feliciano The "Show" Joe Smith Sosa (longman) Bench= Gotay Endy Chavez Marlon Anderson Ramon Castro Carp (need Back-up 1rst baseman) All very feesible moves. Offense gets some tweaking, bench solid, starting rotation has ace it needs and inning eaters, and bullpen significantly improved and solid. Rowand and LoDuca give the clubhouse leadership and hardnosed play. I sense the sarcasm. Why is getting Santana in a trade, Cordero in a trade, and signing Linebrink and Riske such a crazy idea? It is very feesible. I didnt ask for ARod, Peavy, KRod, etc. How can you compare the two ideas? What I suggested can be done.
*Heilman, Milledge, Pelfrey, and F. Martinez for Santana
*Gomez and Mulvey for Cordero
*2 yrs at 4.5 for Riske
*3 yrs at 5 per for Linebrink
*1 yr at 6mil for Livan Hernandez as a fifth starter
*Resign Castillo for 2nd base with Gotay as back-up
*Bring Alou back
*Bring LoDuca back
*Sign Rowand

Line-up=
Reyes
Castillo
Wright
Beltran
Alou
Delgado
Rowand
LoDuca
Pitcher

Starters=
Santana
Maine
Perez
Pedro
Hernandez/El Duque

Bullpen=
Wagner
Cordero
Linebrink
Riske
Feliciano
The “Show”
Joe Smith
Sosa (longman)

Bench=
Gotay
Endy Chavez
Marlon Anderson
Ramon Castro
Carp (need Back-up 1rst baseman)

All very feesible moves. Offense gets some tweaking, bench solid, starting rotation has ace it needs and inning eaters, and bullpen significantly improved and solid.
Rowand and LoDuca give the clubhouse leadership and hardnosed play.

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