Comments on: Read: Free-Agent Values http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 4JoeOrsulak http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28844 4JoeOrsulak Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:23:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28844 Pedro's contract is gone in 09; Delgado is gone in '09, Duque and Mota gone in '09, LoDuca is hoefully gone now, Glavine gone and Alou wil be gone. That's why we will be able to get both Tex and Santana with a little luck and some intelligence (and if the regulations allow it. Under certain conditions, no team can sign more than 1 perennial All-Star free agent.) Pedro’s contract is gone in 09; Delgado is gone in ’09, Duque and Mota gone in ’09, LoDuca is hoefully gone now, Glavine gone and Alou wil be gone. That’s why we will be able to get both Tex and Santana with a little luck and some intelligence (and if the regulations allow it. Under certain conditions, no team can sign more than 1 perennial All-Star free agent.)

]]> By: hot stove chef http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28652 hot stove chef Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:56:09 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28652 Players have down years. It happens. Before we ride Carlos out of here, let's take a deep breath and give the guy another chance. Players have down years. It happens.

Before we ride Carlos out of here, let’s take a deep breath and give the guy another chance.

]]> By: The Stache http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28645 The Stache Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:36:32 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28645 I completely agree regarding the RBI comment. Dunn would solidify the middle of the lineup and might even push Delgado down to your 7 hitter. How sick of a lineup is that? There is no reason why the Mets shouldn't be able to sign a Dunn should he be available AND get some pitching help. I completely agree regarding the RBI comment. Dunn would solidify the middle of the lineup and might even push Delgado down to your 7 hitter. How sick of a lineup is that?

There is no reason why the Mets shouldn’t be able to sign a Dunn should he be available AND get some pitching help.

]]> By: The Stache http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28642 The Stache Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:29:41 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28642 and to be fair to Delgado's 25 90 numbers. Think of how many opportunties Delgado came up small In RBI situations. With a lineup that is potent as the Mets, with a .270 batting average he would have broken 110 RBIs perhaps or more. The down year for a great player argument is what I chalk it up to. He had a terrible year, and his HR or his RBI will not make a lick of difference to me because the writing is on the wall. He has no plate discipline anymore and is compensating for a slow bat by pulling off the ball with his right leg. . If he does something that can change that in the offseason, expect a rebound year. If he doesn't expect Delgado to be even worse than 2007. Dunn in a the Mets lineup would put him at over 120 RBI. Of course, this is just my opinion, and either way Dunn won't be in a Mets uniform come April anyway. and to be fair to Delgado’s 25 90 numbers. Think of how many opportunties Delgado came up small In RBI situations. With a lineup that is potent as the Mets, with a .270 batting average he would have broken 110 RBIs perhaps or more.

The down year for a great player argument is what I chalk it up to. He had a terrible year, and his HR or his RBI will not make a lick of difference to me because the writing is on the wall.

He has no plate discipline anymore and is compensating for a slow bat by pulling off the ball with his right leg. . If he does something that can change that in the offseason, expect a rebound year. If he doesn’t expect Delgado to be even worse than 2007. Dunn in a the Mets lineup would put him at over 120 RBI. Of course, this is just my opinion, and either way Dunn won’t be in a Mets uniform come April anyway.

]]> By: dannyb http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28598 dannyb Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:02:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28598 Bobby V, That was hilarious. Very true too. I would rather take LoDuca back for one year with a club option. I hear so much about this kid Francisco Pena (Tony Pena's 18-yr old son) that's in our farm system. They say he is Tony Pena, with a bat. Give him one or two more years to get himself ready, then in 2010 you can hand over the full time reigns and put him in the 8-hole. Metsftw, RBI is a function of people getting on base in front of you, but it's also a function of 2-out hits, and hits with RISP. Delgado over his career has been an RBI machine. Don't know how many people would agree with your assessment of it worthless. Bobby V,
That was hilarious. Very true too. I would rather take LoDuca back for one year with a club option. I hear so much about this kid Francisco Pena (Tony Pena’s 18-yr old son) that’s in our farm system. They say he is Tony Pena, with a bat. Give him one or two more years to get himself ready, then in 2010 you can hand over the full time reigns and put him in the 8-hole.

Metsftw,
RBI is a function of people getting on base in front of you, but it’s also a function of 2-out hits, and hits with RISP. Delgado over his career has been an RBI machine. Don’t know how many people would agree with your assessment of it worthless.

]]> By: dannyb http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28596 dannyb Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:55:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28596 Question...how did it work out for the Mets the last time they had 2 CF's in the outfield? I would take Delgado on my team over Torii Hunter any day of the week. Let's not forget, Hunter is no spring chicken either. 31? For the kind of money he is going to demand, not worth it in my opinion. I understand looking at the numbers and trends, because they usually tell the story over a 162 game season. But, I think Delgado has way too much pride and ability to not bounce back. I think we're looking at 35+ homers out of the 5 or 6 hole. You won't sign up for that? Leave Adam Dunn with Dusty Baker in Cincy. Question…how did it work out for the Mets the last time they had 2 CF’s in the outfield?

I would take Delgado on my team over Torii Hunter any day of the week. Let’s not forget, Hunter is no spring chicken either. 31? For the kind of money he is going to demand, not worth it in my opinion.

I understand looking at the numbers and trends, because they usually tell the story over a 162 game season. But, I think Delgado has way too much pride and ability to not bounce back. I think we’re looking at 35+ homers out of the 5 or 6 hole. You won’t sign up for that?

Leave Adam Dunn with Dusty Baker in Cincy.

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28538 metsftw Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:56:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28538 i wish people would do research before spouting off on players. dunn struck out more than delgado, but he also walked 50 more times. he also AVERAGES 40 home runs a year. he's also 27. P.S. rbi is a function of people getting on in front of you. i don't get why people continue to cite such a worthless statistic. it tells you nothing about a player's performance. i wish people would do research before spouting off on players. dunn struck out more than delgado, but he also walked 50 more times. he also AVERAGES 40 home runs a year. he’s also 27.

P.S.
rbi is a function of people getting on in front of you. i don’t get why people continue to cite such a worthless statistic. it tells you nothing about a player’s performance.

]]> By: easycroc http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28535 easycroc Tue, 16 Oct 2007 04:36:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28535 forget about the offense what we need is pitching and i think if omar is smart he will try to get matt cain from the giants and jon rauch from the nats. That frees heilman back to rotation and then maybe a decent righty closer and the mets are back in business! forget about the offense what we need is pitching and i think if omar is smart he will try to get matt cain from the giants and jon rauch from the nats. That frees heilman back to rotation and then maybe a decent righty closer and the mets are back in business!

]]> By: metsftw http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28514 metsftw Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:00:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28514 yeah, real overrated. OMG HE STRIKES OUT EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKK NOOOOOOOOOO oh wait, he averages 40 home runs a year and his .381 OBP would've been top 5 on the mets this year. yeah, real overrated. OMG HE STRIKES OUT EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKKKKKKKKKKKK NOOOOOOOOOO

oh wait, he averages 40 home runs a year and his .381 OBP would’ve been top 5 on the mets this year.

]]> By: Hellbelly http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28512 Hellbelly Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:45:14 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/10/15/read-free-agent-values/#comment-28512 I'm no Delgado fan, but i'd rather gouge my eyes out rather than see Dunn strike out 175 times and play miserable defense. And imagine a corner outfield of Alou and Dunn.....Beltran would be dead by Memorial Day. Forget Dunn. Please.....please....please....FORGET DUNN! I’m no Delgado fan, but i’d rather gouge my eyes out rather than see Dunn strike out 175 times and play miserable defense.

And imagine a corner outfield of Alou and Dunn…..Beltran would be dead by Memorial Day.

Forget Dunn.

Please…..please….please….FORGET DUNN!

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