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		<title>By: stickguy</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34519</link>
		<dc:creator>stickguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the problem with offering Glavine arbitration is that he just might take it.  Only a risk worth taking if they actually want him back.

And considering how well run the Braves are, the odds of them signing Tommy Boy probably go down if it wil also cost them a 1st round pick.

maybe some other team comes in to snatch up Castillo before Omar reups him and we get a pick that way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the problem with offering Glavine arbitration is that he just might take it.  Only a risk worth taking if they actually want him back.</p>
<p>And considering how well run the Braves are, the odds of them signing Tommy Boy probably go down if it wil also cost them a 1st round pick.</p>
<p>maybe some other team comes in to snatch up Castillo before Omar reups him and we get a pick that way!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34429</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you providing a full detail of the actual rules? It seems you know what you&#039;re talking about. How about sharing the wealth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you providing a full detail of the actual rules? It seems you know what you&#8217;re talking about. How about sharing the wealth?</p>
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		<title>By: Constnza81V2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34414</link>
		<dc:creator>Constnza81V2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No compensation for DeFilice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No compensation for DeFilice?</p>
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		<title>By: Hit The Weights Zeile</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34410</link>
		<dc:creator>Hit The Weights Zeile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no thank you on schilling but id love to get that braves pick if glavine signs although if he signs after Dec 2nd i believe we dont get that pick and im sure the braves are more than aware of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no thank you on schilling but id love to get that braves pick if glavine signs although if he signs after Dec 2nd i believe we dont get that pick and im sure the braves are more than aware of that.</p>
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		<title>By: dave27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you guys getting these rules?  There was a huge debate around the Mets offering Piazza arbitration or not 2 years ago...did he not have 6 years service time?

December 1 is the deadline to OFFER arbitration.  When a player signs is irrelevant (aside from that deadline to sign with his original team which is much later, and even that has no bearing on compensation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you guys getting these rules?  There was a huge debate around the Mets offering Piazza arbitration or not 2 years ago&#8230;did he not have 6 years service time?</p>
<p>December 1 is the deadline to OFFER arbitration.  When a player signs is irrelevant (aside from that deadline to sign with his original team which is much later, and even that has no bearing on compensation).</p>
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		<title>By: dave27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it wouldn&#039;t, unless it&#039;s somewhere between 1998 and 2004 again and someone forgot to tell me.

Schilling is old and in poor condition - another guy we can count on to miss 2-3 months and will have to pray will be available come September.

No thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it wouldn&#8217;t, unless it&#8217;s somewhere between 1998 and 2004 again and someone forgot to tell me.</p>
<p>Schilling is old and in poor condition &#8211; another guy we can count on to miss 2-3 months and will have to pray will be available come September.</p>
<p>No thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34401</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Glavine isn&#039;t eligible for salary arbitration (I don&#039;t think) because he has more than 6 years of service time. I&#039;m not sure about the Dec 1st deadline, but why would any team sign a free agent before Dec 1st if they could do so for free afterward?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Glavine isn&#8217;t eligible for salary arbitration (I don&#8217;t think) because he has more than 6 years of service time. I&#8217;m not sure about the Dec 1st deadline, but why would any team sign a free agent before Dec 1st if they could do so for free afterward?</p>
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		<title>By: dave27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dec 1 has nothing to do with it.

If the Mets offer Glavine arbitration and he signs with Atlanta, they get picks. Period.

My guess is they know what it will take to sign him and they want to sign him, so they will offer arbitration and either sign him well before he has to accept it or watch him sign elsewhere.  The only time you don&#039;t offer is if you a) do not want to get stuck with theplayer or b) are afraid of what he might be awarded.  The Mets have a good idea what he&#039;ll be awarded - its not a risk like Maddux&#039;s last year with the Braves when he got that sick raise through arbitration and they had to trade away Millwood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dec 1 has nothing to do with it.</p>
<p>If the Mets offer Glavine arbitration and he signs with Atlanta, they get picks. Period.</p>
<p>My guess is they know what it will take to sign him and they want to sign him, so they will offer arbitration and either sign him well before he has to accept it or watch him sign elsewhere.  The only time you don&#8217;t offer is if you a) do not want to get stuck with theplayer or b) are afraid of what he might be awarded.  The Mets have a good idea what he&#8217;ll be awarded &#8211; its not a risk like Maddux&#8217;s last year with the Braves when he got that sick raise through arbitration and they had to trade away Millwood.</p>
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		<title>By: dave27</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the offer of arbitration factor in to ARod?  He opted out of the deal on a player option - and I assume that precludes the Yankees from offering arbitration.  So how are they eligible for any compensation?  Did the Dodgers get compensation for JD Drew last year?

As for Glavine - I&#039;d rather have a 1st round pick.  That&#039;s the only outcome of his tenure with the potential to erase his final 3 Sept starts in my book - leading to the next David Wright (Hampton compensation pick, of course).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the offer of arbitration factor in to ARod?  He opted out of the deal on a player option &#8211; and I assume that precludes the Yankees from offering arbitration.  So how are they eligible for any compensation?  Did the Dodgers get compensation for JD Drew last year?</p>
<p>As for Glavine &#8211; I&#8217;d rather have a 1st round pick.  That&#8217;s the only outcome of his tenure with the potential to erase his final 3 Sept starts in my book &#8211; leading to the next David Wright (Hampton compensation pick, of course).</p>
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		<title>By: MealTicket</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/01/note-free-agent-rankings/#comment-34394</link>
		<dc:creator>MealTicket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like last year, there&#039;s widespread confusion about this issue. I&#039;m under the impression that getting picks back for Glavine is highly unlikely. Whether that&#039;s because he will not be offered arbitration, or because he may not be signed before December 1 is anyone&#039;s guess. 

Generally, a team gets picks if it would like to keep a player but that player is determined to sign elsewhere for more money. I don&#039;t think any of these scenarios is likely to play out with ou FAs. (Possibly, if LoDuca or Castillo is offered a longer-term deal elsewhere, the Mets might get a pick).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like last year, there&#8217;s widespread confusion about this issue. I&#8217;m under the impression that getting picks back for Glavine is highly unlikely. Whether that&#8217;s because he will not be offered arbitration, or because he may not be signed before December 1 is anyone&#8217;s guess. </p>
<p>Generally, a team gets picks if it would like to keep a player but that player is determined to sign elsewhere for more money. I don&#8217;t think any of these scenarios is likely to play out with ou FAs. (Possibly, if LoDuca or Castillo is offered a longer-term deal elsewhere, the Mets might get a pick).</p>
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