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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Scott Kazmir on the Market</title>
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		<title>By: RaysIndex</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-36134</link>
		<dc:creator>RaysIndex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 13:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An executive familiar with Tampa’s thinking&quot;

This is pure speculation by somebody that is not even in the Rays front office and is being blown out of proportion by Joel Sherman because he had nothing better to write about and he loves when people talk about him.

Kid K is NOT available...sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An executive familiar with Tampa’s thinking&#8221;</p>
<p>This is pure speculation by somebody that is not even in the Rays front office and is being blown out of proportion by Joel Sherman because he had nothing better to write about and he loves when people talk about him.</p>
<p>Kid K is NOT available&#8230;sorry</p>
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		<title>By: wrightstuff08</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35933</link>
		<dc:creator>wrightstuff08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree totally on this one!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree totally on this one!!</p>
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		<title>By: wrightstuff08</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35930</link>
		<dc:creator>wrightstuff08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is Reyes a special talent???? dont believe the hype!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Reyes a special talent???? dont believe the hype!!</p>
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		<title>By: wrightstuff08</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35927</link>
		<dc:creator>wrightstuff08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes their (Perez/Maine) BAA (batting average against) might have been better than Kazmir but they dont face the Yankees, Red Sox,Indians and the rest of AL lineups!! As far strikeouts not making a pitcher, i would take a power pitcher over a finesse pitcher every time! ie. Josh Beckett</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes their (Perez/Maine) BAA (batting average against) might have been better than Kazmir but they dont face the Yankees, Red Sox,Indians and the rest of AL lineups!! As far strikeouts not making a pitcher, i would take a power pitcher over a finesse pitcher every time! ie. Josh Beckett</p>
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		<title>By: deggs</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35874</link>
		<dc:creator>deggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it is a little right heavy.  But first your wrong Beltran certainly does count.  He bats lefty 75% of the time and gets 2/3 of his home runs from the left side.  Plus with the bench you have 2 lefties in anderson and chavez on the bench who will get a ton of time due to injuries in alou.  Plus Wright, ARod and Alou have no trouble against rhp.  Wright .311 BA 19 HR, 72 rbi&#039;s, .404 OBP.  ARod batted much better against rightys posting a .327 BA, 47 HR, 131rbi&#039;s, and a .419 OBP.  Alou .335 BA, 9 HR, 36rbi&#039;s, and a .368 OBP.  With those stats I think that the lefty righty balance is a little overrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is a little right heavy.  But first your wrong Beltran certainly does count.  He bats lefty 75% of the time and gets 2/3 of his home runs from the left side.  Plus with the bench you have 2 lefties in anderson and chavez on the bench who will get a ton of time due to injuries in alou.  Plus Wright, ARod and Alou have no trouble against rhp.  Wright .311 BA 19 HR, 72 rbi&#8217;s, .404 OBP.  ARod batted much better against rightys posting a .327 BA, 47 HR, 131rbi&#8217;s, and a .419 OBP.  Alou .335 BA, 9 HR, 36rbi&#8217;s, and a .368 OBP.  With those stats I think that the lefty righty balance is a little overrated.</p>
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		<title>By: gowrightgo</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35873</link>
		<dc:creator>gowrightgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 20:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOt for nothing.....

I&#039;d much rather trade for a Lincecum, Kazmir or Matt Cain and the guarantee that they will be in our control for a few years....than trade for Santana and deliver our farm system to Minn for the &quot;hope&quot; that he resigns.

The risk we took with Benson was worth it as that trade included only Matt Peterson who eventually flamed out as a prospect.  This deal would be bigger and would require we had Santana signed to an extension before the deal was finished and complete.

To a lesser extent, I&#039;d include Blanton in the above group of controllable young pitchers I&#039;d prefer to trade for.

Santana would be terrific but I am not sure I want to deliver our entire farm system for him (even if he did sign an extension as part of the deal).  Especially if he got more than 5 years on his deal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOt for nothing&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather trade for a Lincecum, Kazmir or Matt Cain and the guarantee that they will be in our control for a few years&#8230;.than trade for Santana and deliver our farm system to Minn for the &#8220;hope&#8221; that he resigns.</p>
<p>The risk we took with Benson was worth it as that trade included only Matt Peterson who eventually flamed out as a prospect.  This deal would be bigger and would require we had Santana signed to an extension before the deal was finished and complete.</p>
<p>To a lesser extent, I&#8217;d include Blanton in the above group of controllable young pitchers I&#8217;d prefer to trade for.</p>
<p>Santana would be terrific but I am not sure I want to deliver our entire farm system for him (even if he did sign an extension as part of the deal).  Especially if he got more than 5 years on his deal</p>
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		<title>By: Mets Fan on Wall St.</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/11/05/buzz-scott-kazmir-on-the-market/#comment-35864</link>
		<dc:creator>Mets Fan on Wall St.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if Tampa buys into conventional sports trading wisdom that you don&#039;t trade a player to a team in the same division so as not to have that guy come back to bite you in ass.   They might have some young talent but they&#039;ve shown in their brief history that they can&#039;t develop it so you wonder whether it makes a difference to them if they get beat by a former player wearing a division rival&#039;s cap?  

People talk about the Yankees could be involved in any number or major moves - either trades or free agents - but I think if there&#039;s one team that holds a lot of chips and are well supported by the owner&#039;s wallet, it&#039;s Boston.  If the Sox could swing one of their younger guys (either Lester or Buckholz) and nab Kazmir they could almost write their ticket to next year&#039;s WS.  

As for the Mets. assuming the rumor is true, then you&#039;d have to give this some consideration.  Even though Kazmir isn&#039;t the pitcher (and might not ever be the pitcher) that Johan is, he&#039;s a good young talent and provides much more cost certainty than Santana.  

With Santana you don&#039;t even know if you&#039;ll have him for more than 1 year, but if Kazmir shows promise then you could always lock him up with a decent sized extension and it would still be nowhere near what Santana would cost to prevent him from hitting the open market.   A rotation of Pedro-Maine-Perez-Kazmir-El Duque/Injury Fill-In looks pretty good to me.  It woud have to be considered at least the best in the NL East.   

Additionally, if the Mets feel that cost isn&#039;t an object for 2009 then in the 2008 off-season they might have a shot at landing one of the top end starters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Tampa buys into conventional sports trading wisdom that you don&#8217;t trade a player to a team in the same division so as not to have that guy come back to bite you in ass.   They might have some young talent but they&#8217;ve shown in their brief history that they can&#8217;t develop it so you wonder whether it makes a difference to them if they get beat by a former player wearing a division rival&#8217;s cap?  </p>
<p>People talk about the Yankees could be involved in any number or major moves &#8211; either trades or free agents &#8211; but I think if there&#8217;s one team that holds a lot of chips and are well supported by the owner&#8217;s wallet, it&#8217;s Boston.  If the Sox could swing one of their younger guys (either Lester or Buckholz) and nab Kazmir they could almost write their ticket to next year&#8217;s WS.  </p>
<p>As for the Mets. assuming the rumor is true, then you&#8217;d have to give this some consideration.  Even though Kazmir isn&#8217;t the pitcher (and might not ever be the pitcher) that Johan is, he&#8217;s a good young talent and provides much more cost certainty than Santana.  </p>
<p>With Santana you don&#8217;t even know if you&#8217;ll have him for more than 1 year, but if Kazmir shows promise then you could always lock him up with a decent sized extension and it would still be nowhere near what Santana would cost to prevent him from hitting the open market.   A rotation of Pedro-Maine-Perez-Kazmir-El Duque/Injury Fill-In looks pretty good to me.  It woud have to be considered at least the best in the NL East.   </p>
<p>Additionally, if the Mets feel that cost isn&#8217;t an object for 2009 then in the 2008 off-season they might have a shot at landing one of the top end starters.</p>
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		<title>By: gowrightgo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop showing your skirt here.  Strikeouts do not a pitcher make.  Take a look at Perez and Maine&#039;s Batting Avg against, their WHIP and their ERA&#039;s.  All scary close to what Kazmir has produced.  Also, read a bit more closely as I suggested I would not include them in a package for Kazmir as I would in a package for Santana.

I realize Kazmir is thought of highly and he should be.  But don&#039;t discount what is here in Maine in Perez.  And no, I would not trade OP or Maine in a deal for Kazmir.  I would likely trade one straight up for the other but not in a package.  See above post.

No Maine plus Gotay and Heilman for Kazmir type deal.  It it were Maine for Kazmir, I&#039;d probably do it.  But not Maine or OP plus.  That was my point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop showing your skirt here.  Strikeouts do not a pitcher make.  Take a look at Perez and Maine&#8217;s Batting Avg against, their WHIP and their ERA&#8217;s.  All scary close to what Kazmir has produced.  Also, read a bit more closely as I suggested I would not include them in a package for Kazmir as I would in a package for Santana.</p>
<p>I realize Kazmir is thought of highly and he should be.  But don&#8217;t discount what is here in Maine in Perez.  And no, I would not trade OP or Maine in a deal for Kazmir.  I would likely trade one straight up for the other but not in a package.  See above post.</p>
<p>No Maine plus Gotay and Heilman for Kazmir type deal.  It it were Maine for Kazmir, I&#8217;d probably do it.  But not Maine or OP plus.  That was my point</p>
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		<title>By: metstoday.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Kazmir &quot;buzz&quot; has already topped the Lincecum &quot;rumor&quot; as the dumbest conjecture of the offseason. 

I suppose tomorrow there will be a report that the Braves are trading Chipper Jones and John Smoltz to the Mets for Willie Collazo.

It&#039;s true ... I heard it straight from the vice-president of a furniture company based in Atlanta (i.e., &quot;an executive close to the Braves&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Kazmir &#8220;buzz&#8221; has already topped the Lincecum &#8220;rumor&#8221; as the dumbest conjecture of the offseason. </p>
<p>I suppose tomorrow there will be a report that the Braves are trading Chipper Jones and John Smoltz to the Mets for Willie Collazo.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true &#8230; I heard it straight from the vice-president of a furniture company based in Atlanta (i.e., &#8220;an executive close to the Braves&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: GuruMets</title>
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		<dc:creator>GuruMets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Problem, where is the lefty/righty balance?  I understand Delgado should be moved if we find a taker, but this lineup would be without any lefty punch.  And no, Beltran doesn&#039;t count.  Plus, why would you bat him 5th?  He&#039;s more a #2 than a #5 hitter.  Semantics, I know but you have to keep these things in perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem, where is the lefty/righty balance?  I understand Delgado should be moved if we find a taker, but this lineup would be without any lefty punch.  And no, Beltran doesn&#8217;t count.  Plus, why would you bat him 5th?  He&#8217;s more a #2 than a #5 hitter.  Semantics, I know but you have to keep these things in perspective.</p>
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