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Jerry Crasnick of ESPN.com reports the Phillies have acquired RHP Brad Lidge and IF Eric Bruntlett from the Astros in exchange for OF Michael Bourn, RHP Geoff Geary and minor league 3B Mike Costanzo.
Lidge was 5-3 with 19 saves and a 3.36 ERA in 66 appearances for the Astros in 2007.
…well, if the Phillies get the lidge of 2004 - 2005, they certainly upgraded…regardless the move may allow them to move Brett Myers back into the rotation next season…
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Oh no, the Phillies got Lidge…
though he has some nasty stuff, lidge is a head case. a couple of cheap, late-inning homers in the philly bandbox will land him in dr melfis office. im glad they traded bourn- this will be a major loss if they fail to resign rowand.
True he is a head case, but he won’t be closing. I’m assuming Myers will still close and Lidge will set up. This could be a nasty combo if Lidge straightens out his head.
No, Phillies are making Myers their number 2. Probably did this because they missed Schilling and theres not much left out there better than Myers as far as starters go.
The Phillies traded pretty much nothing for Lidge, Bourn is nothing special, Geary is an average middle releiver and Costanzo who knows. Why couldn’t the Mets put a deal like this together, I don’t get it? We could have easily put a similar package together and still not hurt our team or farm system. Omar was sleeping on this one. Plus Wagner has been campaigning to bring Lidge to the Mets since he got here.
hey, i got it. let’s trade for albert pujols.
The Phillies just did exactly what the Mets needed to do. Change of scenery could make a Lidge-Myers combo absolutely scary late in games.
gordon, lidge, six finger mcgee, madson will be back. it sounds more like myers is going back to the rotation
This is the move the Mets needed to make. They need to get their heads out of Arod’s you know what, and focus on the holes on this team: their pitching and bullpen. Man, with Myers/Lidge in the bullpen or Myers back in the rotation, the Phillies just became the team to beat by a longshot. The Mets aren’t even close to as good as the Phillies right now.
FYI..ESPN/AP is reporting that Myers is back in the rotation. I am very, very scared.
This may not be a bad thing. This guy is a white Amando Benitez… high 90s heat, 0 confidence. I’m sure he’ll do well in Philly.
Really no. Lidge’s slider is about 100x better than any secondary pitch Benitez ever had, plus he’s not afraid to throw it. A change of scenery will do him well. Plus…it’s not like he’s exactly coming from a pitcher’s park..Minute Maid is a bandbox too.
Minute Maid is pretty neutral actually. There is a common misconception that it is a bandobx because of the short porch in left, but the gaps are actually very big.
If I’m not mistaken, it played like a bandbox it’s first season, but that was mostly because the Astros had a bunch of overrated pitchers who looked great in the cavernous Astrodome who found out they couldn’t pitch worth a darn in a smaller stadium (cough cough Jose Lima), and the Astros hitters teed off once they got to a place where they could show off their power. Since that first season it has regressed toward the league norm for neutral stadiums, as the ‘Stros have gotten pitchers who can pitch there.
As for how it affects Lidge, I don’t think he’ll have a total meltdown in Philly (like Gagne in Boston), but I also don’t think he’s gonna turn back into the pitcher everyone thought he was gonna be when the ‘Stros got rid of Wagner and Dotel to let him close. Ever since that homer to Pujols, he’s been an average closer at best, and moving to the best hitter’s park in baseball isn’t gonna help matters. I think Wagner’s still gonna have a better year than Lidge, and don’t think he’s worth giving up one of our best prospects and an 11-game winning pitcher for.
Excellent move by the Phillies. I didn’t think they gave up a lot for him.
Awesome. They went out and got a guy who chokes in big spots, and put him in the pressure-cooker of a city known as Philly. I’m going with one blown game before he’s their punching bag.
Heh heh, they’ll be ready to run him out of town after the first homestand. Lidge will give up 3 HRs in April!
We have a closer who chokes in big spots and gets back spasms in those spots as well.
get a clue, falcon4e
Oh, I forgot. Sorry. PedroMania. I’ll revert to being a Met shill.
Wagner is the best closer in the game. He always comes up big in big spots.
name one closer who ALWAYS comes up big in big spots? And remember, Mariano blew GAME 7 of the World Series one year, so you can’t name him. Every closer blows games. Wagner is better than 95% of closers out there, including Lidge. Deal with it.
Geoff Geary might be the ugliest player in baseball. I think Placido Polanco is the only guy who can give him a run for his money.
aaron harang?
Ezequiel Astacio
Vicente Padilla
Are you guys kidding? It’s David Weathers by a mile.
my vote goes to mota
I know he’s technically not in baseball right now, but Ricky Ledee is up there as well.
wow im scared of lidge!!(sarcasm), ill take my chances with heilman for that. I’d rather wait and let omar make a smart move like get chad cordero from washington.
I RATHER TAKE LIDGE OVER CHAD CORDERO ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
you kidding right?
I think this helps the Phillies. But Philly is a place where a guy like Lidge could either flurish or flame out. If he gets off to a bad start, and the fans get on him good, it could be a long season for Lidge.
Lidge does have overpowing stuff though. (But, then again, so does Mota.) This move does scare mem but it does put pressure on Omar and the Mets to respond.
You read the Phillies’ fans’ reactions to the trade by trolling:
http://www.beerleaguer.com/beerleaguer/2007/11/gillick-confirm.html#comments
This is not good! Lidge can be dominant. He was one of the most dominant closers in baseball for a few years and can be lights out for Philly. I hope Omar at least looked into getting him and also hope he didnt pass because his name is Brad Lidge and not Cordero. Lidge as a set-up man for Wagner would have been great but oh well and I hope Omar has something better up his sleeves for the Mets