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…over the next few days, i will be running a series of polls that aim to gauge the collective conscience of this site’s readers with regards to how best to approach this off-season…i will run a new poll every hour or so, so please check back often…
…this is the third poll…scroll down for previous polls…
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A-Rod plays third, Wright second..?
I agree as well…
yes, that should have been another option. delgado MIGHT have a monster contract year
Well, that could be out of the question as Omar said he will “try his hardest” he get Castillo back.
Wright cannot play 2nd base..the guy just won a gold glove….maybe he can play 1st..he is not built for 2nd base……although his arm would prob look alot better…..my opinion if we sign Arod Delgado is gone….if not then we cannot get Arod….and we should not move Reyes again to 2nd..or trade him..no way!! forget Arod..although if we got him id be happy, I think the Cabrera trade would be better , I just cant see the Marlins trading him or Dtrain in their own division.
Where is the most talked about option? Sign Arod for third and move Wright to play 2nd? That has been the most talked about yet it isnt an option to vote on? Is it that Matt has said he would want Wright at first so he makes that the option to vote on?
Because it is the most retarded option…
It’s the most sane option. Delgado is here, and you have to assume he’s going to be here. Reyes is a better defensive player than Wright, therefore you don’t move Reyes.
And Wright is a better defensive player 3B than ARod, therefore you don not move Wright. ARod at first, or no deal, IMO.
Wow, long day… that should read:
And Wright is a better defensive 3B than ARod, therefore you do not move Wright. ARod is at first, or no deal, IMO.
And I’m with you on that. Shuffling people around can affect their hitting, and any weak link in the infield can weaken the entire unit. Moving people around would severely detract from the value of inserting A-Rod into the lineup. In my opinion, moving Wright anywhere is silly — to second is downright insane.
That would be fine except Wright is NOT a better defensive player than A-Rod.
Oh, but he is!
No. He isn’t.
Delgado is here, and you have to assume he’s going to be here.
why? we can make a move with him..
its only the anti-arod jihadists who believe that once we get Arod we cannot make another move now or in the future.
As long as they get rid of the loafing gutless, broken down Carlos Delgado- who hides from the media after he has a bad game…well, as long as he is gone- I don’t care what they do…
What about sign ARod and let ARod play 2nd? This is by far the most obvious solution, and Matt doesn’t post it.
I would have voted to “Sign ARod for 1st and trade Delgado” except that I don’t think there is any realistic chance that ARod will sign with a team who plans to move him from 3rd (or short).
send him back to Vieques
he was part and parcel to the apathetic, entitled to the playoffs, bored, media unfriendly team of 2007..
Ill chip in for the Metroliner ticket to send him to Toronto ,, where he belongs.
Everyone in the “Sign A-Rod” camp is officially out of their minds. I will not debate this.
there are options missing,
-sign Arod, move Wright to Second
-sign Arod, Trade Wright
Arod is not going to agree to play 1st for the Mets.
I guanrantee you the only reason he agreed to do it for the Yankees was because they are the Yankees. Lets face it, as much as we as Mets fans hate the Yankees, they are a legendary Franchise, and to have the opportunity to play for that Franchise, especially the state they were in when Arod was traded to them, is probably a Dream for most players. The Mets, as mucha s we love them, are not that kind of Franchise, i doubt Arod would sign with any team unless he was to start at third or Short.
As Far as Tarading Wright, it is a Viable option to boost the Mets in 2 ways, the Mets Get arod and the Power and RBIs that come with him, and the Mets have a Big Bargaining Chip to Trade to Minnesota for Santana
While signing A-Rod could make sense businesswise, trading Wright is the very definition of “Alienating your fanbase”
I know I’d go to less games.
Wright is the face of the franchise. A-Rod doesn’t even have a face – just the specter of his money-hungry agent.
I have been a die hard met fan my entire life and have watched or listened to every single game that I possibly could since I was about 10 years old. I can honestly say that If the Mets traded David Wright I would immediately find a new team to root for (probably the team he was traded to). Anyone who could possibly suggest that is either retarded or insane.
Ive been watching the Mets since 83, and every season ive gone to more and more games, ive sat through the seasons of last place finnishes, ive sta through the seasons of near misses, I sat in Disbelief in an Empty Stadium after Game 7 of the 06 NLCS, my point is. Im tired of the Almost got it’s, I want it, I want to at least be able to go to a World Series Game. in 86 I was too young an my parents werent coughing up the cash for tickets to the WS, last year i had a ticket to game 4, didnt go there, had a ticket to game 3 this year, no luck again. Dammit before i get too old and too broke I want to be able to at least see my Team in person play 1 damn world series game.
If the mets dont get some big time talkent do you think that is going to happen? IS the aging Delgado, and the DL bound Alou gonna get us to the series? If we dont add a big time stud is our current rotation plus a Mediocre couple of Arms going to get us to the Series? I doubt it.
You add the #1 pitcher in the Game, and possibly the #1 Hitter in the game to the same team, how can you not possibly consider that???
But your right, i guess im just Retarded and or Insane.
If you think the Mets can add Santana AND AROD…
and what about AROD’s postseason performances makes you think HE can help this team get to a world series???
He’s due??? ;)
“One Day this team will kill me,” (great name!), I couldn’t agree with you more. I have been obsessed with this team my whole life and have always looked forward to the day that they alone would be in the spotlights as champs (was 3 in ‘86). But if they are going to sell their soul and buy this guy, I don’t want any part of it anymore. Screw it. I’m already struggling with how, as a Mets fan, I would approach a situation like A-Rod batting against the Yanks. Who would you root for? I’ve hated this guy along with Clemens more than other player over the last decade because he’s a cancer for the clubhouse, poison for the game, and pretty much a worthless human being (who happens to play baseball very well). Have some principles guys! Is it really worth winning in Yankees style? Let’s keep Wright and Reyes, focus on obtaining pitching, and prevent a breakdown in team chemistry and probably a civil war among the fan base. Didn’t we learn anything from the Yankees episode?? STAY AWAY FROM THIS GUY!
If the Mets trade Reyes or Wright for Santana, I hope that Santana files for free agency in ‘09 and is acquired by the Yankees. I’ll also be spared the indignity of rooting for a team whose stadium is named after the bank with the worst service in America.
First, you rip apart the player I most want the Mets to go out and get.
Then you go and talk smack about my bank?!
I’m not having anymore of this from you…
Why A-Rod to second or Wright to second is not an option is because neither has the body type to play at that position. Do you really think that they can play there???? You think it is a easy position to play??? I don’t…
Why not just sign A-Rod to catch while you’re at it?
LOL. Best comment in this string. There’s no chance that ARod signs with a team that woould move him from 3rd (except maybe back to SS). Much as many would like to add his bat without any disruption to Wright and Reyes, the only realistic choices are:
Sign ARod, move Wright to 1st.
Sign ARod, trade Reyes for a big-time #1starter (like Santana).
Don’t sign ARod.
The second is very unlikely and losing Reyes undermines the updside of adding ARod. I’m nervous about screwing with Wright’s position, so I lean to not signing ARod. But pretending the Mets have choices that don’t involve tradeoffs is just silly.
Wow, I’m amazed at how much of a minority I’m in, having voted for ARod at SS and Reyes for pitching. I know it’s the hardest option, but anyone who wants to win this year and think we can land an ace without a bargaining chip like Reyes is out of their mind. Frankly, the main reason I’m for signing ARod is that it would give us a real fighting chance to land an ace through a trade with Reyes as the bait.
This team doesn’t need ARod from an offensive standpoint, but it needs a stud pitcher badly. The only way you get that pitcher this year is having Reyes to trade. ARod makes that possible.
I love Reyes and I think he’s only going to get better, but trading him for Oswalt, Santana, or Haren with ARod to replace him would, to me, make us the NL faves in ‘08. Hard choice, but I think that’s what I’d do.
We could have had Oswalt for Milledge and Heilman a couple of years ago…
He’s good, but he’s not Reyes – good
Market for top pitchers is even more competitive now. No way you can land Oswalt, especially with his relatively reasonable contract, for what we almost got him for last time (Darned Peter Angelos…). Maybe he’s not Reyes good, but he’s an inning-eater with nasty stuff that would thrive at Shea. With ARod to replace Reyes, I’m willing to “lose” a little bit because Oswalt would fill a larger need, while ARod more than makes up for Reyes’ absence.
Again, if that happens I shall hope with all my might that the Mets get what they deserve and lose Santana in ‘09 to the Yankees. If fans can’t stick by the identity of a team, let them get what they deserve.
(As for neither Wright nor ARod having the body type for 2nd base, ARod doesn’t have the body type of a shortstop either, and it didn’t hinder him all that, although that was years ago, and, as I’ve been saying, it’s not worth the risk.
Will Omar be Boras’ sucker? Stay tuned folks!
We can be the NL favorites anyway. No one else is that good. Baseball is a lot of relating to your team, and trading away all your fun and entertaining players for guys we don’t know and have no relationship with is bad business. Trading Reyes is just stupid. Especially for a possibly Injury-laden Haren or free-agent bound Santana. Oswalt is a better option, but the Mets almost pulled that off for a lot less than Reyes. All the Aces to trade for would cripple most teams in a trade, we’re better off finding a marginal guy that can get us wins and innings and throwing lots of money at Santana or someone else after the season.
I disagree. The Dodgers, especially if they land ARod, would be the team to beat. And don’t think the Rockies are completely a flash in the pan. A number of their young players will only get better, and they have a deep and talented bullpen. The Braves are a couple of moves away from being the team to beat as well.
There are a number of teams like the A’s and Astros that would be willing to sacrifice an ace to get a young talent like Reyes. I do not think that another middle-of-the-rotation starter is going to get the job done, as our starters just have not been able to go deep enough not to tax out the bullpen. I also do not think that just another middle-of-the-rotation pitcher puts us in good stead come playoff time.
I see your point, but I am not advocating the Mets trading all their young, exciting players. I am advocating that they trade one to fill a more pressing need that can be filled by a free agent signing.
Obviously I’m in the minority, and that’s fine, but I think you’re dreaming if you think we can just do a patchwork job on this rotation and be a real competitor next year–especially come playoff time. I don’t want a team just good enough to get to the World Series and get rolled. I want to make sure my team has a real chance to win it all.
If we had had just one middle of the road reliever instead of Mota last year we win the division by half a dozen games. As of right now, neither the Braves or Phillies have gotten better.
You could say we’vegotten worse with losing Glavine, but that’s what we need to replace, and I’d rather replace him with a average guy who’s going to pitch over 200 innings than a guy like Glavine who’s going to give you 20 excellent starts and 10 horrible ones.
I’m very comfortable with Pedro, Maine, Perez and/or Duque(or suprise guy Pelfrey, etc guy that did well all year) in the playoffs.
Obviously just lookign at the last game of the season, an average guy keeping us in the game is much better than a guy who takes us out of it before we even bat.
The Dodgers would definitely be formidable with A-rod.
They might even get Santana if they get A-rod.
I say bring it on to the Dodgers, Braves, and Rockies. They may be good, but the Mets at their best can beat any team in this league.
wright and a-rod have outgrown second base, so that could be a problem, second, if the mets get a-rod, i think they trade milledge + for blanton, and platoon endy/gomez, since they believe they have enough offense at the other positions.
so….based on the poll at this moment, 66% ARE IN FAVOR OF SIGNING AROD. they are truly enlightened. btw, i vote for arod at 3b, and dw (and his arm) at 1B.
To me, if anyone other than Reyes and Wright are manning the left side of the IF on opening day, then IMO, the Mets would be better off re-hiring Steve Phillips. (At least he had the sense to not overpay for ARod.)
It’s likely we would’ve made the playoffs in 2001 if we signed A-Rod. Just the added admissions from being good in 2001 and after that would’ve payed A-Rod’s contract. As long as they’re on the team I could care less where they play.
Sign A-Rod for RIGHT FIELD. He plays there for 3-4 years and moves to 1B for the final 3 years of his contract.
Or just one year, then takes over for Delgado in 2009. This I would be okay with.
BTW – Boras will get A-Rod to pitch if he got extra $$$ to do so!
RF is the best option. Manny plays LF and gets a ton of $$$$. No reason the Mets can’t pay big $$$ for a RF.
Anybody advocating trading Reyes isn’t a baseball fan.
or wright, for that matter…
Or at least not a Met fan.
If Omar could score Cabrera; could he play first? What an infield!
Wright, Reyes, Castillo & Cabrera. Holy cow, they’d be throwin’ babies out the window in Brooklyn!!!!
I wouldn’t count on Cabrera to be picking balls out of the dirt.
He’s too fat.
You’re no Mo Vaughn, Senator….
It seems that the mets have $, but there’s no pitching out there. What about some kind of sign and trade involving A-Rod, where they basically sign him, trade him for an ace-type pitcher, and pay a % of his salary.
I know this sounds bizarre, but when you have money and need pitching, you have to be creative.
Baseball, especially down the stretch, is around 80% about pitching and defense. Offense is not the problem, and A-Rod is not the solution. Still, he would be a nice trading chip to have.
The only thing I would worry about, is knowing Boras, not only will there be a no-trade claus, but there will probably be a kicker put in place such that if ARod waives the cluase, his salary escalates…
Both Reyes and Wright have to stay. Anyone else can be traded. The team is built around these guys and the francise will position them as the best SS and 3B in club history moving forward.
Mets need to do two BIG things this offseason:
Sign A-Rod to play RF or 1B
Trade for a starting pitcher.
Having A-Rod will allow the Mets to carry less offense behind the plate and will enable them to trade Milledge in a package for pitching. While I’d love Santana, I’m not willing to part with Reyes and I’d rather wait until an ace hits the FA market next year or after.
Overpaying for A-Rod won’t stop the Mets from doing other things. It will just raise ticket prices. They will go up at Citifield anyway.
66% want Arod! Yes! You guys are smartening up! I love it.
And 66% don’t want to see DW moved…
Check that… 77%.
(Just looked at the top two choices, originally.)
regardless, ~70% want arod. smart!
want arod under conditions we assume to be impossible (move him to first, or even better right). 3b is david wright, ss is reyes. If Arod can work around him, he’d instantly prove he actually wants to be a met, is a team player, and didn’t just go to the biggest paycheck.
not bloody likely.
You are singling out A-Rod as the only guy in baseball who is after a paycheck. If that were the case, why was it so important to David Wright and Jose Reyes to renegotiate their deals with the Mets before it was necessary to do so? Was it because they knew that they could? Yes. Was it because they wanted more money? Yes. Why is it okay for them to cash in to their max potential and not A-Rod?
If it benefits the team to add A-Rod, (and it certainly does), then wouldn’t Wright or Reyes volunteering to move positions to accommodate him be considered putting the team first? Yes. So why should either of these guys balk at the thought of switching positions if it is only for the benefit of the team? They shouldn’t. Not if they want to do what gives them the best chance to win.
those kids were making peanuts until they signed those contracts. Arod just opted out of a contract that guarantees he’ll be the highest played baseball player ever. a little different scenario there. He is putting himself above every player in the game .. as has been argued ad naseum, if he is that much of a difference maker, going to a team that already makes the playoffs yearly, why no rings? Because he sucks the life out of the room, because he has no karma, because he is so insecure he proves himself with every home run, peering back at his own dugout as if to say “see, I’m as good as my paycheck says”
We have youth and excitement on the left side of the infield, these guys (along with pedro) are singlehandedly what rekindled my passion for baseball after all but losing interest in the steroid era of home runs and ego. Baseball is about the team, one guy cannot win it, and that’s something I’ve no evidence to believe Arod understands.
Y’know, if you’re going to pay Arod 30-35 mil per year, he should play any damn position you want. Is it too late for him to learn a knuckleball?
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I voted get Arod and put him at first, trade Delgado. I really believe that he’s still got a lot of value. One poster around here compared him to Sheffield when the Yanks traded him and I agree. Does anyone disagree that Delgado, Gotay, and Milledge could get you one of Matt Cain or Lincecum? Barry Bonds was the San Fran offense and now he’s gone. That’s three position players they can slot in on day one for one pitcher where they are strong at. I personally would like to see Cain over Lincecum. No thanks on Noah Lowry unless it is on the cheap.
buy arod….dont use prospects for piggy cabrera
I’m with you. He’s a slob. And he gets bigger every year!!
http://blog.nj.com/ledgermets/2007/11/pedro_still_peeved_over_finish.html
It sounds corny, but that article gave me the chills. I love Pedro! I love hearing him talk like that. Tommy (two-face) Glavine could learn a lot from him. If Tommy was a man, he would beg the Mets to give him a deal so he could make up for last year. …but he’s not.
Man, you gotta love Petey! I have a feeling he’s going to be vintage Pedro this year. Can’t wait for opening day.
If the mets sign A-rod I will no longer be a fan of the team. I wil happily sell all of my mets memorabilia and try to forget that I ever loved a team that participated in ruining baseball.
If the mets sign a-rod you almost garunteeing that when their respective contracts are up Wright and Reyes will sign with other teams. You simply can not abuse talent like that forcing them to move to other positions.
Secondly you are adding the least clutch performer in important games of all time to the team that just had the biggest collapse in sports history. They will solidify that they won’t win a world series for at least ten years.
He will play terribly and add his name to a long list of Mo Vaughns and Roberto Alomars because Mets fans are more fickle than yankee fans and they are more likely to hate a player who under performs than love a player who plays as expected.
Not to mention imagine a team in six years, all that will be left of this team will be Alex Rodriguez, and Carlos Beltran underperforming ego’s who are booed constantly.
I take back my initial statement. If the mets sign A-rod I will go to games and boo the entire time. I will boo the franchise, I will boo minaya, and I will boo the other fans who are supporting the collapse of a sport that used to have value greater than the bottom line.
Do you drink a lot?
How do we know A-Rod won’t move? Boras hasn’t said anything. A-Rod hasn’t said anything. And if Chipper can move to the outfield, why can’t A-Rod? I guess 50 homer hitting outfielders are a dime a dozen so he loses his HOF infielder advantage??
If they can find somewhere to play him, I say get him. And I’m in favor of trading Delgado whether or not A-Rod is signed. His offense is now easily replaceable.
Wait…so 50% of you want A-Rod, and now with this poll…you don’t?!
I’m confused.
You should poll this:
A.) Sign AROD and Santana and DiMaggio and Ruth.
B.) do nothing.
Alex is this year’s Barry Zito….lots of steam and no traction….
We will probably end up with Trascel and Victor Zambrano….
The fact that you even made that post shows that you have absolutely no credibility.
We should sign arod to catch and then sign paul loduca and put him at second.
SI.com has learned The Mets’ contingent secretly met with Scott Boras on Tuesday night to discuss the possibility of signing Alex Rodriguez,
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/07/arod.sweepstakes/index.html
You have got to be kidding with the knocks on Delgado, one of the classiest, consistent and clutch players the Mets have ever had. How quickly we forget the only Met hitter who hit in the playoffs in “06.
Fact is, all he got in ‘07 was get older. He is on the decline. If we could sign ARod for first I would consider trading Delgado for some youngsters.
But lets not bash him as lazy, unmotivated or untalented. if you do you are truly clueless.
Shalt we first dislodge Bora$ head from Alex’s buttock region
No, this poll is misleading. Because most of us at this point would love a replacement for Delgado – and if ARod were to play 1st, it would be a match made in heaven. But if we get Arod it’ll require shifting Wright or Reyes to move, in which case I think most would say stay away.
I wouldnt have signed Alou and would have put Wright in left
it just goes to show that ~ 30% of these “readers” are either stupid loser met fans or they are yankee/brave/etc. met haters.
The real purpose of this poll is to determine the percentage of readers who are deluded enough to believe that A-Rod will make the Mets any better than a dependable arm for the pen who will go 75 innings at a 3.00 ERA, and who will come at about 1/10th the price.
“Ooh, ooh, let’s spend 30 mil on a position we already have filled!! Then we can disrupt the team by moving our players around to unfamiliar positions. Or maybe we can trade one of our two franchise studs, who we have locked up for relative peanuts until 2112.” Jay-ziz.
The sad thing is that there are team owners out there that don’t know any more about what wins ballgames than the average 16-year-old fantasy-team-owner. Thank god that Omar is smart enough not to push the Wilpons to waste money on a player we don’t need.
Thats the problem with all these polls.
Just look at the catcher poll, what if he had sign Posada for two years? How would the results change?
The Delgado choice is unrealistic
A) Will A-rod agree to sign for significantly less than asked for
B) Will he agree to move to a different position.
In a realistic situation, you could argue that around 53% would like A-rod, and 47% do not.
Is anyone else worried about the prospect of not having enough power from the LEFT side of the plate this year and beyond? I know we’ve got a # of switch hitters but power production-wise I don’t think we’re in such good shape.
I hope that’s a joke
No, since arod, DW and Alou all hit righties well, and for power.
Next year, you can look to replace ALou with a lefty power hitter (Dunn?)
The problem with these polls is too many variables. I wouldn’t trade Reyes “for pitching” and slot ARod at SS….but I might move Reyes “for Santana” and slot ARod at SS.