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Michael Silverman of the Boston Herald cites “whispers” that the Padres are letting teams know that Jake Peavy is available.
Silverman notes that the Padres are an example of a team attempting to capitalize on a weak free agent pitching market.
He also reports that the Twins have not let teams know that Johan Santana is available.
On a related note, Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports on his blog that the Yankees and Padres briefly discussed a deal that would have sent Peavy to the Yankees for Phil Hughes and Melky Cabrera, but that the trade “almost certainly won’t happen.”
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Don’t the Padres have a thing for OP since trading him years ago?
So one guy takes a fluke shot to the head and now all coaches have to wear batting helmets? That’s pretty lame. It should be up to each coach, as it seems it was following the incident, whether he wants to wear a helmet or not. Sounds like some lawmaker with a knee jerk reaction to something that happens once and will probably not happen again. Might as well make players where helmets in the dugout because more foul balls go blazing into the dugout then up to the coach’s box.
You should have posted this under the post referring to this subject.
Why do you care?
Oops, wrong story…anyway, I’d take Jake Peavy but why would the Padres trade Peavy? and if the Yanks and Pads were even discussing that deal, the Mets should be able to get him for Milledge, Pelfry, and Humber or Mulvy. Milledge is better than Cabrera and Pelfry + Humber/Mulvy should equal out to Hughes. Throw in someone else and I’d take Peavy for that.
I’m really tossed up about this offseason. Obviously we need pitching, and to get anything good, we’ll have to move Milledge. I have no problem trading Pelfrey or Humber, but I really like Milledge’s swagger. It almost reminds me of the swagger Keith Hernandez had back in 85/86 (only Lastings doesn’t have the resume). I would rather keep Lastings, and see what we could get for Gomez, Pelfrey and/or Humber.
So . . . swagger – resume = ???
I like Milledge, but he still needs to learn a thing or two, swagger or no.
I just like that he shows emotion and confidence… two things that were missing at the end of last season. Some people think he’s arrogant… personally, I think too many players have forgotten what it’s like to have a little personality. Just because he doesn’t have a secret handshake for every player, a la Reyes, doesn’t mean he’s a bad guy. I loved when he high-fived the fans after his homer vs. the Giants. Anyone who thinks he was trying to show up the Giants needs to relax. The kid was excited… I’m glad he’s not a robot.
emotion and confidence are fine, but without demonstrations of serious talent. what good are they?
I see that the Braves passed on Octavio Dotel’s option. He’s someone that I’d like to see the Mets bring back to shore up the ‘pen.
Yea…he’d do great from the DL….I always liked him since he was traded, but his arm has been a mess for the last few years….non-guaranteed ST invite if anything.
Yahoo Sports is reporting: Mets want Cordero, Nats want Gomez, Pelfrey
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Mets-want-Cordero-Nats-want-Gomez-Pelfrey?urn=mlb,52931
I’d trade pelfrey and another prospect for Cordero, but not Gomez and pelfrey…id say one of those two and then a nice B-level prospect. Relief pitching is not worth two good prospects. We need to save the big packages for an #1 starter…i.e. Peavy or Johan
Why would you trade a potential ace and another prospect for a bottom tier relief pitcher in cordero
Pelfry is far from a “potential ace.”
and Cordero is far from a “bottom tier” reliever. Not saying I want that trade to happen, but I think you’re severely overrating the Mets side and severely underrating the Nats side.
Pelfrey will NEVER, and I repeat NEVER be an ace on the Mets or any team. Take that to the bank. Pelfrey an ace? HA HA HA. I cant stop laughing.
He’s maybe far from being an ace.. but he is a “potential” ace
Can we get real serious about what the Mets need this winter? We have to deal with the pitching. Look at September, the Mets didn’t lose because they couldn’t score, the pitching couldn’t hold the lead. Here is what we need to do:
We have to acknowledge that the Mets blew it last year by not getting at least one of the following: Tim Hudson, Barry Zito, or Jeff Suppan. Now, let’s deal with it and get beyond it: Aaron Heilman needs to come out of the bullpen and into the rotation. He has the ability to give us innings, and that is the real secret to having the relief pitching neccesary for the post-season.
We keep Pelfry and we keep Humber.
If we really want Glavine, who is good and can still pitch, let’s make him an offer he can’t refuse and see if he really wants to be with us, which I doubt. I didn’t go over to the Army for the fact I have a weird tie to the Navy, where I started my military career, so I understand if he wants to go into retirement a Brave. If that is the case, thanks for the time, you gave us some real chances to make the post-season and we only hope that when we play the Braves and you are the pitcher that we beat your ass. Otherwise, have a great season.
Get Pedro in a strength building program and lets make sure he is healthy and ready for next year. You want El Duque? Fine, but bring in Livan Hernandez and keep Oranldo until mid-season so you have him in the Fall. This way, we have: Perez, Pelfrey, Heilman, Maine, and then we can rotate Glavine, Pedro, Livan, and El Duque as the number 5 starter.
Personally, I think what we need to do is have the coaches work with Perez, Pelfry and Maine and get them to strengthen their arms and last until 8. Then we need Sanchez or Bradford back to get us through an innning or two as the rubber arm, and get us to Wagner, though we have to be careful with that because we risk wearing those guys out, which is what happened this year. We have good pitchers, we just need them to have stronger arms to last longer. They should be embarrassed that Glavine is the one who pitched more innings than they did. That’s sad and that’s what we need to deal with. Forget getting someone else, just work on building up what we have and quit going to bullpen so often.
don’t forget lilly, mench and trading bannister for a bag of balls.
Would pull the trigger on that right now. Pelfrey to me is going to be nothing more than a fifth starter. If there is one thing we could use on our team as evident by our collaspe is bullpen help and Cordero would make our pen so much stronger. I would try to hold on to Gomez if I could though. As for Peavy, Oh my God! It would be equal to getting Santana. I would offer the Pads Milledge, Humber, and Mulvey if that would get it done. As someone has already stated above, Milledge is better than Melky and Humber with Mulvey is more appealing than just Hughes. Get it done Omar. Dont sleep on this please!
too much for a RP.
Pelfrey for Cordero straight up???
OK OK OK. Peavey does not need to be shopped to take advantage of a weak free agent class of pitching.
Peavey is a top starter in the NL. One of the top 5 IMO. If he is available seriously, I’d look hard at making a deal for him. I would not give up OP or Maine in that deal but I would give em Milledge plus another pitching prospect.
Peavey is anchor
A rotation that includes Pedro, Peavey, Olliver Perez, Maine and Heilman (or insert FA like Silva or Livan or possibly M Prior) would be sweet.
Why even give up Milledge? I think Mulvey straight up, maybe I’d throw in Gotay. :)
Gotta give something to get something, friends. I think this one is probably just a rumour, there is no reason in the world to trade Jake Peavy…
“I would not give up OP or Maine in that deal but I would give em Milledge plus another pitching prospect.”
San Diego wouldn’t even return that call.
Omar wouldn’t be silly enough to make it.
Peavy has destiny on an operating table one day. Too much torque on his elbow every pitch. Believedat
i really hate when people say things like this. unless you are a doctor or a trainer on a MLB team i dont care about your medical opinion on a guy. every freakin trade rumor about a good pitcher has someone say “hes gonna need surgery”. im just curious what ACE out there right now is immune to getting hurt?
You would not give up OP or Maine? Why because they are better that Peavey?!?!?!
I’d trade anything to get Peavy. Even a package of Maine, Gomez, Milledge and Pelfrey would have to be looked at. This guy is a difference maker – the best pitcher in the NL by far.
I would love to make a run at Peavy. He is the front line starter the Mets need! I would make an offer of Milledge-Heilman-and Pelfrey for starters. This would allow the Mets to hold onto Carlos Gomez who I think should be the future right fielder. Heilman can get out of the Met pen and become a starter in SD. Then the Mets can go out and attempt to bolster that pen.
Peavy is great and I would love to get him, but perhaps a more realistic pursuit might be AJ Burnett. That’s an injury risk, i know, but if he’s healthy he could really bolster the rotation. But overall, the most interesting name to me outside of Santana has got to be Lincecum and/or Cain. Again, the cost would have to involve not only a top prospect, but a big name veteran who’s salary we’re willing to eat part of. We just don’t have the young talent to compete in the trade market. Maybe Delgado and Milledge to San Fran. Delgado hits well there.
OMAR GET PEAVY!!! Whatever it takes except david and jose!
Agreed. Only untouchables for Peavy are Reyes, Wright, Maine, and Perez. Anyone else is fair game. Reyes I would consider for Santana though.
Can someone please explain why Melky Cabrera is a sought-after trading chip? He’s a .270 hitter in THAT lineup! He’ll be lucky to crack .240 with normal support. He is a 5th OF at best. Unreal.
I swear if you put a Yankee hat on a turd you could trade it for an effective situational lefty.
Rumors abound…really, I bet every player on every team can be had if the right offer comes along so saying Peavy can be had really is not that big a deal. Name me one player on any team that is untouchable if the right deal did not come along? Aside from no trade clauses, everyone is up for grabs and these headline making trade rumors are more for show than substance. Someone needs to go back to last year, record every rumor and which came true and probably less than 10% came to fruition…
Yeah, I agree. It makes no sense for Peavy to be going anywhere. It’s just this time of year. Reporters see two GM’s talking, and sudddenly a dea is brewing. I’m sure it’s nothing.
That being said, it won’t hurt for Omar to make a call. :-)
Because he is only 22, an incredible outfielder, and improving every year. I agree, he is nothig special, but saying he is only a 5th OF when he has played every day 2 years in a row for the Yankees is silly. He isnt the main piece of a trade, but a valuable piece, especially for the Padres who need a CF. To the rest of you, we are not getting Peavy. There is a better chance we re-sign Steve Phillips to GM.
an incredible OF? he isnt very good defensively at all.
So true. I’m not sure where people get off saying a package including Melky and some other prospect who may not even be a pitcher should do the trick to land Santana. I doubt anyone except Yankee fans are as high on this guy. To a lesser degree the same can be said about mets fans and our prospects. Unfortunately, it’s all a matter of perception. If GM’s around the league see fit to deem Melky a better overall player than Gomez or Milledge, what can you do? It sucks. Sometimes the way baseball evaluates talent is a mystery. See Gold Glove third-baseman, David Wright. One hell of a ball player, but a gold-glover? Perception.
You are so right. Melky is completly overvalued. Milledge is so much better of a player.
http://sportsyenta.blogspot.com/2007/11/buster-olney-is-insane.html
The above article about sums this whole thing up.
You know what team Peavy is going to be pitchign for next season (besides my fantasy team)? The San Diego Padres. This rant says it best. why would the Padres even consider for a second trading the best pitcher in the NL? Puh-lease. Next rumor.
Whoops, Wayneo beat me to it.
I really like Milledge, but would see him go with OP & Mulvey (maybe more) for Peavy. Two key arms (Peavy & Rauch) who could go a bit longer during the season could keep the team fresh the rest of the year so they don’t fall down a day late and a game short again.
I generally agree with the people who say Peavy isn’t going anywhere (why in the hell would the Padres trade the guy who is going to easily win the Cy Young Award this year). That said, even if he is on the market, and even if the Mets had the horses to get him (which they probably don’t), there’s one thing that concerns me about Peavy: To this point in his career, he’s been an AWFUL big-game pitcher. The polar opposite of Josh Becket. Look at his postseason stats:
2 GS, 0-2, 12.10 ERA, 9.2 IP, 5 K, 19 H, 4 BB
…that’s really bad, and that’s not counting the 1-game playoff against Colorado this year in which he went 6 innings, giving up 10 hits, 6 earned runs, and 4 walks. And, in a game against Arizona when the race was close (I believe they were tied or a game back) in early September, he went 4 innings, gave up 7 hits and 8 earned runs. That start was on 3 days rest, so there’s a reasonable excuse, but even still, his big game numbers are awful.
I’m sure a lot of people are of the attitude that these numbers don’t matter, as long as he helps us get to the postseason, I hope you aren’t in the anti-ARod crowd because of his postseason failures.
There’s small sample sizes, and there’s this – microscopic sample sizes.
big name pitchers get made on small sample sizes. Beckett has started 9 postseason games, and people are already saying he’s one of the greatest postseason pitchers of all-time. In fact, part of the reason the Sox traded for Beckett was because he was already seen as a “big-game pitcher” after only 5 postseason starts. Fact is, Peavy has pitched in 3 REALLY big games, and gotten CREAMED in all 3 of them. It’s not like he’s 0-3 with a 4.50 ERA or something, I mean, he’s been Tom Glavine against the Marlins in the last game of the season bad in them. That was my point.
by the way, I love Jake Peavy. The only reason I even noticed these stats is because a few months ago I was arguing that he should have a case for MVP on an ESPN message board, and while comparing his stats to a number of other pitchers, I noticed his dismal postseason stats, and then while watching him get crushed in the 1-game playoff it came back to me. I still think he’s one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball right now, I just don’t think he’s the kind of ace who’s gonna shut down opponents in the postseason ala Beckett or ‘01 Randy Johnson or ‘99 Pedro
That’s still only three starts. Get back to me when he’s made 8 or 9 post-season starts that awful.
Wow. I would like to hope that the proposed deal of Peavy for Hughes and Melky wasn’t quashed by the Yanks. That would have been dumb.
If you can have a stud like Peavy for a dime-a-dozen-outfielder and an unproven like Hughes, you do it IMO. What are the odds that Hughes develops into something better than Peavy anyway?