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According to ESPN Radio’s Andrew Marchand, citing the player’s agent, the Mets will soon make a contract offer to free-agent C Yorvit Torrealba.
In 113 games for the Rockies this past season, Torrealba hit .255 with eight home runs and 47 RBI, while striking out 73 times in 396 at-bats.
…i’m not completely sure what is so compelling about torrealba and why he intrigues Omar Minaya and company so much…torrealba is a career .251 hitter and hasn’t shown much power…plus, he hasn’t been great defensively, committing seven errors and only throwing out 19.7 percent of runners last season, second worst in the nl…
…my hope is that minaya is simply gauging the market at this point, but eventually turns his attention back to Paul Lo Duca…
…added to by Matthew Cerrone…
…i totally agree, mike…it’s perpexling, to say the least…
…as i have written before, in talking with people connected to the team, i sense ownership and some coaches and players have soured on him, as they feel he was too negative during September, i.e., the team looked to him as an emotional leader, during which he was down and out and depressed - much like you and i…to me, he was probably just reflecting his honesty, which is a good thing to some extent, but i also understand how this can be bad…what’s more, i keep hearing that the team wants a catcher who works better with the pitching staff…
…again, as i have said before, if i had to guess, at this point, i’d say the Mets will pursue other options at catcher, while considering lo duca to be a fall-back position, knowing how badly he wants to return…personally, i’d just re-sign him…i think his heart, pride and intensity is something this club should be built around, but i will understand if they go a different direction…i just can’t believe that direction could be torrealba…
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Multiyears for Torrealba?
No thanks.
my plan for the 2007 mets
1) sign livan hernandez to a 1yr deal with an option. reports say that him and his brother are dying to be on the same team together. (1yr between 7-10 million)
2) Trade with Cleveland. Mets get Shoppach, Cliff Lee and 1 of their relievers betancourt/perez/lewis for Heilman, MILLEDGE and a lower level prospect.
(the indians gave up on lee this past season, schoppach has no spot on the team because of martinez garko and hafner taking up 1b C and DH, and they need an outfielder and they get milledge as part of the package. if they will get our big prospect then the mets can acquire one of their stud young relievers. lee can be the next maine or perez for us)
3) Resign Castro
4) Trade with Toronto. Mets acquire Overbay and Burnett for Delgado, Humber and Gotay (they need a SS and i think Gotay can play short.
(delgado would most probably accept a trade to toronto, toronto gets a left handed power hitter (which they lack) to put in between wells and rios + they get a shortstop and young SP)
5) Trade Pelfrey to Tampa Bay for Baldelli
(risky trade because Baldelli is injury prone but if he every gets it together it would be a steal - tampa would do this because they are loaded with outfield talent and because hes injury prone)
6) Resign Castillo for 2nd base (2 years for 6-7 mil. each)
7) Offer arbitration to Glavine. If he accepts, he will get around 9 million, but very unlikely he’ll accept. If doesn’t accept we’ll get a draft pick for him.
Roster C- Castro and Shopach
1B- Overbay
2b- catillo
ss- reyes
3b- wright
LF- alou
CF- Beltran
Rf- Baldelli
lineup: reyes, castillo, wright, beltran, alou, overbay, baldelli, catcher
bench: anderson, chavez, easley, shopach/castro, blum
SP- pedro, perez, maine, burnett, Livan hernandez
- with cliff lee and el duque as replacements if any one of them get injured or need to skip a start (burnett or pedro)
RP -wagner, feliciano, betancourt/lewis or perez, smith, duaner sanchez, schoenweis or mota (only can be on the roster next year) padilla, lee and el duque
only the best of the bunch make the roster.
we dont sign any of the free agent pitchers for a ridiculous amount of years and money. it puts us in position to sign one of the big free agent pitchers next year.
How about this:
1) Somehow let Mota go. In any way possible.
2) Sign Linebrink, Castillo, Castro and Lo Duca
3) Either:
Trade Milledge and Heilman for Blanton and sign Fukudome to a 4 year deal.
OR
Trade Milledge, Heilman, Pelfrey, Humber and Gotay for Bedard and Roberts and possibly a little extra, sign Fukudome and start him in right.
OR
Trade Milledge, Heilman, Pelfrey and Humber for Miguel Cabrera. Add Gomez to the deal if they refuse. If the deal goes through, sign Carlos Silva to a 4 year deal.
why would baltimore want to trade bedard.
give it up, the mets wont be able to get any of the big time pitchers or hitters through trade.
the best they can possibly get is oswalt.
whats more realistic is blanton, burnett, etc
Bedard specifically said that he wanted out…
Does that qualify as a reason?
when did he say this?
you have a link?
and if he did want out, 25 other teams have better talent to give up than us.
for now, we have to settle for the blanton, burnett and oswalts
while the sanatana, bedard, kazmir and peavy are unreachable
Bedard is definitely a trade candidate. The O’s are desperate to dump salary. Obviously Tejeda’s on top of the list, but they are going into a rebuilding season after coming off a record setting payroll year in which they spend more than $20 million more than they had since 2000. Bedard’s going into his third arbitration year and is going to get a nice raise. Especially if the Mets could take more payroll of the O’s hands that they really just will look to shed, such as Ramon Hernandez or Chad Bradford, the Mets might be able to get their hands on a stud like Bedard, maybe even Brian Roberts.
I don’t see how you think Oswalt is available. Houston isn’t desperately looking to dump salary, and their in a division where a minor splash this offseason could make them contenders. The O’s however have absolutely no chance of contending, an will probably look to find some cheap, young talent that they can rebuild around.
I’d imagine Bedard as a possibility.
The Yankees are focused on Santana, and an in-division trade is unlikely.
If the Dodgers don’t get A-rod, they will make the deal for Cabrera.
The Rays and Marlins cant afford him
This is leaving Baltimore with very little trading partners. I think that Milledge, Pelfrey, Heilman, Gotay and Humber is a pretty compelling offer for Roberts and Bedard.
why wouldnt the Dodgers look to a trade for Tejada and slot him into 3B?
I dont think the Dodgers will be players for Arod because of the fractured Dodgers/Boras relationship over JD Drew .. Also I wouldnt be surprised if Torre recommends to take a pass..
The Dodgers certainly have the pieces to land Tejada.,
and i agree the yankees are focused on Santana.
Thats a lot of juice for Bedard and Roberts.. probably worth it though.
I agree about Peavy, Kazmir, and probably Santana (although as a rental he’ll probably be cheaper than say Peavy or Haren on the trade market), but the O’s are in a different situation with Bedard. His salary is going to pick up by at least $4 million arbitration or not, probably more. The O’s have no shot at contending in the AL East and should probably just give up on 2008, they may want to drop their opening day payroll by $10 million or more (it was over $90 million last season, a record setting figure by that amount and $20 million more than any season since 2000).
The Twins have a shot at competing, so trading the best pitcher in baseball is a dicey prospect, not to mention they held out on Tori Hunter this year. Its a similar situation with the Padres and Peavy except he’s not just a rental, he’s controlled through 2009. Haren is controlled through 2010, although the A’s will have a tough time competing unless they find some offense. But they’re not out of it before the season starts the way the O’s are. Kazmir is very young and on a team that really just needs a healthy dose of pitching to become a WC darkhorse even in the AL East.
The O’s however may use a stud like Bedard to try and pawn off some of their other expensive contracts. Ramon Hernandez and Chad Bradford both make sense and would fit with the Mets. Sure they’d have to give up some nice players, but the O’s don’t figure to be as desperate as some of the other teams for MLB ready talent. The Mets farm would take a hit, but even if its not in great shape as is, they’d also have a healthy early draft after gaining two picks on Glavine and one on LoDuca before round #2. If they can somehow send a bigger package for Roberts too, they’d get another supplemental pick for Castillo. Thats two first round and three sandwich picks, which could mean a very healthy draft class.
My source is Tim Dierke’s Needs and Luxuries column on his blog mlbtraderumors.com and Cot’s Baseball Contracts.
completely agree the O’s are in sell mode.. maybe the mets can pull off.
Milledge, Pelfrey, Heilman, Gotay and Humber
for
Bedard, Roberts and Bradford.
then wheel Tejada to the Dodgers for three of their top five prospects and they’re back in business.
tejada is not worth 3 out of their top 5
his power has gone down the past couple of years and keeps getting nagging injuries.
i have no doubt that tejada will be one of the guys on the mitchell report
in our case, tejada would probably be worth heilman and gotay
probably not worth that much.. but at a cheaper price he’s a bargain.. he definitely needs a change of scenery… except for his last year in Oaktown and last year hes right up there in production.. PEDs? maybe..
but 13 mil a year thru 09 is good for a 3B with power.. and St Joe can coax him to play.. plus the AL East connex.. I think its a good match for them
last year was injury and apathy
Dude, you are SERIOUSLY OVER-VALUING the Mets prospects. No way in hell the D-Rays trade Baldelli straight up for Pelfrey (even with Baldelli’s injury history)… and you might say throw in one of the OF prospects w/ Pelfrey, except TB is overflowing with OF prospects. It’d take 2-3 young pitchers to get Baldelli.
And Gotay as SS??? Everybody was complaining about his D at 2B, and you think Toronto will view him as a starting SS? So that leaves Delgado and Humber for Overrbay and Burnett — sound like an even trade to you??? This trade aint happening unless Omar takes the Blue Jays GM out for a few bottles of tequilla and then takes some black mail photos of him w/ a couple of farm animals… otherwise, it’s pure fantasy.
WHY!? lo duca can put up the smae numbers or better….better leader too. i rly hate this.
FIRE OMAR!
Certainly not helping his “los mets” mentality
He also put those numbers up in Coors Field…
Ugh. Stupidity.
1. torealba is a better defensive catcher than paul
2. yorvit is much younger and more athletic
i think a castro/yorvit platoon would be pretty sweet, lo duca may have some heart, but he can sure as heck whine alot
LoDuca talked his way out of town. It’s clear the Mets really had LoDuca as a fallback the whole time.
LoDuca isn’t coming back so people should stop hoping. He rubbed Met mgmt the wrong way with the things he was saying and his offensive and defensive skills have faded.
And Torrealba is a God.
lo duca is a punk and omar knows it. plus he calls an awful game. the great collapse started once loduca returned to the starting lineup
im not the biggest fan on lo duca myself, but i’m pretty sure the great collapse falls more on the pen and glavine. plus we had difilice and sandy alomar playing catcher at that time, i think he was better
Krusty, for YOU to say LoDuca whines alot, is like my wife complaining about another womans nagging.
there’s a difference between a metsblog poster saying he whines alot, and the catcher whining to the papers
Point taken
….and another uninspiring prospective deal kicks off our off season - bring back Ben Johnson !!!!
This makes absolutely NO sense at all.
If this happens I’ll be extremely disappointed, to say the very least.
Between his inane lust for Posada, and now this, I’m starting to seriously question what Omar is doing.
I found a page on ESPN the showed, of the qualified catchers, Yorvit Torrealba only had 4 passed balls last year, third in the league… LoDuca only had 2.
Yorvit’s Catcher Earned Run Average was 4.12, he was tied for seventh in the league… with Paul LoDuca.
Yorvit caught 15 base runners last year and gave up 61 for a .197 caught stealing percentage, LoDuca caught 22, and gave up 72 for a .234 caught stealing percentage. Both are quite low in comparison (Yorvit is the third lowest in the league in this category).
LoDuca hit .272 throughout the season, Torrealba hit .255.
My basic point, is I really am struggling to see how Torrealba would be any sort of an upgrade over LoDuca. Especially, given that LoDuca can probably be had for fewer years, and an actual UPGRADE may be had.
I can’t seem to make this make sense, and I feel that it’s not true.
Torrealba had a great post season, but it really wasn’t like he broke out and had a Beltran type post season, he was playing on a Red Hot team. I don’t buy this rumor, it doesn’t make sense.
Just thinking out loud, but given the fact that Yorvit played in Colorado (I know that there is a humidor, but it’s still a better hitters park than Shea) and effectively managed a young and upcoming pitching staff and great bullpen, that perhaps he handles a pitching staff better and more effectively than Paulie. If Rockies and Mets ERAs are the same, that’s an advantage for the Rox.
I like Lo Duca, I respect his toughness, but if we put all the blame for our collapse on our pitching staff, can’t the C take some blame as well?
And the Mets rotation an bullpen wasn’t a project either?