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During an appearance on WFAN, Daily News reporter Mark Feinsand said he believes free-agent 3B Alex Rodriguez will be back with the Yankees within the next four or five days.
Earlier today, Feinsand and Bill Madden of the Daily News, citing ‘a source with knowledge of the situation,’ wrote that the Yankees have re-opened negotiations with Rodriguez, adding that the team does not want his agent, Scott Boras, involved.
…Update…4:00 pm…
According to the Associated Press, the Yankees and Rodriguez met in New York today, and Boras was not involved.
…Update…4:02 pm…
At his website, ARod.com, Rodriguez writes…
“After spending time with Cynthia and my family over these last few weeks, it became clear to me that I needed to make an attempt to engage the Yankees regarding my future with the organization…As a result, I reached out to the Yankees through mutual friends and conveyed that message. I also understand that I had to respond to certain Yankees concerns, and I was receptive and understanding of that situation.
Cynthia and I have since spoken directly with the Steinbrenner family. During these healthy discussions, both sides were able to share honest feelings and hopes with one another, and we expect to continue this dialogue with the Yankees over the next few days.”
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It would nice to get this over with. A little tired of AROD/BORAS BarkyVonSchnouzer
Boy oh boy. Was all this really necessary?
Boras (or A-Rod) must have realized the A-Rod market wasn’t as big as he thought it would be.
You have to believe this is an effort to get other teams involved quickly.
i know you put the “buzz” in front of it, but careful with those headlines. first thing i saw was “ARod Back in Bronx” with no ? or anything and i thought the deal was done…
i wonder how yankees fans will react to this if he does return. they already were somewhat reserved and weary…
If these reports about the Yankees refusing to deal with Boras are true, it will be fascinating to see what happens to his clout if the Yanks do sign A-Rod at lesser money. Perhaps Boras has flown too close to the sun?
I doubt that A-rod would actually form a deal without Boras.
Especially with the way the front office reacted when he initially left.
Yes, I Love It. The soap opera that is the Yankees. That looks real good, Cashman says if the guy opts out we will not pursue him, yet they are pursuing him. Yankees = Joke
How a Yankee fan likes this guy after this debacle I’ll never know.
The Yaks resign Arod, we get Yorvit
YAY!
Yeah, we’re gonna be the 2nd class team in this area for quite awhile
Might just be a smoke screen. Who knows.
But, guaranteed if a team like the Angels or Mets was going to wade into the swamp, they will do it soon.
I like the idea of putting out a solid but not crazy (say, 6/180?) offer on the table with a short take it or leave it period. At least you get closure! Add 4 team option years, so Boras can claim it was for 10/300.
It does, however, point out a fundemantal difference between how the Yankees FO works, and the mets (and pretty much all the other teams).
You have a need, and the Stankees look for the best talent, and just write a huge check.
Everyone else agonizes over the cost, and moves on to plan b or C.
Is Posada better worth 4/54? No. Is he better than Torealba or loduca? yes.
Is A Rod worth 8/250? Maybe not. Is he better than Wilson betiment? oh Yeah.
And the big advantage of checkbook management is they still get the better talent, while having prospects to trade to go “over the top” (say, Santana).
Great point, I totally agree, especially for a large market team, like we’re supposed to be.
After all that , he’s gonna end up back with the Yankees? After the Cashman and Hank comments, to opting out, to all the news, etc…and he’s goin back? Wow. Weird.
The Yankees and their fans sold their soul a loooong time ago….
A lie like ‘we’re not going to negotiate if he opts out’ is just par for the course…
one can pray the Angels make a GREAT deal now…
from foxsports.com and kennnnnnny rosenthal!
The Yankees will be in violation of baseball’s collective-bargaining agreement if they exclude agent Scott Boras from their negotiations with his client, Alex Rodriguez.
“That clearly is a violation of the Basic Agreement,” Michael Weiner, the general counsel of the players’ union, told FOXSports.com on Wednesday.
“Once a player designates an agent, a club cannot refuse to meet with that agent.”
But if the agent does not demand to be there, then I don’t think there is a violation. If A-Rod tells Boras what to do instead of the other way around, and A-Rod wants to meet with the Yankees under their terms, then there is no problem if A-Rod tells Boras to stay away.
Exactly. the Yankees were basically asking A-Rod to beg and waive his right to an agent, and he did it..I lost more respect for him that way then when he follows Boras blindly.
C’mon, seriously? I have a lot more respect for A-Rod now. If he fired boras, I’d have even more.
Bill Madden is a shill for the steinbrenners..
Boras is playing Hank and Hal like a fiddle
“If Arod Opts out we will not negotiate with him” unless we realize that we have a chance to sign him and then we will negotiate.
As much as we may hate the Yankees at least they are doing everything they can to put the best product out there. What do we get? Yorvit and Carlos Silva Rumors, I dont know abou tyou but i cant wait for opening day.
I hope opening day never comes. The Yanks re-up the best player in baseball to their team that has made the playoffs all those years straight, has young highly-touted pitching prospects that will probably pan out, and they’re primed.
As for the Mets, they blew their best chance at winning in the past 2 decades, went with a do-nothing offseason to get over the hump, followed that up with the worst collapse in baseball history, and now we get an offseason of Yorvit and Silva.
Woopee.
I have never felt so low, so pessimistic, so unconfident about this organization as I do now. They refuse to spend money in draft slots so instead of getting premium talent, all we get are garbage players like Rustich. Look at the blurb about him on the bumper “he can emerge as a setup man in a couple of years” WOW that’s gonna get them to the promised land. The rest of the farm consists of 17 year olds that have as good a shot of not making it as they do stardom right now, they’re that far away.
This team is primed for another failure in 2008. All of the wild talk 2 years ago about the Mets becoming an elite organization was just a load. We’re back to laughingstock status. Our owners are stupid, and our GM is a sham. Even our new stadium is dedicated to another team.
We have nothing.
Thanks Omar.
mistermet?
it IS only the 3rd day of free agency so i cant go nuts yet, but if the offseason turns out the way youve described it as a “yorvit/silva” centered one then i will have to say i completely agree with you.
I love how dumb people are. Do you really think Boras misjudged the market. He is a laywer and this is a lawyer trick. He has arod contact the yankees by himself to open up the lines of comminication. He is going to get another 10 year guaranteed contract of 275 million dollars + get to stay with a contender. This deal is more than the last offer the yanks made.
I wouldnt even be surpised if arod opted out as payback to hicks for giving him the dumb contract in the 1st place.
Boras asking for 35 or 40 million was crazy they new they wouldnt get it. but they wanted to get a longer more lucrative deal.
Make no mistake about it AROD and boras no exactly what they are doing and what they want to accomplish.
You raise a good point – if the Yankees reach an agreement with A-Rod, they will have to do it without any of the Rangers money.
A-Rod confirmed that they are negotiating without Boras…
Sounds like A-Rod is coming back to the Yankees…
As long as A-Rod is talking with the Yankees now, he will do so under their terms. There will be no other offers coming from other teams. It will be a take it or leave it offer from the Yankees. And close to what they offered him a few weeks ago, but minus the Texas money.
A-Rod will once again be a Yankee soon. Thank god.
I don’t know what this is, but I know what its not, and its not ARod signing with the Yankees in 4-5 days. I mean, honestly, I am embaressed for humanity that ANYONE would fall for this.
#1. Not only does the CBA preclude Boras from being excluded from negotiations, but for all the money that Boras has made ARod, what motivation in hell would ARod have to stab him in the back? That Boras tricked him into leaving every child’s fantasy of playing for the Yankees? Absolutely ludicrous.
#2. Other teams have been permitted to make offers to ARod for TWO DAYS. This is going to drag out past the Super Bowl. You think they are going to jump the gun before anyone has a chance to even formulate an offer?
#3. Arod opted out just to crawl back 2 weeks later, sacrificing the leverage he sought in the first place? Someone explain this logic?
Again, this is nothing short of embarassing for everyone involved. How does “ARod met with the Yankees” become “expect this to be done in 4-5 days.”
I don’t know whether to laugh or to cry.
Or Or Or…..
Arod is playing the yankees again. We do not know what conversations are being had around the league right now about AROD. Certainly Boras can speak to the other 31 teams right?
This is how I see it…Boras is calling the few teams he thinks are really in the AROD sweepstakes right now. He gets those teams to think AROD is soon coming off the market as he is talking with his Yankees right now.. If you are going to strike with AROD, you need to come at us right now with your offer.
Then all the while AROD is dancing and batting his eyes in NY, the Angels put together a deal that gives him 8 yrs and $250M. In NY, Arod gets himself without the help of Boras a deal of 8 yrs and $225M from the Yanks.
Decision time then is up to AROD, you want the Angels, they are here at this number. Want the Yanks, they are here at this number. Arod chooses the Angels because that is where the money is
And the Yanks get burned twice by the same guy in one offseason. They go back on their word (We will not negotiate with AROD under any circumstance if he opts out).
They lose credibility around the league with the players and the teams. Plus they lose the player along the way getting spurned by him on two seperate occassions. In fact, this is brilliant strategy as it also makes the yanks offer likely to go higher. Stay with me….once AROD leaks that he wants back in with the Yanks, who comes out smelling bad if he does not get it done with them. NOt Arod…THe Yanks. They now have to present the biggest offer out of fear that the fan base that was upset when they lost him the first time is now jazzed about having him back only to lose out on him again because they did not pay him the most money.
Brilliant
Not to mention that they lose good will with Boras, who represents precisely the type of talent that the Yankees go after.
not sure how this will help them land teixera next year since we all assume they would be players in that. although i guess boras is soul-less and probably doesnt care whos money it is as long as its the most.
that exactly shows how completely stupid the steinbrenner kiddies are..
these neophyte sperm lotto winners are getting hosed in the worst way.
some of us are giving the yankee “brain” trust more credit than scott boras.
the rumors are already 40 mil higher than the yanks first offer and for 10 years vs. 8 and the 235 was including 30 from texas.. this 275 is all evil empire dough.
Boras wants a final offer from the yanks that doesnt include the texas subsidy..
Once he gets Hank and Hal to max out he has created a market and a minimum bid for a ten year contract — which is what he really wants.
Everyone else was expecting the yanks to get back in.. Boras gave them a way to get back in with this phoney 3rd party mea culpa.
Now that the yanks will give their “final answer” he can go to the other players and start the real negotiation.
No one would make a bid knowing the yanks could come back in at the last minute and counter knowing they are desperate for the big bat.
Once the two pee-ons Hank and Hal say 10/275 take it or leave it everyone else knows the market
350 was a bargaining point.. not reality. boras has orchestrated all this brilliantly
totally agree. What a deviously brilliant rich smart guy. I wish I could think like that
John Sterling was just on Mike and Mad Dog and stated with his usual Yankee authority that A-Rod is a done deal and they want to announce A-rod and Mariano Rivera together…
He said that his source, when asked the chances between 1 and 100 to sign A-Rod said it’s 101… It’s done…
Hey, if the Yanks are really talking only with ARod, great time for us to swoop in with our “best offer.” I don’t care if it ends up being a bargaining chip that helps ARod drive the price for the Skanks higher. We should set a number, make a convincing case, appeal to his past (still think they should have Mex take him out for “dinner” (AKA Scores) and say, “you’ve got 10 days on this, and we move on.”
Maybe this is what we’re doing. Maybe we want nothing to do with this. But this guy is too good not to spend a couple of days focusing on, and then moving on.
No, there were stories at the time of the opt out that the Yankees were willing to go higher. I can find a link if anyone wants. They even gave amounts. I bet that their final offer will be extremely close if not identical to amounts mentioned in those stories a few weeks ago.
Also, while I’m not sure, I think it is NOT a violation of the CBA if the client (A-Rod) does not request his agent to be there. If is only a violation if A-Rod wants Boras there and the Yankees exclude him.
I have to give A-Rod credit for at least swallowing his pride and admitting he was wrong. Also for getting mad at Boras and leaving him out of the final negotiations. Maybe he is finally growing up.
And the offer will be minus the $21 million.
but the point is the yanks have their pants around their ankles right now..
they’re going to bid without the subsidy which is what boras wanted all the time.. he wants to create a market.. Arod is smelling like a rose in this.. even you said it – “swallowing his pride and admitting he was wrong”
Sterling is a complete and utter moron.. he’s another mouthpiece for Yank-ezzera
I think they won’t pull out of this… I think A-Rod will sign with them and make the Yanks look like a bunch of morons…
Morons that want to win a World Series…
Yanka zerrra….Way too funny.
Biggie, you’re still delusional. There will be no open bidding. No other teams are jumping in. Boras saw at the GM meetings that no other teams were serious about coming close and that was the clincher for A-Rod. I believe even before the GM meetings he regretted the opt-out. But the disinterest in him clinched it.
You can say the Yanks have their pants around their ankles, but I bet most are viewing it just the opposite. A-Rod has serious egg on his face — and worse. And Boras looks awful. Plain awful.
As I said, I credit A-Rod for at least starting to salvage his image, standing up for himself, and sticking it to Boras.
how do you know there was no interest? were you at the meetings?
there is a very small market for his services. maybe 4 teams. there is no “Open Bidding” ./ of course .
the players are being coy.. they are waiting for the first bid… its negotiation 101.
Arod is looking so rosey in this YOU are even giving him crediting.. Boras is paid to be the villain.
I always believed this would not be a long drawn out process.. Once Hank and Hal show their hand the players Boras has lined up will give their bids and a decision will be made.. this will all be wrapped up by tnxgiving
yankeeland wont come back with a counter or they will look like total arses — of course they are so they may.
“Cynthia and I have a foundation with the club” — yeah .. when she’s wearing F-u shirts in the stands.
Because if there were serious interest, it would be reported. Instead we got reports of all these clubs saying they were not interested or were more interested in Cabrera.
And we got reports that it seemed so bad for Boras and A-Rod that the Mets might be left as reluctant front-runners (John Harper).
And when I said there is no open bidding, I did not mean public bidding. I should have said there is no active bidding at all (as opposed to under the table bidding when the teams were not allowed to discuss $$).
Sure A-Rod is looking better now. Because he admitted his mistakes. He showed humility and common sense for once and he came crawling back to the Yankees on his hands and knees.
He will sign with the Yankees soon. There will be no negotiations on price. They made their offer. He will accept. And there will no other offers from other teams.
It’s done, Biggie. Get over it.
of course everything that is reported is always the truth and everyone shows their hands to reporters.. i forgot that
there is no active bidding because everyone was waiting for the elephant in the room to give their final answer..
If you think Boras is that dumb to let his largest client just crawl back to the yankees then you have made your opinion known..
I give him much much more credit than that.
Everyone who he met with probably expressed their interest level and said keep me in your speed dial when u get a bid.. NOW he has a bid.. without the yankees no one would drop the first stone.
But that’s all we have to go on — the reports in the press. If you can’t believe them, then don’t believe anything. Then don’t believe Metsblog either. Don’t believe A-Rod is even a free agent. He never opted out, ok?
Do you seriously believe there will be multiple bids now? C’mon Biggie. Get back down to earth.
Boras has no choice. A-Rod hired him. Not the other way around. If A-Rod wants to grovel at the Steinbrenner brothers’ feet, that’s his call. Not Boras.’ Of course we know that in the past A-Rod would do just about anything Boras would tell him to do. But maybe he’s grown up a little now and is deciding his own fate for once. And if so, again, Boras has no choice.
There will be no other bids. No other teams. It’s over. Get over your Boras worship. He’s human. And he really f^cked up here.
That M&MD can’t get a better source than Sterling says it all.
How long did it take his wife to wake him up from his nap?
Done deal. Hilarious. They want to announce him and Mo together. And why is that? Tell us, John, from the Lowe’s Broadcasting Booth: Let’s Build something Toge-thah.
OH MY GOODNESS I CANNOT BELIEVE IT!!!! AROD IS RETURNING FROM HIS BREAK FROM THE YANKEES!!!!
IN ALL MY LIFE I HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING THIS AMAZING!!!!!!
/Channeling Suzy Steinbrenner
those two imbecile winners of the sperm lottery have no idea how bad they are being played.
So 3 days into the process Arod is home in Miami wondering how he’s going to pay his rent and lamenting that no one loves him..
He goes behind his agent’s back – who he’s had a relationship with for all his adult life.. and says OK.. Il talk to you too without my big mean agent in the room..Im soooo sorry.. please take me back.. I love stuck up pompous yankee land .. i cant get anyone else to pay me..
come on…boras has him so wired up he could get electrocuted… guy is a friggin Svengali.
So if ARod pulls a Sheffield and negotiates his own contract, does he have to pay Boras? If no, Bora cut (6%, 10%) will make up that amount Texas would have had to pay, so it is a win win for Yansk/ARod. Both save face. Two days into Free Agency and I am sick to my stomach.
the yanks cant deny him representation.. they can request a meeting with him without his agent in the room.. which they did and apparently he agreed to.
Boras is still his agent unless Arod fires him..
and if Boras wasn’t REALLY behind this .. why wouldn’t he quit when his client is negotiating behind his back?
or why wouldnt Arod – who is sooo upset with how things have progressed — fire the big bad wolf who brought this all on?
its all so staged it could play on Broadway.
They can’t deny him if he requests it. But apparently he didn’t. So there is no violation. Case closed.
No matter how it is perceived, that A-Rod has matured and wants to go into the HOF as a member of the “greatest franchise in the history of sports” or that he slithered back to the Yankees like a baby trying to re-enter its mama’s womb it is a winning situation for the Yankees. The Yankees will have plugged what would have been a huge hole in their lineup with the best player in baseball. The Yankees can now trade their young talent for Santana. So you claim the Yankees lose credibility. Like the Yankees really care. They know the fans that bashed A-Rod will welcome him back embracing him like a cheap prostitute. Meanwhile the Yankees will continue to be in the post season drawing over 4 million a year with enormous revenue sources. This is professional sports. It is not a morality tale.
that all assumes that Arod really wants to go back to yankyland
He doesnt get along with Jeter, his wife wears F-U shirts in the stands.. its the equivalent of the gestapo with all the stupid rules…Im sure he cant wait to get back…
Maybe they still have their prospects to trade for Santana, but I don’t think they will. And in the meantime, they will now have overpaid for Posada and A-Rod, and they will have spent a bundle on Rivera. They now have less money to offer Santana when he becomes a free agent after next season. So I see this as a plus.
the yankees have LESS money, thats a good one. if the yankees sign arod, maybe they wont trade for santana but you can guarantee he’ll be a yankee in 09 giving them the best player and pitcher in the game. We can all sit here and mock the soap opera, and bash the members of their FO but like it or not what ever it is theyre doing has worked a hell of alot better than whatever strategy we have here in queens.
I really don’t understand why you are guaranteeing that Santana will be a Yankee. There’s no such guarantee. I wouldn’t even call them a front runner.
And you know what they’re doing? They’re spending about $100M more than the Mets each year on payroll. That’s their big secret. And all that got them this year was 1 more postseason win than the Mets got. Whoopty-doo.
The model for success right now is the Red Sox. Not the spendthrift Yankees.
I guess the phrase “pride of the yankees” can stopped being used because this team has no pride
Is anyone else as excited as I am? Not only do the Mets not sign Arod, but both Arod and the Yankees are shown to have to pride or class, and Boras just looks ridiculous. Just about the Best Case Scenario if you ask me.
Arod’s off the market and our catchers are taken care of. Can we please now focus on the more pressing needs of this team?
That was no pride or class, obviously
Biggie is real excited now because he saves the money he had already allocated for a new Mets/A-Rod jersey!
:smile:
the best part t is when the evil empire gets left standing at the alter after Boras plays them for the fools they are.
stay tuned.
VCarver, this is what I was talking about the other day. I bet Arod took a step back and looked at the whole situation with Boras and how he is percieved because of what Boras does and said, “enough of this BS”.
Also, for the record there is a poster named 7train who is not me.
7-train, do you mean when you talked about the svengali effect?
Yup, you were right. And then I said he’s 32 and should be able to stand up on his own by now. Well maybe this is a sign that he’s finally starting to do it. Good for him. I think he should fire Boras, and Rosenthal said that A-Rod’s friends were urging him to do that. They are a toxic combination together. A-Rod needs someone who really has his best interests at heart. Who can guide him better. Boras has been terrible for him. Oh, of course he’s been great for A-Rod’s wallet. But just terrible for him reputation, which is something money can’t buy. Any agent would have done decently for A-Rod in the money department. But he needed someone with better judgment than Boras who would have also cared about A-Rod’s legacy and image in the game.
I now know there is a “7TrainLocal” and you, but are you saying there is also a plain “7train” too? If so, no wonder I’ve gotten confused. I differentiate you from “7TL” by your positions on Bannister — he defends that trade but you were not for it. I wonder where “7train” comes out on that one, lol. Too confusing!
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t you essentially saying that “the more things change, the more they stay the same?”