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In an article for the New York Times, Ben Shpigel writes that Omar Minaya is willing to trade away some of the organization’s young talent if he could acquire a potential ace in return.
Minaya as quoted by Shpigel:
“There’s no doubt that our premium prospects are very well-liked…We could be players in some of the trades this winter. The way that pitching is in this market, you’re going to have to part with some premium guys.”
…improving the pitching staff has to be omar’s primary focus this offseason, and he will likely have to trade away the likes of Lastings Milledge, Mike Pelfrey and/or Carlos Gomez to do so…however, i hope that omar will not make a trade just to make a trade - and so i don’t see him dealing any of the above names unless it is part of a package deal and for a bona fide ace, which there are few of on the market…
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“There’s no doubt that our premium prospects are very well-liked…We could be players in some of the trades this winter. The way that pitching is in this market, you’re going to have to part with some premium guys.”
This is rich….what “premium” prospects do we have besides Milledge or Gomez, one of whom we have to keep?
MLBtraderumors mentioned Beane asking for Maine, Milledge and Heilman for Haren…I don’t know that I’d do Haren for Maine straight up…Haren might have better stats, but Maine has come up big in a few money situations in NY the past 2 years…Maine is basically where Haren was a year or two ago – it wouldn’t surprise me to see him put together a few 200 innings +/3.6 ERA / 15 win seasons now that he’s built up some arm strength and confidence.
Anything short of Oswalt is not worth trading Maine for, IMO…
Of course that’s what Beane wants. Start high and work down from that.
I think that Milledge, Heilman, Pelfrey/Humber could get it done. Maybe throw in another lower tier prospect to ice it.
Milledge alone would be a coup for Beane. It’s a shame they didn’t hold onto Bannister, because he would have been a perfect guy to include. Tell me Milledge, Bannister, and Heilman doesn’t get this deal done easy?
Anyway, Milledge gives Beane tremendous value because he would be under control for a while and I think he breaks out this year. With Pelfrey/Humber and Heilman he would have some major league caliber swing men at worst. At best, he would be getting a potential front end starter and a top flight set-up man.
Exactly why do we want to trade a break out OF that is cheap for years to come, a front end starter and a top flight set up man for 1 SP? Knowing Beane, he will break down by June anyway!
I trust Omar will bring a young ace. Berdard or Haren. and will sign Livan hernadez.
Haren or bedard
Pedro
Perez
Maine
Livan
I like that rotation
Dude, if he brings Bedard or Haren I’ll build a shrine to him
If we offer good value for Haren, Beane will pull the trigger. The guy always makes the smart baseball move.
I would help you build that shrine. Either Bedard or Haren would be fine by me. In that order.
just like last year, i’m almost positive no true proven ace will be moved, so instead of trying to get maybe a proven number 3 like a blanton he’ll just pack it up and have el duque as the number 4
no blanton. certainly not for milledge. that trade is a steal for the A’s
I’ll pay for their airfare to Minnesota.
wait… someone likes our prospects? Is he trying to up their value or is it possible that we Mets fans are actually wrong about how crappy our prospects are?
wait… someone likes our prospects? Is Omar trying to inflate their value or is it possible that Mets fans are actually wrong about how terrible our prospects are?
Probably a little bit of both.
I can see it now . . . Milledge and Pelfrey for Blanton. Crap.
run Omar out of town for that deal.
oh my god if that trade was made move over jim duquette youre off the hot seat
Alban, why did you bother writing the same post twice, with a few words changed? kinda weird…
because the first post was originally blocked because of the word “cra-py.” I had to repost without that word.
Well, if pitching is at such a premium, then you almost have to keep Pelfrey, etc. Otherwise you are shooting yourself in the foot.
Trading Gomez for a pitcher works for me though. That is trading from a strength/excess to fill a need.
Some of the trade ideas tossed out here from posters are a bit short sided (Pelf/Humber/Heilmann and Mulvey for 1 guy?)
Maybe Omar really doesn’t know what he is doing, and he had us fooled all this time? That is a scary thought.
And expensive for Cerrone. Think of all the “in Omar we trust” T-shirts he must have getting dusty in the basement!
but when that one guy is erik bedard a guy that will instantly make you the favorite in the NL figuring we make a few other smaller moves. you have to do that trade. look how great hanley ramirez has turned out for florida, sure boston would love to have his bat but do you think theyd go back and reverse that trade if they could? not in a million years.