Matthew Cerrone
Buzz: Mariano Rivera Ready for Yankees
By Matthew Cerrone - Nov 17, 2007 7:23 pm

According to the New York Post, Mariano Rivera is finally expected to sign a three-year, $45 million offer from the Yankees.

…hat tip to peter w for the link…

BallHype: hype it up!
Posted in Mariano Rivera on November 17th, 2007
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Comment by BSMITTYFDNY
2007-11-17 19:37:54

That stinks. I had a small part of me that thought maybe, just maybe Omar would surprise us and get him. A one two punch of the two “Sandman” would have been great, but oh well. Now lets bring back LoDuca, or sign Barrett, or trade for a package of Bedard, Ramon Hernandez, and Bradford from the O’s.

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Comment by plummetdown
2007-11-17 20:19:39

NEW YORK MESS.

Yankees resigned a-rod. resigned rivera, got posada, and have enough $$ to get lowell?

and the mets dissappointed we couldnt get the rey ordenez of catching.

welcome to mets 2000.

mets CANT TAKE THAT EXTRA STEP.

they never will….

with our luck…

YANKEES WILL GET SANTANA. and mets will get eckstein.

WHY IS IT THAT THE YANKEES AND RED SOX…HAVE BETTER PROSPECTS THEN THE METS?

METS USUALLY HAVE THE HIGHER PICKS.

ITS BECAUSE THEY DONT WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY IN DRAFT PICKS.

AND WANT TO SPEND IT ON MEDICORE PITCHING/CATCHING.

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Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2007-11-17 21:01:47

Just because Omar went a half step down on the offense of our 7 hitter, only to go a full step up with his pitch calling doesn’t mean he isn’t going to take a big leap. Prefering Eckstein to Castillo is like preferring butter to… butter!

They are pretty much the same exact player.

Omar specifically said that there would be no big moves before Winter Meetings, and it is a plus that he is being secretive.

Sure, the Mets didn’t get A-rod. Whoopee. Anyone with a brain knew that A-rod would be an unnecessary, and that Omar wouldn’t make a huge push for him. Same with Posada and Rivera.

But pitching is available via trade, and Silva can be a fallback option. Lincecum, Blanton and Bedard could be within reach of the Mets.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 21:07:19

Exactly. There is no one on the pitching market that we can just throw a ton of money at who will give this team what it needs.

All upgrades must come through trades… and trades take more time to negotiate than: “hey, we’ll give you a TON of money if you sign with us instead of them.”

 
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Comment by genius
2007-11-17 22:25:00

well said

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Comment by icedrake523
2007-11-17 22:37:23

The Yankees’ prospects aren’t always better. Overhyped? Absolutely. Better? Not always.

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Comment by sheahey1184
2007-11-17 22:09:38

why is that being posted on metsblog.com? we were never going to get him and thats not relevant to the mets in any way shape or form. Please do tell us when the Royals and Rays re-sign pitchers, its the same thing.

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Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2007-11-17 22:25:09

The Mets aren’t getting Hernandez, Bradford AND Bedard.

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Comment by RespectDaBestRM
2007-11-17 19:48:04

at the beginning of the offseason, it looked like the yankees were readying themselves for an awful offseason.
well, the tides the turned and the mets are having one.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 21:00:53

Yup, pretty terrible 2 days of free agency we’re having.

I know you can’t tell, but I’m rolling my eyes.

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Comment by mrose
2007-11-17 21:12:42

dude, seriously? The Yankees have made a big splash in their wallets but lets look..OH WAIT ITS THE SAME TEAM AS LAST YEAR THAT DIDN’T GET OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND!

Wow…

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Comment by RespectDaBestRM
2007-11-17 21:51:07

no, its just that in the beginning it arod opted out and everyone thought he was gone.
then rivera said something about torre leaving.
posada was suppose to go test the free agent market.
andy pettite opted out and might be retiring.

thats the way it looked in the beginning.
now they have solved the 1st 3.

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Comment by Trumpzilla
2007-11-17 22:09:46

At least they MAKE the first round….

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Comment by Web
2007-11-17 20:01:47

Good to see all of these Yankees (Mo, Posada, A-Rod) showed loyalty to Joe Torre.

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Comment by plummetdown
2007-11-17 20:25:33

its all about the $$$$…lets be real….

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Comment by RespectDaBestRM
2007-11-17 20:42:45

yankees just gave out about 350 million dollars to 3 players.

when the mets spent all that money when minaya came in, pedro, beltran, etc. that was about 200 million dollars with all the moves that offseason.
its just amazing.
over the last 2 years, floyd, trachesal, valentin, green, glavine,bradford, lo duca were let go.
thats about 30-40 million
what have the mets spent it on?
alou, mota and schoenweis.
come on, omar has to wake up and make a splash.
trade for santana or bedard and lock them up.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 21:05:48

Who did you want them to make a “splash” with exactly?

Floyd, Trachsel, Green, Valentin, Glavine, and now LoDuca were all washed up. Kaput. Why spend dollars on them? And Bradford is a middle reliever… not a huge difference maker.

For the record, the Alou signing has been a good one. He is a bargain and he rakes when he plays.

Back to my original point. Pedro and Beltran were the big fishes in ‘05… Mets got ‘em. Wagner was their target in ‘06. Got him AND traded for LoDuca and Delgado. Last year they went with a big bid for Dice-K, but the Red Sox blew everyone away with a ridiculous offer. Nothing they could do. Then, when they evaluated the market, they didn’t find anyone worth big dollars. Zito stunk and was a horrible investment by San Fran. Sure, Meche and Lilly turned in fine campaigns, but they were far from marquee players or sure things.

In short, what exactly do you want the Mets to do?

And who cares about the guys the Yankees just resigned? ARod aside, Rivera and Posada are just names. Their best days are behind them.

 
Comment by TilMetsDoUsPart
2007-11-17 21:14:21

You say Alou like its a bad thing….

It’s not the money you spend that matters… The Yankees proved that… It’s the quality of your players.

And yes, the Mets do need 1 or 2 starters to bolster the quality of their players.

They could get Bedard for Pelfrey, Humber, Heilman and Milledge and sign Iguchi, Lo Duca, Fukudome and Silva.
They could get Lincecum for Milledge, Delgado, Heilman and Pelfrey, and sign Casey, Eckstein, Torrealba and Linebrink.
They could get Blanton for Milledge and Heilman and sign Bradley, Castillo, and Molina.

Of course I am being creative, but there are many opportunities at many positions for the Mets.

 
Comment by M3TS4L1F3
2007-11-17 21:29:25

Alou was a bad thing cause he barely played and cost us a draft pick

 
Comment by M3TS4L1F3
2007-11-17 21:30:34

and there are no way any of you trades happen except the Blanton one but Blanton is not worth that

 
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Comment by ReyesRocks
2007-11-17 21:27:30

I really don’t think that Mariano was ever even an option. Nor a necessity. He’s a closer. We already have one.

Same goes for A-Rod. We already have a Third Baseman.

Posada was asking way too much in terms of years, the Mets didn’t need that type of deal hanging on.

The Yankees are creating the exact same team that lost to the Indians except a year older. It’s not like they’re “splashes” are making them better. They’re just spending money like the Yankees do.

Neither player was really necessary.

Castillo or Ekstein, I go for Ekstein. He’s a nice, hard working player, and “rumors” of Ekstein hurting Reyes’ attitude will be none existent. He’ll play hard, every game. He’s the little guy you root for, and LaRussa LOVED how he played. He’ll be great for this team.

Torrealba was my first choice for catcher. His defensive numbers (except for last year) were super. Everything I’ve read leads me to beleive the Mets pulled out. I think it’s one of two things, a) the physical lead them to beleive the “arm problems” from last year weren’t getting or going to get better, or some other health issue, or b) a trade option has opened up.

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Comment by ReyesRocks
2007-11-17 21:36:51

I’ve posted this before, but the Seattle Mariners have Johjima and an absolutely OUTSTANDING prospect catcher (Jeff Clement) who’s major league ready.

If by anyway possible, the Mets should go ALL OUT for Jeff Clement, but as an after thought, Johjima may be available in a trade. He puts up good numbers, his CERA isn’t so great, but neither has his pitchers been.

Defensively Johjima threw out .465 percent. He seems good. Not as good as Clement who’s absolutely outstanding, but because of the two, one could certainly be had I think.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 21:42:52

I wouldn’t mind Mathis from the Angels.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 21:31:22

Anyone who wants to know why spending big $$ on relievers who are not big time closers should read this: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/tom_verducci/11/13/padres.relief/1.html

Kevin Towers is a brilliant man. I’ve been saying #1 to my dad and brother for the longest time.

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Comment by stickguy
2007-11-17 23:08:10

Good points, I agree with his approach.

#1 you can extend to your own organization. Pretty uch what the Mets did with Heilmann.

A corollary might be using your future starts out of the pen to begin with. Johan Santana started that way!

ANd, just becasue yo uconvert a starter, doesn’t mean he can’t go back.

For the Mets, if they pick up a couple of new starters, makes perfect sense to use Pelfrey out of the pen, at least to start the year. He can always come back, or do it in 2009.

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Comment by squad
2007-11-17 23:38:51

EXACTLY! I am a firm believer in breaking guys in via the pen. Johan, Pedro, Liriano, etc have all done this. Billingsley did it this year.

It’s a great way to let young pitchers learn how to get MLB hitters out and build up their confidence, while monitoring their innings.

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Comment by stickguy
2007-11-18 09:23:24

would have worked with Humber last September I bet.

 
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Comment by Trumpzilla
2007-11-17 21:56:10

great job Mutts! You can’t even nail down a lousy C, and totally let the BEST closer available go without even an offer. He could’ve been pried away, but props to Omar for wasting his time working on this nonexistant deal for pitching he’s brainwashing all of you into thinking will happening

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Comment by ReyesRocks
2007-11-17 22:01:22

Are you in “the loop”? How do you know there wasn’t an offer? Maybe, just maybe, Rivera said to Omar, “hey thanks, but I’m really not interested in being a set up man,’

Instead of just pissing and moaning for the sake of it, why don’t you just be a Yankees fan. You can root for Rivera all you want

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Comment by Trumpzilla
2007-11-17 22:06:10

How do you know there wasn’t an offer? Maybe, just maybe, Rivera said to Omar, “hey thanks, but I’m really not interested in being a set up man,

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL yeah right, Mariano would tell Omar to not even bother making an offer, when he’s sitting out there looking for more years or money than the current Yank offer. What you said is asinine. Try again. And change your name to ReyesPopsUp.

Instead of just pissing and moaning for the sake of it, why don’t you just be a Yankees fan. You can root for Rivera all you want

Yeah, I’m angry just for the sake of it, heaven forbid that after a collapse like 2007 I get annoyed for them wasting time with scrubs like Yorvit and Eckstein instead of going after actual helpful players.

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Comment by ReyesRocks
2007-11-17 22:20:38

I didn’t say Reviera wouldn’t want to have an offer made, I said Reviera wouldn’t want to be a set up man. And Wagner wouldn’t either.

And, please list the helpful players. Posada and A-Rod? Some mystery man no one has heard of?

Feel free to list the players we should aquire that would “be helpful”. I’m very interested to hear your point.

IMO Yorvit (with a healthy arm) WOULD be helpful defensively. AND Eckstein is the type of player that is fun to root for, he works hard, he gives it his all, he hits above .300, he’d be a great 2 hole hitter, and a good part of the clubhouse.