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According to MLB.com, Phillies’ shortstop Jimmy Rollins has won the 2007 National League MVP Award. Rockies’ outfielder Matt Holliday, came in second place.
David Wright finished in fourth place behind Prince Fielder, and received no first place votes.
…ouch…i regrettably have to say that he talked a big game before the season started and backed it up…this certainly helps to kick a Mets fan when he is down…sour grapes aside, i personally would have voted for holliday who propelled the rockies into the post-season and then, after the fact, on to the world series…
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Wright deserved it more than Rollins, but thus ends the complete shafting of Holiday (and the Rox).
I think I’m going to be sick…..
Rollins deserved it.
Yes, he did, based on clutch hits alone. Bottom line, Ro put his moner where his mouth is, where during the slide David kept saying “We’ve gotta pull out of this”, while going down with the ship. I agree that if David caught fire and the Mets got to the playoffs, maybe it would be a different story. Maybe David will be hungrier now.
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holliday had 11 hrs on the road and hit 100 pts lower on the road
if mets won the division, wright would have won.
with the phillies winning the division, the voters got it right
First and Foremost, Holliday got robbed. He led in almost every offensive category and was a huge factor in that wild Rockies run. I’m not trying to be bias because I hate Philly, but can somebody please stop adding more awards to the philly’s trophy case.jeeeeeeez Rookie of the Year, Homerun Derby Winner, 2 MVPs.
And oh yes, Abreu’s 2005 Homerun Derby Award
yes holliday brought them to the ws but the vote takes place at the end of the season…wright was 4th if you didn’t know
Apparently Holliday’s heroics in game 163, and the Rockies play from game 140 on doesn’t matter.
I’m not sure exactly what Rollins did that Holliday didn’t, considering Matt led Jimmy in pretty much every statistic….Maybe BBWAA used the Coors Field Factor (TM), but I’m pretty sure that Philly is a launching pad too.
ugghh.. Omar make the pain stop!!!!
Rollins had a monster season. I like Wright, but you have to give credit where it’s due.
Rollins’ season looks monstrous largely because he hit a lot of HR at home. He’s not even the MVP of his own team. Don’t get me wrong — he had a great (career) year — but he won because (1) he hit 30 HR, (2) the Mets collapsed, (3) Utley was hurt, and (4) nobody trusts offensive stats from Coors.
Comparing the two leagues’ respective MVPs shows you what a joke the NL has become. . . .
Both players carried their teams down the stretch and led them to the playoffs.
Holliday led the league in both average and RBI, becoming the forst player to do that in 40 years. He also led the league in hits, total bases and doubles. How does a player that accomplished all that not win?
Rollins won by batting under .300 (.296) and hitting 30 HR’s in a ballpark that equates to a little league field. He had an excellent season, but I can’t see him as the MVP.
Not to mention he led baseball in HRs and RBI in September, with his team fighting for its playoff life, and had a huge hit in their one-game “playoff,” which does count for this award.
Aside from today, when was the last time an MVP award given to a player who batted below .300?
A Rod in 2003 with a .298. Before that the NL had a string in the late 80s…Schmidt, Dawson, Mitchell..
recent mvps that hit under .300:
2003 Alex Rodriguez
TEX .298/.396/.600
1989 Kevin Mitchell
SFG .291/.388/.635
1988 Kirk Gibson
LAD .290/.377/.483
1987 Andre Dawson
CHC .287/.328/.568
1986 Mike Schmidt
PHI .290/.390/.547
yea but even with it not including post season play come on holliday led the NL in avg, rbi, doubles, not to mention a +400 avg down the stretch which helped carry his team to the playoffs. this is absolutely pathetic im sorry rollins did not deserve this even with the injury utley was their mvp.
The fact that he talked the talk about being the team to beat and it actually coming true helped his cause. If he doesn’t make those comments, he might not have won it.
im not discrediting what youre saying but if that is true its pretty sad.
Yep, sadly, voters remember that stuff. When a guy talks and then backs it up, it sticks in peoples minds. Voters probably thought, “Hey, this is the guy who had the gall to declare his team the best and we all laughed at him, and he turned out to be right.”
rollins is a great player and deserved to win.
How’s that Philly cheese sandwich, cheese eater?
Cheese Steak? I don’y know. I’m from NY !
I’m not saying that Wright didn’t have any big hits in September, But a collapse like the Mets had should never happen if the “MVP” is on your team.
Once again … the Mets’ collapse was about pitching. Pitching. Bullpen meltdown and starters getting rocked in crucial games. if we’d had one reliable go-to guy in the pen down the stretch, Rollins would not have been voted MVP.
The collapse was about pitching, especially the bullpen - blown leads against the Nationals anyone? That being said the Mets needed more offense consistently throughout the season.
I agree, it was the pitching. But whatever the reason, a memorable collapse does not produce an MVP.
maybe, but it sure seems lousy to have two October chokers as your MVPs.
“I’m not saying that Wright didn’t have any big hits in September, But a collapse like the Mets had should never happen if the “MVP” is on your team.”
HUH?? But apparently you can finish in last place in your division and have the MVP on your team as the Rangers did in 2003.
It is called an opinion….But comparing a player who won the MVP on a bad team with one that was on a team that blew a big lead is a bit different.
A Rod hit .298 in ‘03…..
Gotta give it up for J-Roll. He carried that team…D Wright might have gotten more votes had the team not blown a 7 game lead with 17 to play….might not be his fault, but its certainly fair.
He did not carry the team — he just happened to stay healthy. Utley and Howard were both more important to the offense.
Utley missed a month, Rollins missed 17 innings the whole season……Howard had more K’s in big spots than HR’s…every time J ROll came up with the game on the line, he delivered…and stole 41 bases in 47 tries….and played gold glove defense…but you’re right, Chaz will get it next year!
Well, we all know what “Gold Gloves” mean. It’s another way of saying he hit 30 HR. But, I will grant you that he went into the hole a couple times last season for the first time as a professional.
Yes, Utley missed a month, which is why he didn’t win. He had a bunch of months better than Rollins, however. Although Rollins was a constant, at no time was he the best player on the field or in the lineup. He’s pretty much a default MVP. Jump down my throat, but I’m the one guy who thinks Rowand was every bit as important.
If you want to know who really came up big in the biggest games (i.e., against the Mets), it was Jayson Werth and J.C. Romero. And, yeah, Rollins played pretty well in those games, too. . . . grumble. . . .
ANYWAY, I have no problem with this insofar as it smacks the Mets right in the chops. I keep holding out hope that someone on the team (preferably a pitcher, but we couldn’t hit the Phillies, either) has news-clippings about this award, the Phillies’ dominance of the Mets, etc. taped up in his weight room and will run out on the CBP field like a man possessed the next time these teams meet. I actually hope it’s 25 guys. . . . .
Then again, after last year’s debacle, I’ll never underestimate the capacity of certain players to yank out the cord after their fifteenth “wake-up call.”
Without Holliday the Rox would not have had their fabulous run. He carried them to the WC with clutch hit after clutch hit (and slide). The Phils didn’t have a fabulous run and they shouldn’t have gone to the playoffs.
But the collapse did happen. And Rollins did back up every word that came out of his mouth. He talked a huge game, but came up huge as well.
This is just the final insult to injury that was the 2007 Mets season. But Jimmy Rollins earned this thing fair and square.
Now it’s time for the Mets to be the gunners, so D-Wright can take the award next year.
Who came in third place?
I’m going to guess Prince Fielder.
Right…forgot about him.
All I know id Rollins is a good player..I hate him but he is solid….I cant even count how many times in the last 2 weeks of the season he hit a game tying or winng shot.
*is, *winning
holliday had more hits (4), doubles(12), hrs(6), rbis (43), walks (14), BA (.44), OBP (.61), SLG (.76) and his OPS was 1.012 vs .875 from rollins…..honestly enough with this whole “give credit to philly” garbage. we all know david wright didnt quite deserve it, BUT matt hollidays team made the playoffs because of matt holliday, far and away the best hitter in the league.
I think Jimmy Rollins is a terrific all around player. I really think he is special. But your analysis clearly says it all. How can Holliday not have won it? It is a total farce. Every major category offensively went to Holliday but yet….the award goes to Rollins.
I realize park factored into the discussion here but are the baseball writers or whoever votes the MVP not aware of the Philly bandbox? It is just as friendly and likely more friendly than Coors to hitters now that Denver is humidifying their balls.
Please. Great job this year from Rollins. Awesome player. But not MVP
Jimmy Rollins- .858 OPS in August, .875 OPS in September
David Wright, 1.173 OPS in August (.516 OBP!!!), 1.034 OPS in September
Seems to me like David Wright was much more valuable to his team down the stretch than Jimmy Rollins. Unless Rollins’ pitching totals outperforms Wrights’ then, by all means, Rollins deserves it.
Unfortunately, the idiocy of the MVP balloting was shown here. Rollins is more deserving because his team won one more game? Give me a break…
Yup. One more win. What, you’re just as happy with the Mets season with 88 wins as you would have been with 89 wins.
That ONE win means all the difference. We all know it. Once the Mets completed the collapse Wright had no shot - and deserved no shot - for the MVP. While there are exceptions (so please don’t comment with them), MVPs typically go to guys on teams that make the playoffs. And that’s OK by me.
Go Mets in 2008.
Am I happy about it? No. But that’s entirely separate to the MVP debate. The Mets collapse has nothing to do with Wright- in fact, you’d be hard pressed to find a player in the NL who gave his team more down the stretch.
David Wright is the reason the Mets nearly overcame their collapse and made the playoffs. I just do not see how one win suddenly makes Rollins more valuable- are we really supposed to believe because his TEAM won one more game, Rollins was more important to than team than Wright was to his, when Wright’s numbers are loads better?
That’s precisely what I’m saying. Rollins gets more votes because his team make the playoffs. And I’m fine with that. I
So how many of you that are saying “Rollins shouldn’t have won” also criticized Chipper Jones for saying Wright shouldn’t have won his Gold Glove?
i dont think wright shouldve won the gold glove either, unless zimmerman sucks against everyone but the mets its safe to say hes the best fielding 3b in the NL. not to mention the gold glove is alot harder to judge based on stats since fielding stats are pretty vague, so there will always be debates over them. but when a guy has better offensive stats than someone else in every category but triples and runs theres not much to argue with.
Eh. Wright makes some flashy plays but who cares about the Gold Glove anyway? Remember when Palmeiro won it for 1B with the Rangers after playing less than 30 games there, since he was primarily a DH? It’s a meaningless award. And who cares what Larry says about anything?
I think Rollins won by default. He’s not even the best hitter on his own team, Utley is. Holliday’s offense gets the Coors Field discount. Fielder looks to be more one dimensional (in the long run, a la McGwire) but he did hit a ton of HRs. Wright was hurt by the Mets collapse and the presence of another NY 3B - writers think weird crap sometimes.
Jimmy Rollins had a great 2007, and totaled up a ton of doubles, triples, stolen bases, and even home runs. Not to mention he set a major league record in at bats and plate appearances.
To reward the fact that he played all season, played in a potential lineup (which is why he had so many plate appearances) and played in an offensive ballpark that increases a players extra base hits, Rollins stole the National League Most Valuable Player Award.
Rollins only had an .875 OPS last season (which is good for a lead off hitter, but certainly not a great number) and totaled 28 win shares for the season, meaning that Rollins won 9.33 games for the Phillies. On the other hand, the most valuable player in the National League, David Wright, totaled 34 win shares and won the New York Mets 11.33 games by himself.
It’s a shame for Major League Baseball that Rollins finished in the top three in the voting, it’s an atrocity that Rollins won.
Rollins had a near identical season to Curtis Granderson of the Tigers this season, which made him the second or third best player on his team.
oops, i mentioned the Granderson thing below. missed that up here.
Since when is squeezing out a division by one game against a team that led the entire year by one game AND had an historical collapse equate to being the “team to beat?”
Rollins is a clown. He’s a pretty good player, but as many have noted, he is the third best player on his own team.
I mean, the dude won “because he talked the talk”? Since when did the ability to flap one’s gums get included in the MVP conversation?
Seriously, not even the best player on his own team, parked in a line-up with, what, five 20+ home run/80 RBI guys? I’m not saying he didn’t have a good offensive season, but the writers were way the hell off here.
Last point - if Jimmy Rollins gets an MVP, what about Curtis Granderson?
and how many critical poor throws and missed tags did david wright have? are those calculated in his win-shares?
dwright had a great season, and a clutch august/september, but he couldn’t carry the mets to the playoffs, jroll did.
by the way, in head-to-head matchups:
rollins: 1.057 OPS, 6 HRs, 15 RBIs (from the LEADOFF spot), 8 Ks
wright: .991 OPS, 5 HRs, 8 RBIs, 16 Ks
considering that rollins plays SS, and that the phils went 12-6 against the mets (and this is the reason the mets missed the playoffs), i would say dwright was not so clutch……and a large part of the mets missing the playoffs.
Extract the cheesesteak from your a-hole, please.
FORGET about David Wright in this argument - he wasn’t the league MVP. The general shock is that Rollins beat out Matt Holliday, who was a FAR superior MVP candidate.
A Far superior candidate? That’s just silly.
No, it’s not silly, it’s the FACTS:
Holliday had more hits (4), doubles (12), HR (6), RBI(43), BB (14), BA (.44), OBP (.61), SLG (.76) and his OPS was 1.012 vs .875 for Rollins.
Rollins was uperior in SB’s. Both players led their team to the playoffs.
Not silly, rather the FACTS.
and the playoffs have nothing to do with MVPs. rollins is a joke.
I have no problem at all with Rollins winning it… Holliday would have been a good choice, as would Fielder. Wright did not belong in the discussion.
It’s not herecy, just objective opinion.
Rollins had one hell of a year.
Congrats.
I can’t wait to boo the hell out of him next year.
Jimmy should give thanks to the guy who designed Citizens Bank Park. I’m 49 and I could hit HRs out of there.
Rollins deserved it. I hate him, but he backed up his big mouth!
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Holliday was the mostest MVP, though Rollins certainly was no slouch. The Phillies play in as friendly a hitter’s park as the Rockies, and 95% of the home-away splits for both team’s rosters will bear that out. So anyone who penalized Holliday on that account was wrong.
Wright, obviously, wasn’t going to win it on a cast of chokers, nor should he have. Hey, love the Golden Boy like everyone else, but I’d be mighty suspicious if he won the Gold Glove and MVP this year. The GG is crazy enough.
What’s so hard to understand. If the Mets had held on, DWright wins going away (not that i really care if he wins it or not, but what would DWs numbers be if he got to play in Philly or Colorado?), Rollins gets East Coast exposure and no one even knew who the Rockies players were until September. Besides, my recollection from the highlights was Rollins had a ton of big hits.
Just win the damn division in ‘08 and we won’t be sitting here whining over who won what individual award.
What a joke that the phillies have had 2 MVP’s in a row.
This team didnt make the playoffs last year, and only made it this year because we couldn’t beat the nationals…. but they have the two most valuable players the past 2 years? please.
Holiday was robbed. He deserved it. The rockies have one of the most impressive baseball seasons ever and not one player has personal hardware to show for it… joke.
rockies and phillies tied for wins?
‘most impressive baseball seasons ever’ is a little strong.
one of the most impressive baseball season ever… not the most…
a team that comes from nowhere to go on one of the greatest end of season runs in the history of the game is def on a short list.
you didn’t make it b/c you couldn’t beat the phils.
1 GB.
6-12 vs. Phila.
Sad but true. It’s because the Mets failed to man up and beat a clearly inferior team fueled primarily by popups that get caught in a strong overhead wind. Really sad. . . .
But that doesn’t make the third or fourth best player on an 89 win team a legitimate MVP.
A lot of sour grapes on this blog. Let’s speak the awful truth, shall we?
Jimmy Rollins said the Phillies were better than the Mets, and then he backed up all that talk and flat out made it happen. He’s a real ballplayer. End of story. With all apologies to Matt Holliday, who also had a tremendous year, Jimmy Rollins earned that MVP and the writers made the correct call. I won’t even entertain the David Wright for MVP talk, it’s absurd.
Jimmy Rollins could play for my baseball team anyday. I’d take him in an instant over the frauds running around with Mets uniforms on, pretending to be a real baseball team.
I ain’t saying I’d complain about him as a Met, I just don’t think he’s your 2007 NL MVP.
Well, I mean, he “is” but, yeah, you know what I mean…
He could not start at shortstop for my Mets over Reyes. Sorry. Even though Reyes went in the tank toward the end of last season and Rollins finished with better numbers, I will be shocked — shocked — if Rollins ever again statistically exceeds Jose. . . And if Jose played in CBP with that lineup, what would his numbers have been? How many runs would he have scored? I mean, really. . . .
It’s really up to Jose, though. If he wants it more than Rollins, there shouldn’t be any comparison.
Just to clarify, I’m not saying I would shed Jose for Rollins, it’s really just a statement of general principle. I would welcome Jimmy Rollins on the Mets were there some need for him.
Thankfully, we’ve got SS in pretty good shape for a few years.
I will hand it to Rollins, because he underachieved for years, but managed to turn it on before drifting off into the land of those cursed by potential. Still, I think this award will be looked on eventually as an oddity and a bit of a fluke, the result of a severe imbalance between the leagues and unprecedented parity within the lesser league.
Rollins isn’t even the MVP of his own team - that would be Chase Utley who beat Rollins in most offensive categories except HRs despite missing 30 games due to an injury. Frankly, Utley is the guy who got screwed by the MVP voting, not Wright, Holliday, or Fielder but his problem is he doesn’t have a big mouth and isn’t a good self promoter.
Dear lord, this debacle is even causing me to nod in agreement with Rob freaking Neyer. Even he thinks, while not the worst choice, Rollins is no MVP.
Amen to that, for the first time I think.
Holliday didn’t win?
What a joke.
It’s definitely a joke. You shouldn’t win the MVP because you opened your mouth before the season started. Yes, he backed it up with great numbers, but Holliday’s were better. Period.
holliday
at coors
.376avg 1,157ops 25hr 82rbi
on road
.301avg .860ops 11hr 55rbi
he’s a nice player. that’s it. by the way he missed home plate in game 163.
rollins was clearly mvp. wright had a better offensive season than holliday considering ballpark.
delgado
on road
.288avg .870ops 15hr 52rbi
holliday
on road
.301avg .860ops 11hr 55rbi
I’m sorry if this has already been touched on, but Wright was left off of four ballots entirely? Are you kidding me?
the only thing rollins led the league in was outs. “backing up your mouth” is not criteria for winning the mvp award, you dummies. finishing 47th of 75 qualifiers in the league with a .344 obp is more than enough reason not to award somebody when you understand how important OBP is. he was 15th in slugging, putting him behind wright, holliday and the phillies real mvp, chase utley.
rollins had a terrific year, but anyone who thinks he was better than wright or holliday or even hanley ramirez is not paying enough attention.
i can’t believe there are mets fans saying wright shouldn’t have been in the discussion. you guys don’t even appreciate what we have in him. we would’ve been fighting with the marlins and nats for 3rd place this year without him.
It was a unique set of circumstances that doomed Wright — monster numbers while the team has an unprecedented collapse. Additionally, the team posted its best record when he was at his worst, in April and early May.
I don’t really mind going beyond the stat sheet to pick an MVP, but I agree that the stat sheet should be among the data front and center, and Rollins just doesn’t cut it from that perspective.
Whew, anyone else reminded of how terrible those Phils’ sweeps felt . . . and why we need some new faces in the locker room? It’s the one time change for its own sake might be the right strategy.
Does anyone suppose that the Voting was influenced by the “Team to Beat” comment earlier in the season coupled with the big comeback at end? I really don’t think Rollins was better than Holiday or Fielder. Although I do think he should’ve beat Wright in voting, I don’t think he should’ve beat out the other two.
I do hope that this ends up costing the Phillies some money for some type of Contract deal though. I hate the Phillies.
I think the voting was influenced by a few political factors, too, including a desire to have someone other than a brawny, slow power hitter win with the Mitchell Report looming. Insofar as the voters thaught they were rewarding leadership, defense, and all-around play, it’s a good thing. . . except that Rollins wasn’t really the most valuable player on his own team, let alone his league.
i’m officially putting rollins up there with larry and jeter as most hated… but i dont mind him getting mvp. he did have sick numbers…..
ask this question…
swap rollins and holiday and holiday wins mvp.. why.. philly’s market… no1 spoke of the rockies until sept.
so reason why rollins won… more people got to hear him because of 1) loud mouth 2) bigger market
3) stupid voting system under which no objective criteria has established so stupid voters are picking players for all different reasons
and here’s another thing to think about when defining ‘value’:
D-Wright - 2007 New York Mets $1,250,000
Rollins - 2007 Philadelphia Phillies $8,000,000
of course that brings prince fielder into the mix.. but it’s something else to consider
Rollins and his team backed up his big talk but the guy is the second, maybe third best player on his team. How can he be the MVP? I know Utley is much quieter and got hurt with a broken bone in his hand but how can you pick Rollins over him. Just look at the numbers:
Utley - .332, 22 HRs, 102 RBIs, .976 OPS in 132
Rollins - .296, 30HRs, 96 RBIs, .875 OPS in 162
Rollins played 30 more games and the only major offensive category he beats Utley in is HRs.
I have thought for a while MVP voting is a joke and this just confirms.
Sorry about DWright but I knew after the collapse he wasn’t going to get it. The guy who should be mad is Utley who was completely overlooked by his loud mouth teammate.
lol i love when i read how inflated j roll’s stats are due to playing in cbp.any of you dummies ever bother to look at his splits for the season ?
home 69 runs 104 hits 13 2b 11 3b 18 hr 47 rbi 300 avg.
away 70 runs 108 hits 25 2b 9 3b 12 hr 47 rbi 293 avg
that looks pretty even to me..
i think you people are letting your bitter feelings towards the phillies cloud your judgment.
slug% 50 pts higher at home…yeah, his numbers are inflated there. he’s the worst MVP winner in a long time. wright and pujols had better seasons than all candidates.
lol so his slugging % being higher when all the other stats are very even makes him a terrible mvp ?jimmy brings more to the table than holliday does,that is why he won.jimmy does more than just hit hrs.his defense is VERY solid and he has speed too.speaking of inflated stats,let’s have a look at mr. holliday’s shall we
home R 67 h 123 2b 28 3b 5 hr 25 rbi 82 avg 376
away R 53 h 93 2b 22 3b 1 hr 11 rbi 55 avg 301
look at the hrs rbi and avg comparison and then look at jimmy’s and tell me again who has inflated stats here ?