In retrospect, I’m not sure he would be able to thrive in NY.

Milledge high fived the crowd during a game. I can’t ever remember that happening, ever. That’s such an F U to the other team, especially in such a sensitive sport as baseball. It was a tied game to boot.

Thinking back on the 86 Mets, you’re right. Man that was one fun group of guys. But there was dissension even among them. There would be even more dissension among the current Mets as Milledge’s style might fit in with the 86 Mets, but certainly not the 08 Mets.

As for Wagner, yea. He doens’t seem like the best guy in the world either. He could haven handled the situation in another manner. But he’s a proven veteran, and as the world goes proven people get more leeway than unproven rookies. Welcome to the real world.

Why would a team in a rebuilding mode unload a top prospect under their control contractually for a few lesser prospects? It doesn’t make any sense. I don’t think that a Beckett/Bedard comparison is fair, considering that Beckett was a bit more established when he was traded than Bedard is now. Beckett already had a WS ring.

And nobody is going to take a flyer on a guy like Tejada until after the results of the Mitchell report are released.

And why, for the love of God, would you want to ship out most of our top prospects and bring back a horrible pitcher with a terrible contract like Zito?! No thanks. We dodged a bullet on that one the first time, let’s not revisit it.

All things being equal, the Yanks have to be considered the favs to land Santana should he actually be traded.

imo, the only way the mets can get Johan is if the Yankees and Dodgers dont decide to give up there big guns. Sounds like they wont. So that means the Mets have a shot because I think Omar is willing to overpay for Johan. And the Mets do have talent so they are in the race imo.

I think the Mets rank these players in this order…
Pelfrey
Guerrera(spelling)
Humber
Mulvey

although Pelfrey hasnt looked great I still havnt given up on him. I like his stuff and he is still very young. Humber, imo, is way overated. He has a nice curve ball thats it. So as far as he is concerned he is a guy that I wouldnt think twice about getting rid of. Guerrera is a guy no one mentions. Mainly because I think the Mets dont want to hype him. He has solid stuff and has is rising in the system. Mulvey had an excellent year but he is only projected to be a 4th starter.

as for the hitters.

The mets have some chips obiviously. IMO, I would rather trade Gomez than Milledge. I dont care how fats he runs, he doesnt look good at the plate. Hes very young but I just dont liek the way he looks and his vibe as well. So if teams are high on him thats fine by me. Millz is a solid player. hes not gonna be a sta but he is a useful player. If he isnt dealt I have no problem with him playing rf for us this year. But if he is in a deal, which he will be, thats fine with me too

To me Fmart is the wild card. He is so far away but he seems to have the greatest potential of the 3. He is the only guy I wouldnt include in any of these deals except for Johan.

With all that being said, I think the Mets can get a stud pitcher with the guys mentioned above. It just depends on the combo. Under no circumstances would I trade all 3 Outfielders in any deal. A deal for Johan would be 2 of the 3 OF and their choice of the SP. If they want Humber and Mulvey insted of Pelfrey ….where do I sign?

As for the other SP out there. I would only include 1 of the outfielders and 2 of the sp along with a Heilman type. That should be enough.

the mets NEED an ace. The Scott Kazmir trade makes me throw up. If that trade didnt go down we wouldnt even be having these discussions. We would be talking about the great WS we just witnssed wit the mets and sox. The kazmir trade has set this franchise back. If your gonan trade Kazmir you get back a stud bat or pitcher…not victor zambrano. Unreal. If we had Kazmir right now forget it. Our staff would be set. And we would be able to keep all of these prospects and see if 1 or 2 of them pan out. Horrendous trade.

anyways thats my story and im stickin to it.

Has less to do with reasons for him than rejecting your reasons against him. Deciding a guy’s a cancer with less than 2 years of mlb service (and who’s 21 years old) is, to me, baloney. They’re not all DW or JR, and as you said, he has a ton of talent. Keeping and using that low cost talent (not withstanding trade for pitching) is good business and good baseball.