Comments on: Buzz: Mets Targeting A’s Again

By: TilMetsDoUsPart

TilMetsDoUsPart — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:41:18 +0000

And if G-d played baseball I’d like to get him for prospects but that’s a stretch.

By: TilMetsDoUsPart

TilMetsDoUsPart — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:40:17 +0000

Rich Harden won’[t pitch so that package for the two would be horrendous.

So far, it seems that

A) The Yankees want Santana, but aren’t prepared to part with Cano, or 2 prestigeous pitching prospects
B) The Dodgers may be willing to part with major prospects a la Kershaw, Kemp, Abreu etc. to obtain Santana.
C) The D’Backs would certainly top a Mets offer for Dan Haren, if they wanted to.
D) Omar wants to do something big to obtain a pitcher better than Carlos Silva

So…

The Dodgers and Yankeesare front runners for Santana.
The D’Backs and Yankees are front runners for Haren.

So…

Either….

A) Hope that Santana is actually traded, and to the Dodgers, so the Mets are front runners for Erik Bedard
B) Hope that the D’Backs aren’t giving away the farm for Dan Haren and go for him.
C) Hope the Delmon Young-Matt Garza falls through and push for Garza with Gomez and Gotay. Certainly enough.
D) Give away Milledge and Heilman for Blanton, who will probably consistantly give us around 200 IP and a 3.50 ERA.

By: therealsince86

therealsince86 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:16:45 +0000

I am sure the Mets have enough to get HarDen and Blanton but not Haren and Blanton. It would be a good middle ground. Discussion COULD go like this.
Omar: “We are interested in Blanton”
Beane: “We would only trade him for a major league ready OF and a prospect.”
Omar: “How about Gomez and Humber”
Beane: “I really need that OF to be more MLB ready, how about Milledge and I don’t really like Humber so what about Mulvey.”
Omar: “There is now way I trade those two for just Blanton but if you included Harden I would do it.”
Beane: “Harden has a lot of talent and we could slot him in the pen. If you give us Heilman to take his place then we have a deal”
Again, who knows?

By: x-nady

x-nady — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:07:34 +0000

I understand your thinking. But it is based on too many unknown and unlikely factors like: Will Beane trade two starting pitchers to one team? My hunch in No. There are many teams out there that need SPs. As stated in another post, he could get more if he splits them up. Also, I don’t think the mets have enough chips to make such a move. Most of these posts are grossly over-estimating the value of our chips.

But Hey, if Omar can trade Mota and get more than a ham sandwich and a bag of sand in return, then he should have no problem elevating their value. But personally, I think if they are to land anyone from Oakland, it will be just a single Starting Pitcher.

By: therealsince86

therealsince86 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:52:30 +0000

You are prob. right. I think you have to look at it differently. Would Beane do a Blanton for Milledge and a prospect? Would Beane trade Harden and the money owed for Heilman and a prospect? Harden is not being counted on by Beane and you know he can’t stand paying 6 million+ for a starter that may not pitch 10 games. As for the Mets, he is worth the gamble to find that ace we need. Of course only if we get Blanton to give the guarnteed innings.

By: BiggieSmalls

BiggieSmalls — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:50:13 +0000

HarDEN is a huge ionjury risk and makes decent coin.. He’s hardly considered a frontline starter in the same breathe as Balnton – hes all potential.

The deal would be more than MIlledge and Heilman.
And Heilman – given the money Cordero just go would be a super valuable chip in any bullpen as a closer

By: x-nady

x-nady — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:37:23 +0000

That a nice dream. But no way is Beane going to trade two front line starters for an unproven Center Fielder & a wanna-be starter who is a reliever.

By: therealsince86

therealsince86 — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:26:35 +0000

AS I said this is from their mailbag site answered by beat reporter Mychael Urban.
Also, everyone that has posted in favor of Harden was commenting on getting BOTH Blanton and Harden. Blanton fills in as your innings eater and Harden if healthy can be an ace. Blanton alone is not worth Milledge but Harden and Blanton are worth Milledge and Heilman.

By: sdanzig

sdanzig — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:25:30 +0000

To be fair, what we accomplished last season did not seem very “average” :)

By: x-nady

x-nady — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:12:53 +0000

We cannot afford to take a gamble on an injury risk pitcher. Even if we were to get him just for Millage (which I can’t see happening) he is our best chip right now, and I would include other prospects and even Heilman to get Haren.

If you give up Millage, the centerpiece to any trade is gone and I can’t see the mets trading for anyone of importance after that.

I think Haren is the way to go over Blanton (or HarDEN, even though I have not heard any recent activity surrounding him). Then you go out and get a free agent Silva/Livan to round out the rotation. And it would be extremely beneficial if that FA pitcher is a lefty so we don’t get clobbered by left handed hitting.

PS. I really wouldn’t call Kate V. from staten Island a reliable source that the mets are after HarDEN.