Joba and Kennedy didn’t exist in their system a year ago and now they are gods. Hughes projects to a #3 starter for most scouts, and Cabrera is a 5th OF.

dont want Cano because they cant afford him is a completely moronic statement.

Reported Deal That’s Close from MLB Trade Rumors:

Twins Get: Delmon Young, Brendan Harris & Jason Pridie
DRays Get: Matt Garza, Juan Rincon & Jason Bartlett

Jason (NJ): Am I the only one who thinks Hughes, Cabrera and Jackson is a weak offer for Santana. I think Melky is WAY over rated by some of these writers. If I am the Twins GM, I ask for Hughes and Cano, plus a lesser guy. Whats your opinion?

Jim Callis: (2:13 PM ET ) I don’t think Cabrera is anything special, but that’s not a horribly weak offer. I love Philip Hughes. I don’t think the Yankees will part with Cano, so if I’m the Twins, maybe I counter with Hughes, Cabrera, Tabata (or Jackson if I can’t get more than Tabata) plus Ian Kennedy.

Anthony (Brooklyn NY): Ian Kennedy; Is he legit or product of Yankee hype? Would the Twins accept him in a deal instead of Phil Hughes?

Jim Callis: (2:15 PM ET ) Some of each. Kennedy’s stuff is nothing special, but he pitches above his stuff. He can become a No. 3 pitcher, but he’s not budding Mike Mussina. I think the Twins would be happy to have him, but not as the centerpiece of a Santana deal. He’s not that good.

Norman, Putney, VT: Word here (which means rumors) has the Sox offering Buchholtz OR Lester, plus Coco, Lowrie and Masterson OR Bowden for Santana if the Twins grant the 72 hour negotiating window. Too much, too little, just right?

Jim Callis: (2:18 PM ET ) I That’s the type of deal that could work for both sides. Boston gets to keep Ellsbury, they can afford to give up a quality young starter with Santana coming in, Lowrie is blocked in Boston right now but ready to play, and the Red Sox could afford to give up Masterson or Bowden in that deal, too. If I’m the Twins, I’d obviously prefer Ellsbury, but that’s an interesting package. Maybe I get Brandon Moss, who’s blocked also, thrown in as well.

Mike(NY): Dan Haren and Calero for Gomez, Guerra, and Mulvey. Is that a good trade offer?

Jim Callis: (2:21 PM ET ) Good for the Mets. If I’m the A’s, I want more than that. I’m not sure how many great chips New York has to play with. I love Milledge’s talent, hate the makeup. I’m not as big a fan of Pelfrey, Humber and Gomez as others might be. I just don’t see enough enticing pieces to pull off a blockbuster.

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Dave (South Bend): Is Mulvey, Pelfrey, and Milledge enough for Haren? Please say no. What about Blanton?

Jim Callis: (2:23 PM ET ) I’d still rather have Haren. But you know what, I suspect we’re going to see a deal that involves sending Milledge to Oakland and Blanton to New York.

Additionally, fans of all teams for some crazy reason have an irrational notion that their teams young propsects or players will all be great. Reality check – most are busts or avg at best.

Look at a Celtics fan forum or blog before and right after the Allen and Garnett trades. 2/3’s of the entries were bemoaning the fact they lost 4-5 young players who were the future of the franchise. Look at what their saying now after an 11-1 start.

Pelfrey – at best a #3 or perhaps like Izzy
Humber – who knows already had elbow surgery
Milledge – Gilkey?
Gomez – no bat yet
Fmart – ??
Gotay – avg at best
J. Smith – might become Bradford clone
Mulvey – who knows

Even if one of the group pans out to be an allstar — don’t you think its worth it for a perennial Cy Young winner an ace. I would easily give up 3-4 or maybe even 5 of those players for Johan. Depth – you can get their production at this stage from a a journey man FA. Worry about 4 years from now in 4 years.

My deal —- (Option A) Maine or Perez, Gomez and choice of 1 of (Pelfrey, Humber, FMart, Gotay) or (Option B) Milledge, Gomez, and choice of 2 of (Pelfrey, Humber, J. Smith, Mulvey, Kunz, Gotay)

Rotation for 08

(A)
Santana
Pedro
Maine or Perez
Duque
FA or (Humber, Pelfrey)

(B)
Santana
Pedro
Maine
Perez
Duque

I prefer option (B).

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/28615

pedro
haren
maine
perez
duque

wagner
nathan
heilman
sanchez
feliciano
sosa/show

that’s a solid pitching staff. they’d need to add a right-field bat though as milledge and gomez will be gone in trades.