Comments on: Buzz: Clock is Ticking for Johan Santana http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: bidding numbers http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-277415 bidding numbers Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:51:50 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-277415 <strong>bidding numbers...</strong> It has since been implemented in most other blogging tools. The TrackBack specification was created by Six Apart, who first implemented it... bidding numbers…

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Sorry, don’t agree 100% with you on this!…

]]> By: English Language Books of Fiction » Blog Archive » Buzz: Clock is Ticking for Johan Santana http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-53034 English Language Books of Fiction » Blog Archive » Buzz: Clock is Ticking for Johan Santana Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:56:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-53034 [...] Buzz: Clock is Ticking for Johan SantanaBy Matthew CerroneThe Yankees have given the Twins a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum that ends today, reported Jon Heyman yesterday at SI.com. Later in the day, Hank Steinbrenner confirmed the ultimatum to the New York Post, stating he will not allow a …MetsBlog.com - http://www.metsblog.com [...] [...] Buzz: Clock is Ticking for Johan SantanaBy Matthew CerroneThe Yankees have given the Twins a take-it-or-leave-it ultimatum that ends today, reported Jon Heyman yesterday at SI.com. Later in the day, Hank Steinbrenner confirmed the ultimatum to the New York Post, stating he will not allow a …MetsBlog.com – http://www.metsblog.com [...]

]]> By: rd http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52569 rd Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:50:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52569 Initially it was cashman then Hank stood by him after his ascention....... Dude.... Initially it was cashman then Hank stood by him after his ascention……. Dude….

]]> By: letz_go_metz http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52116 letz_go_metz Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:54:45 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52116 We go from crying about having traded away Bell and Bannister to talking about our current prospects having low or no value. I think other GM's look at some of the pitching talent we've traded away, particularly those two pitchers, and they realize that we are a source of discounted talent. I agree with Alexander on the scout board, the Peterson method works with some pitchers, but utterly fails with certain others. GM's look at how we gave up on Bell and Bannister and the smart ones realize that some Mets pitching prospects are pure GOLD, at a deeply discounted price. There are a lot of shrewd and hard working GM's out there. Some of them are thinking along just these lines. Admittedly; I gotta believe. We go from crying about having traded away Bell and Bannister to talking about our current prospects having low or no value. I think other GM’s look at some of the pitching talent we’ve traded away, particularly those two pitchers, and they realize that we are a source of discounted talent. I agree with Alexander on the scout board, the Peterson method works with some pitchers, but utterly fails with certain others.

GM’s look at how we gave up on Bell and Bannister and the smart ones realize that some Mets pitching prospects are pure GOLD, at a deeply discounted price. There are a lot of shrewd and hard working GM’s out there. Some of them are thinking along just these lines.

Admittedly; I gotta believe.

]]> By: letz_go_metz http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52092 letz_go_metz Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:45:13 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52092 You keep on obsessing over the Lastings Milledge trade. There are other players and prospects on this team. I don't love the trade but it sounds like other GM's wouldn't offer him much more than a bag of baseballs for Milledge. Think it's possible both they and Omar are aware of things about Milledge that we're not? It's probable, don't doubt it. Then you blast the manager, GM, management. You talk about Milledge's upside being bigger than Gomez's. The thing is, you utterly dismiss Milledge's downside. It was very real, visible and amplified by the NY media. Hotdogging it to the point where other teams (Marlins) legitimately had a gripe and started a fight. Dogging it at times on the basepaths. Barking bad defense that he made up for a bit with his speed. Then insulting his manager in the dugout, on national TV, and more than once. Maybe his talent more than makes up for these things, maybe not. Maybe he will adjust to the breaking balls down and away, maybe never. He should apologize to Willie not the other way around. Omar trades based upon the realty of the marketplace. We trade based upon fantasy valuations, rumors (suspect) of trades that were offered. We had a busload of smoke pumped up our butts by the newspapers about his supposed trade value, it's possible it was all smoke. You keep on obsessing over the Lastings Milledge trade. There are other players and prospects on this team. I don’t love the trade but it sounds like other GM’s wouldn’t offer him much more than a bag of baseballs for Milledge. Think it’s possible both they and Omar are aware of things about Milledge that we’re not? It’s probable, don’t doubt it.

Then you blast the manager, GM, management. You talk about Milledge’s upside being bigger than Gomez’s. The thing is, you utterly dismiss Milledge’s downside. It was very real, visible and amplified by the NY media. Hotdogging it to the point where other teams (Marlins) legitimately had a gripe and started a fight. Dogging it at times on the basepaths. Barking bad defense that he made up for a bit with his speed. Then insulting his manager in the dugout, on national TV, and more than once.

Maybe his talent more than makes up for these things, maybe not. Maybe he will adjust to the breaking balls down and away, maybe never.

He should apologize to Willie not the other way around. Omar trades based upon the realty of the marketplace. We trade based upon fantasy valuations, rumors (suspect) of trades that were offered. We had a busload of smoke pumped up our butts by the newspapers about his supposed trade value, it’s possible it was all smoke.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52084 VCarver Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:40:37 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52084 No, it's not really. The Mets have a lot of players on the front end of a lot of back loaded contracts. It's like buying with a credit card. The just put off paying for what they've spent right now. They've spent almost as much as the Red Sox in recent years. And even if you don't want to consider it from a LT perspective, the differences amount to just $28 million. Heck, the Yankees spent almost $80 million more than the Red Sox. You can continue to idolize the Yankees. That's your choice. I will admit that they are pretty good businesspeople. But as for their baseball smarts, they stink. You say they may be favorites to win the WS every year, but they don't. They should, given the obscene money they spend, but it's been misspent. <i><b>The difference is that the Yankees put more of their revenues back into the team than anyone else does. </b></i> That's pure poppycock. You are drinking the kool-aid of Michael Kay. And you have no facts to support that opinion. I would say they make better business decisions than the Mets, and perhaps they are willing to exceed the Luxury Tax more than the Mets, but to say they are more committed to their team than any other organizations is just nonsense. They are a beneficiary of 1) their history 2) the large market in which they operate and 3) good business decisions. No, it’s not really. The Mets have a lot of players on the front end of a lot of back loaded contracts. It’s like buying with a credit card. The just put off paying for what they’ve spent right now.

They’ve spent almost as much as the Red Sox in recent years. And even if you don’t want to consider it from a LT perspective, the differences amount to just $28 million.

Heck, the Yankees spent almost $80 million more than the Red Sox.

You can continue to idolize the Yankees. That’s your choice. I will admit that they are pretty good businesspeople. But as for their baseball smarts, they stink. You say they may be favorites to win the WS every year, but they don’t. They should, given the obscene money they spend, but it’s been misspent.

The difference is that the Yankees put more of their revenues back into the team than anyone else does.

That’s pure poppycock. You are drinking the kool-aid of Michael Kay. And you have no facts to support that opinion.

I would say they make better business decisions than the Mets, and perhaps they are willing to exceed the Luxury Tax more than the Mets, but to say they are more committed to their team than any other organizations is just nonsense.

They are a beneficiary of 1) their history 2) the large market in which they operate and 3) good business decisions.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52067 VCarver Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:25:46 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52067 I think it does matter. 7 years now and 0 titles. Yet they've spent over a billion dollars trying to buy one. Relative to the money they've spent, their returns recently are some of the smallest in baseball. Smaller than the Mets. I wouldn't be too sure of them avoiding financial problems. I'm not saying they're going to go bankrupt, but I can see them having some sort of financial difficulties in the near future. I think it does matter. 7 years now and 0 titles. Yet they’ve spent over a billion dollars trying to buy one. Relative to the money they’ve spent, their returns recently are some of the smallest in baseball. Smaller than the Mets.

I wouldn’t be too sure of them avoiding financial problems. I’m not saying they’re going to go bankrupt, but I can see them having some sort of financial difficulties in the near future.

]]> By: christian warrior http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52065 christian warrior Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:24:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52065 The spending gap between the Mets and the NL is substantially smaller than it is between the Red Sox and the AL. I am sorry to say it, but I just think that the Yankees have the best ownership. I believe that the Red Sox, Mets, and some other teams very well could spend just as much as the Yankees do. The difference is that the Yankees put more of their revenues back into the team than anyone else does. Like I said somewhere above, I think it's an investment that they're willing to make, and the Mets are obviously not. The longer the Yankees continue to be a favorite to win the WS every year, the more money they will make, they'll spend more on FA players, and the jealous fans of every other team in baseball will continue to bitch about it. The spending gap between the Mets and the NL is substantially smaller than it is between the Red Sox and the AL.

I am sorry to say it, but I just think that the Yankees have the best ownership. I believe that the Red Sox, Mets, and some other teams very well could spend just as much as the Yankees do. The difference is that the Yankees put more of their revenues back into the team than anyone else does. Like I said somewhere above, I think it’s an investment that they’re willing to make, and the Mets are obviously not. The longer the Yankees continue to be a favorite to win the WS every year, the more money they will make, they’ll spend more on FA players, and the jealous fans of every other team in baseball will continue to bitch about it.

]]> By: christian warrior http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52059 christian warrior Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:17:54 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/03/buzz-clock-is-ticking-for-johan-santana/#comment-52059 They've wasted that money, but it doesn't matter because they have more than made up for it with other signings. The bottom line is that the Yankees have made themselves into a team that contends every singly season. If they continue to do business the way they currently do, that will not change. Ever. And btw, the idea of the Yankees spending themselves into financial troubles is almoxt laughable. Do you realize how profitable the Yankees truly are? Outside of Disney, they might be the most recognizable entertainment organization on the planet. Certainly in the world of sports. I don't think they're too worried about going into bankruptcy. They’ve wasted that money, but it doesn’t matter because they have more than made up for it with other signings.

The bottom line is that the Yankees have made themselves into a team that contends every singly season. If they continue to do business the way they currently do, that will not change. Ever.

And btw, the idea of the Yankees spending themselves into financial troubles is almoxt laughable. Do you realize how profitable the Yankees truly are? Outside of Disney, they might be the most recognizable entertainment organization on the planet. Certainly in the world of sports. I don’t think they’re too worried about going into bankruptcy.

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