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Buzz: Mets work with O’s on Bedard
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 3, 2007 8:26 pm

During an appearance on WFAN, beat-reporter Sweeny Murti said, “There is news floating around that the Mets are close on Erik Bedard.”

Update8:31 pm

…from what i can gather, Omar Minaya has been dumping a ton of rhetoric around, back-peddling on his need to acquire a top-line starting pitcher, while suggesting that he may not be in the best position to make such a trade…

…in fact, a few people close to the team have suggested that when minaya said last week that trading Lastings Milledge wouldn’t hurt his chances of making a trade for pitcher, what he really meant was that with or without milledge he could not make a trade for a pitcher because he just doesn’t have the horses either way

…frankly, i’m skeptical of everything, be it positive or negative

Update8:45 pm

earlier, i was sent on a wild-goose chase suggesting that the Mets could be working with the O’s on a deal involving Miguel Tejada, paying his way to a third team, while acquiring bedard, but i don’t sense there is any thing to that

146 Responses to “Buzz: Mets work with O’s on Bedard”

  1. throatneedle says:

    best news i’ve heard all day. do whatever it takes minaya

  2. Deaner says:

    This could be a good thing for the mets to get into.

    They may have to give up less to acquire him and if a 3rd team gets involved, it could make it a bit better to match up needs.

    Who is a good fit for tejada?

  3. natew says:

    very interesting…

    that basically how the Braves ended up with Mike Hampton while the Marlins payed 3 years of his salary. Though in that case it was the Marlins ‘buying’ prospects, not a top starter.

    Its not my money, so go get it done Omar. :)

  4. Meddler says:

    What???? That’s a little scary! Maybe they move Delgado and eat his contract??? I can’t stomach the thought of anything worse than that happening to this Mets infield for pitching.

  5. NYMetz6986 says:

    or maybe reyes is involved…i suggested something like this the other day…perhaps a reyes, gomez, heilman and humber for bedard and tejada.

  6. pifman says:

    Let us hope that doesn’t mean they really are considering trading Reyes for Santana… but perhaps they may attempt a 3 way deal with the Twins and will have Santana and Bedard?

  7. John Paul Cullinane says:

    do whatever it takes to get bedard…that’s who i’ve wanted anyway…Santana and haren are apparently not fits in trades for the metropolitans…you gotta get bedard. If not start talking to the giants about cain or lincecum

  8. Wyoming Met says:

    Interesting, very very interesting.

    Didnt see this one coming.

  9. pezao says:

    If we have Bedard, Tejada, and Santana, could we live without Reyes? Maybe the Twins will take Tajada + 15 others……

  10. John Paul Cullinane says:

    can we throw in delado and get millar too…please? I just can’t root for the guy, i’m just rooting for laundry with him.

  11. anothermetsfaninla says:

    Maybe we spin off Tejada to the Angels for some pitching?

  12. gowrightgo says:

    I had a thought a week ago or so.

    Trade Reyes straight up for Santana

    Then trade Mulvey, Humber, Gotay, Perez and Gomez for Bedard
    and Tejada.

    Maybe there is something to it after all

  13. randymac88 says:

    Why not throw Tejada at second and eat Castillo’s contract, or send him away?

    • RespectDaBestRM says:

      tejada is only in it to then ship him off to boston because boston will be sending pedroia as part of the trade for santana and then they’ll move lugo to second and they still keep ellsbury and bucholtz.
      it will be pedroia, lester and another prospect for santana and they’ll get tejada from the mets as part of the 3 way for bedard.

  14. can_of_corn says:

    If it’s Bedard and Tejada, then Reyes is definitely involved, unless it’s a package like Gomez and Maine. (Tejada moves to first base, and we send Delgado to the AL for some prospects.)

    Under either scenario, I’d pass. Bedard doesn’t have the track record that Santana does (duh), and he’s not as young (or cheap) as Haren.

    • mets17 says:

      Don’t you get it. if its involving Tejada that is worse for us and we shouldnt have to give up as much, because of his high salary. So that means Reyes isn’t involved.

  15. stickguy says:

    I said before that taking back some bad contracts is the best way for the Mets to get someone like Bedard.

    If the Mets supposedly have all this $$ available, but no one to spend it on, but a shortage of prospects to trade, then the smart play is to trade money.

    You do that by eating big contracts, either attached to a good 9but overpriced) player, or getting the guy you want + the bad deals.

    Not sure what to do with Tejada. Trade for what you can get, eating 1/2 the salary? Again, not a bad idea, since you are effectively trading $$ for players.

    WOnder what that deal would cost?

    Hey, dump Dlegado on them, and put Tejada at 1st!

  16. Mets24 says:

    I heard that interview on the way home. Sweeny started to say that, and instead of asking more about it, Fat Mike (Francessa) just cut him off and went on to another topic. That’s typical of Fat Mike – he talks over everyone.

  17. stickguy says:

    Don’t jump on th eguy that wants to dump Castillo.

    Why can’t he be traded? If Tejada can play second, go for it!

  18. born2run01 says:

    There is no way the Mets both take on Tejada’s salary and trade Delgado/eat most of his contract

  19. rolson2386 says:

    i can see this winter meeting ending without any real moves being made… or the acquisition of lower tier pitching… a lot of hype for nothing

  20. Pedro says:

    Wow, the update that he posted just completely negated what he orignially posted. Now they don’t have the horses for a deal?!? What the hell is going on over there

  21. Blue_n_Orange says:

    I’ve felt for some time that this was the Mets best thing to fall back on. They have a HUGE revenue stream and can absorb contracts like the other heavy hitters. Now is the time to do it. So the prospects are a bit on the weak side, take on all of Tejada’s money plus throw in some of our best prospects and now we can start talking. I wouldn’t mind trying Tejada out at 1st and moving Delgado for some relief pitching.

  22. loopenark says:

    No, no, no — what this means is that to get Bedard, the O’s want to dump salary by making you take Tejada and all his money. So the O’s send the Bedard to the Mets, Tejada to the Angels, the Angels send decent prospects to the O’s, the Mets send a lesser package to the O’s and the Mets pick up a bunch of the Tejada money. The O’s get out from under the money, the Angels get the bat they want at a lower cost, and the Mets get a good pitcher without having to give up all of their prospects.

    If the rumor is at all real, this is likely what it is.

    • ExileInLA says:

      That would be the smartest thing out there. The Mets have more money than prospects; they need to take $ back in swaps.

      What about the following:

      LAA gives: Brandon Wood (SS/3B), Jeff Mathis (C), Erwin Santana (P), Kelvim Escobar (P)

      LAA gets: Miguel Tejada (SS-Bal); John Maine (P-Mets)

      BAL gives: Miguel Tejada (SS); Eric Bedard (P)

      BAL gets: Brandon Wood (SS/3B – LAA), Jeff Mathis (C – LAA), Erwin Santana (P – LAA), Fernando Martinez (OF-NYM), Mike Pelfrey (P-NYM) plus relief from big salaries

      NYM gives: John Maine (P), Fernando Martinez (OF), Mike Pelfrey (P), lots of $ to LAA via swapping Maine for Escobar

      NYM gets: Kelvim Escobar (P-LAA), Eric Bedard (P-BAL).

      Angels give up 1 ML pitcher, and 2 top prospects, for Tejada, plus cut their salaries & get young by taking Maine for Escobar.

      Baltimore gets 1 proven young pitcher, plus Pelfrey, plus Tejada’s replacement, plus a catcher that allows them to dump Ramon and a player for the future in F-Mart.

      Mets give up a huge upside in F-Mart, get older & pricier at the back end of the rotation, and get a #1 in Bedard.

      • SenatorSteve says:

        I almost never see a realisic rade proposal on this site, but I love this one. I can’ t figure out which team is getting the short end of the stick on this trade. That is a pretty good sign that you did a good job putting it together.

  23. Pedro says:

    oh well, that was an exciting 15 minutes

  24. can_of_corn says:

    Reyes-Humber for Bedard-Tejada sounds a lot like Ramirez-Sanchez for Beckett-Lowell….

  25. beltran07 says:

    how much would we hafta give up for bedard??

    here is what i’m pondering about teh deal: we give up church and pelfrey, receive bedard and tejada but must assume his whole contract, then spin him off to another team for 2 prospects (this is still assuming we eat up a majority of tejada’s contract for the other team to ensure we get top talent back from them) and spin these players back off to the orioles to complete their deal for bedard.

    • landyg21 says:

      The Angels want Tejada, They send Brandon Wood to the O’s and Ervin Santana to the Mets and we’ll pay half the salary.

      • beltran07 says:

        if that were to occur, i highly doubt we’d receive santana back. they’re saying that the bedard demands may be higher than the santana demands.

        wood+pelf+e.santana+church

        could this get it done??

        could we get wood and santana for tejada and most of his contract?

        • landyg21 says:

          The problem here is the O’s owner who only likes a steal. I would think they could get both back and that would stop them from sending Santana, Wood and 2 other prospects to the Marlins for Cabrera. The Mets could help themselves in more than one way here.

        • landyg21 says:

          The Angels don’t want Tejada’s contract. The Mets would have to eat half.

    • NYMetz6986 says:

      no offense but stop dreaming…his contract isnt even that bad for a 300 hitter who might hit 20 and 100…for this to get done i would have to think that both gomez anf martinez are involved…prob along with major leaguer heilman.

      • landyg21 says:

        Martinez is going nowhere, 18 in AA. Come on, you probably can’t name another in your lifetime. The only other one I know was Felix Hernandez.

        • NYMetz6986 says:

          that makes no sense

        • pifman says:

          Andruw Jones in the playoffs at age 19?

        • NYMetz6986 says:

          ohh you mean not leaving our farm system…i can see where your coming from but for bedard i think you would have to.

        • landyg21 says:

          You couldn’t trade Andruw Jones for Bedard until this year. I’ll take my 8 plus great seasons with Martinez then 4 for Bedard.

        • NYMetz6986 says:

          martinez might be good we all know bedard is good i also forgot to mention his 1.07 whip and that he plays in the al east and against the yankees and red sox he was a combined 3-0 while only allowing 8 er in 34 2/3 innings which is about a 2 era and thats in 5 gs…take a look at the results and you see a true ace.

        • landyg21 says:

          Jeff Suppan shut down the Mets in the post season, that doesn’t make him an ace. Some pitcher just own other team like Mussina being something like 20-2 against the O’s.

  26. landyg21 says:

    If the Mets can trade for Bedard and Tejada even though they eat his salary, they have to do it. I just want to know what the Mets have to give up. I’m not giving up top prospects such as a Guerra, Martinez, or Gomez to acquire unless they’re taking Delgado off our hands.

    • John Paul Cullinane says:

      that’s what i was saying…the winter would be successful to just get rid of him…it’s like Kaz…a sunk cost. Best of luck, but it will never work out here…good riddance

    • NYMetz6986 says:

      you gotta be kidding…bedard is a top 5 pitcher in the game these days…do yourself a favor and go checkout highlights of bedard pitching from last year and then come back and tell me you dont want the 94 mph heater and devastating curve in your rotation next season…for unknowns like gomez and martinez and guerra. Id give up guerra and gomez in a heartbeat and pay the 30 or so mil left on tejadas contract.

      • landyg21 says:

        Oswalt, Santana, Halladay, Peavy, Beckett. I don’t see Bedard on that list.

        • landyg21 says:

          Sabathia, Haren, Verlander, King Felix, Webb not on that list either. Where does a 13 game winner fit in this, hmmmmm Wang 19 wins, Zambrano 18 wins, and Kazmir 13 wins, but lead the league in K’s. Top 5, lol.

        • pifman says:

          Yeah there are a good number of pitchers I would say are better than Bedard. And believe it or not Pedro Martinez is better, he has recovered you can all believe it at this point and he is back. He may not pitch 230 innings but I think 180 is reasonable from Pedro and with 200+ strikeouts and an ERA in the low 3s could you expect more from Bedard?

        • NYMetz6986 says:

          3.17 era and 221 k’s..enough said…you cant look at those win totals on a terrible baltimore team…camden yards is also a hitters ball parktop 5 MAYBE was pushing it but hes definitely top 10.

        • landyg21 says:

          But you also have pitcher like Hamels, Smoltz, Lackey, Carmona, and Maine and Perez who had more wins then Bedard. Top 10 is still a stretch, but I can deal with it.

        • pifman says:

          It is not ridiculous at all. At the beginning of the season he got that major shoulder injury he was leading the majors in strikeouts. I don’t think a mediocre pitcher could do that. Pedro is not done, he is still going strong. The evidence from his starts at the end of the most recent season didn’t prove that to you? And that is after just coming off of rehab, I feel extremely confident he will be even better in this coming season. And especially since he has a leadership quality about him and has the ability to mentor and teach younger pitchers I value Pedro much more than I would value Bedard.

        • metsftw says:

          hahaha…halladay is so overrated it’s not even funny. 1 good season does not a pitcher make. king felix? LOL. please.

      • John Paul Cullinane says:

        that was a reply…it’s about delgado being a sunk cost…i want bedard

  27. longtimesufferingmetsfan says:

    omar is an incompetent fool. there will be no big trade. once again, the “my team or nothing crowd” believes all the propoganda put out by the mets. right now it would seem the mets are the laughingstock of baseball.. third place in 2008

  28. Militant Metsfan says:

    Eat Tejada’s contract. If Reyes is involved…no deal.

    If people are bitchin and moaning about trading a supposed prospect like Milledge….imagine how it will be if Reyes…one of the top 5 players in all of baseball is traded…and I’ll be bitching the loudest.

    Only Met haters would want us to get rid of reyes.

    • John Paul Cullinane says:

      reyes – arguably the third best shortstop in the NL East

      • pifman says:

        You are ridiculous. Hanley Ramirez cannot field for his life and won’t be a SS for much longer and Jimmy Rollins had a career year when Reyes had the biggest slump of his short career. Have some faith… arguably the 3rd best in the division. And to think before this season he was arguably the best player in the majors.

      • runxc3200 says:

        reyes – arguably the third best shortstop in baseball

        • pifman says:

          No, when I say this I am not being biased as a Mets fan. Reyes is the best SS in the NL East. He has the best arm and is the fastest, has good natural instincts and will develop into a perennial gold glover. Is a switch hitter with power from both sides. Can steal the most bases in any season, can hit for over .300 and into the gaps. You are a pathetic Mets fan.

        • John Paul Cullinane says:

          I’m not a pathetic mets fan to think Hanley Ramirez is better…and you can make a case that Rollins is better…hence arguably the third best in the NL East…

          Sorry guy…but that’s the truth.

        • pifman says:

          Technically you could say that arguably Victor Zambrano is better than Sandy Koufax. It doesn’t make it true or even remotely likely. And yes you are pathetic, Hanley Ramirez is such a bad fielder he will be at 1B within 2 years. And Rollins has about 5 years on Reyes, had the best year of his career and look at the stadium he plays in. There is absolutely no argument that Reyes is 3rd best.

      • Militant Metsfan says:

        B.S. Reyes is the top Short Stop in the NL…in fact he’s the best shortstop in New york.

        I’m beginning to wonder why some people are will to throw Reyes away and not White…umm…Wright.

        Seems to me that Black players are given a short rope by the Mets and a majority of their fans…

  29. DMAT89 says:

    rollins plays in a ban box…

  30. DMAT89 says:

    band*

  31. TilMetsDoUsPart says:

    As long as we don’t have any holes at any positions, and the names Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Maine, Perez or Martinez don’t leave the Mets, it will be a breath of fresh air for Erik Bedard to be a Met.

    Eat at Miguel Tejada’s contract like crazy but get Bedard!

  32. rj101592 says:

    So does that 8:45 update meen it’s not gonna happen?

  33. longtimesufferingmetsfan says:

    the 2008 Mets, your season was over before it started

  34. itsmetsforme says:

    do the orioles still enjoy the rights to Sammy Sosa? That’d be one way to get Om*r’s attention!

  35. spendfredsmoney says:

    I think Omar might try and flip Schnider and Church with Pelfry and Humber to get Bedard and Ramon Hernandez.

  36. hoebaghoey says:

    I think while talking with the O’s they should consider trading for Daniel Cabrera. He should come cheap the O’s have been disapointed with his control and Rick Peterson could help him out. Not only could the Mets use him as a stater you could put him into a less demanding roll such as the bullpen and put Heilman in the rotation.

  37. landyg21 says:

    All I know is that Minaya has to get rid of Estrada in any deal that he makes.

    • acoustic567 says:

      I doubt that anyone would take Estrada in a trade. The Mets are just going to have to non-tender him. The Nats wouldn’t even take him from the Mets for free.

  38. Pedro says:

    If Bedard ends up getting dealt, chances are it only happens after the Santana situation is resolved. To deal Bedard now would be irresponsibe by the Orioles as once Santana is out of the equation..Bedard’s (as well as Haren’s) value would skyrocket.
    The good news is that if the Yanks don’t land Johan, they can’t steal Bedard since the owner of the O’s apparently hates the Yanks and would not deal to them.

    • Meddler says:

      The only way I might disagree with you is if the O’s might be interested in Ramon Castro. If they were looking for him to replace Ramon Hernandez, they’d probably have to act soon, as we’re approaching the non-tender deadline. If it means getting Bedard, I can stomach an Estrada/Schneider tandem.

  39. danarp says:

    Humber, Gomez and Martinez for Bedard and Tejeda.
    Than ship Tejeda to Anaheim for Jered Weaver

  40. TenTonHammer says:

    Who is going to trade for Estrada? He’s not under contract, he’ll be cut loose in a few days and everyone knows it.

    Think folks.

    “Than ship Tejeda to Anaheim for Jered Weaver”

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Meddler says:

      What Estrada does do though is give the Mets flexibility if someone likes Ramon Castro. If say, the Orioles, have Castro earmarked as a guy to replace Ramon Hernandez (or at least be a stopgap to Wieters), the Mets can discuss that possibility but only until the deadline to Tender Estrada a contract. After that, they’d have to get Hernandez back in any deal involving Castro.

  41. TilMetsDoUsPart says:

    Oh wow.

    Just look at the possibilites.

    Reyes, Wright, Beltran, Maine, Perez, Martinez remain Mets, and all the holes are filled by guys then I’m OK.

    Prefer to keep Wagner, Schneider, Feliciano and Pelfrey as well.

  42. landyg21 says:

    All I know the Mets are still the best team in the National League and there is no need to make a stupid move just to keep up with the Yanks and Boston. We need to make the World Series first before we get rid of the farm.

  43. rolson2386 says:

    yea i believe the estrada deal was just done to get rid of mota, as far of a johan deal, i strongly feel that he’s going no where… once hughes was offered and the twins didn’t act on that right away it was killed… considering pettitte is coming back I don’t see the need to trade away young talent… if at anytime he’s traded i could see it at next year’s deadline, after wear and tear of the first half change teams pitching staffs and line-ups… With the Mets i just don’t really see what the O’s are so impressed with the young talents we have, besides the untouchables… minaya did say the other day reyes is going nowhere and i firmly believe that… prepare from him to acquire lower tier pitching… which is no big problem as long as our offenses stable in the end and their are no major injuries

  44. reyes789 says:

    Matt, update please

  45. firemetmanagement says:

    No way they would trade Bedard this soon. It would be irresponsible on Baltimore’s part to not at least wait until the end of the Winter Meetings…

  46. chew13 says:

    Duquette is now Orioles GM. HE OWES US FOR THE KAZMIR-ZAMBRANO DEBACLE!! Do it Jimmy! Make it up to us, as much as you can.

  47. firemetmanagement says:

    mlbtraderumors.com doesn’t put much stock into this report, and they are very reliable…rotoworld is reliable too though, but they are basically getting their info from this site/WFAN, etc.

  48. Meddler says:

    http://mlb-rumors.blogspot.com/2007/12/report-mets-close-to-acquiring-bedard.html

    Hotfoot links to that site, I haven’t read it long but it usually seem’s pretty accurate.

    • gipper913 says:

      Same website now says:

      “UPDATE: The report that suggested Erik Bedard is on his way to the Mets is “false,” according to one executive with the Mets. However, talks are ongoing.”

  49. landyg21 says:

    then again brian cashman says there’s alot of interest in Farnsworth, lol.

  50. firemetmanagement says:

    From mlbtraderumors:

    Jays In On Bedard, Bay, And More

    The Globe and Mail’s Jeff Blair has several new rumors in his column tonight.

    * The Jays’ President, Paul Godfrey, is all about bringing in a big-name Canadian player. Blair rattles off Jason Bay, Erik Bedard, Ryan Dempster, Rich Harden, and Eric Gagne as available Canada natives. Of course, not all of those guys would be draws.
    * The Jays are indeed in on Bedard, which is a surprise since starting pitching is a strength of theirs. This idea has been around since at least May though. Blair talked to one exec who said the Jays are planning to get “aggressive and creative.” It had been previously thought the Jays would have a low-key winter.
    * Blair talks of somehow sending A.J. Burnett to Baltimore in a Bedard deal, which makes little sense for the O’s even if Burnett would like to play there. In my estimation the O’s could ask for Alex Rios or Dustin McGowan for Bedard. The Jays could try to push Adam Lind and Shaun Marcum instead but I don’t see that getting it done. I could see the O’s asking about Travis Snider as well.
    * Blair says the Jays could get Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum “right away” if they’d offer Rios to the Giants. Blair even says an expanded deal could send Lind and/or Troy Glaus over to San Francisco as well. Hmmm.

  51. therealsandman says:

    i just want some1 from an official site to announce it because its starting 2 upset me with all different reports

  52. Innis_2_winnis says:

    Humer, Heilman, Church, and PNL…for Bedard….wow. I’d be excited if that’s the final offer that got it done. However, I don’t see why Bal’s feet are to the fire to do this so quickly – a bidding war is to the O’s advantage.

    The pragmatist in me wants to wait to hear something official before I get too excited.

    Tonight’s been an emotional rollercoaster, reading “we’re in for this guy”, “we have no chance on that guy”. Whew…still a few days of Winter Meetings to go…

  53. nydre78 says:

    Tim Kurk…..Tim Kujr……..

    Tim K just said on espnews that the Mets and O’s are close to a deal that would send the O’s Heilman, Gomez, Humber and Mulvey for Bedard and a player to be named….

  54. TenTonHammer says:

    “Heilman, Gomez, Humber and Mulvey for Bedard and a player to be named….”

    I’d say that’s a win for us. Humber isn’t a big loss, Heilman is just a slightly above average reliever, and Gomez would need to go anyway.

    Do it, if it’s on the table.

    • Metsfan980 says:

      Heilman is not a slightly above average reliever. His 9 win shares last season left him tied for 6th on the most valuable National League relief pitcher rankings.

      Most of the pitchers ahead of Heilman were closers.

      • TenTonHammer says:

        I don’t put as much stock in things like win shares as I do times when he came through in clutch situations. Heilman has a propensity for giving up painful gopher balls.

        He’s not irreplaceable. And he shouldn’t be a dealbreaker.

        • Metsfan980 says:

          The only reason that a relief pitcher “chokes” in “clutch” situations, is because they blow a lead or give up a lead.

          Had they not done so and kept their team in the game or with the lead, then that game would be another forgotten successful performance.

          Heilman gave up eight homers last season, certainly not as many as most imply he gave up.

  55. TilMetsDoUsPart says:

    If it was a 3 team dael it couldve been a D’Ray

  56. rj101592 says:

    ESPN2 baseball tonight is on, and O’s GM is suppose to come on so stay tuned to that

  57. BiggieSmalls says:

    ive been saying for some time that the Road to an Ace is thru Baltimore and a stop at the salary dump buffett..

    an interesting match.. maybe ramon castro and ramon hernandez get paired off. the O’s have some hot C prospect they want to give some time to and Hernandez / scheider would make a good tandem.. assuming Estrada is non tendered.

    Mota would be a good take back if we incluude Church and Gomez in the deal.

    BRadford clearly has value and a cheap contract

    Danys Baez is laid up and will miss 08 and is due 12 mil over the next two years and has a bum arm

    Tejada we know about.. but he HAS to have some value in a trade../. the O’s may be asking too much but hes worth something?

  58. falcon4e says:

    What are they saying?

  59. zen says:

    definately would love to add bedard. his health is a bit of a concern, but not enough to stop a deal: bedard, maine, ollie would be nice for the next five years or so.

  60. Gilch says:

    his health to me is more than just a BiT of concern ….. but its still a move they MUST make

  61. Innis_2_winnis says:

    False rumor, eh?

    I wonder if it “false” because the original report was Humber, Heilman, Church, and a PNL for Bedard

    while

    Kurk’s report was Heilman, Gomez, Humber and Mulvey for Bedard and a PNL.

    Or maybe it is legitimately false. Or maybe they’re negotiating, as suggested by the update on the original report. O rmaybe I need to give up for the night, pour a scotch, and tie a fly.

  62. stickguy says:

    I would prefer to send GOmez over CHurch actually, assuming the pieces were tweaked appropriately.

    At least with CHurch they have a rF for 2008+. Gomez will be totally overmatched.

    The big danger with unloading for 1 SP is opening up holes elsewhere that come back to bite you in the butt.

    Humber, Heilman, Gomez only really hurts the pen, and that is the esiest place to dig up or mix and match soem live bodies.

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  65. Meddler says:

    Yeah but where does he play??? I guess you could just spin him at a pretty low price for a prospect or two. Craziness if this is true.

  66. mdemaio says:

    I was thinking the same thing…

  67. Meddler says:

    By trading for Bedard and Tejada and then trading Reyes for Santana. Its quite a thought huh??? Kinda tough to wrap your mind around.

  68. pifman says:

    Well you know if Reyes and say Fernando Martinez are involved along with other prospects I would be extremely angry if we only managed to get Bedard back for it. The only way I trade Reyes is if I get a good replacement and Santana. Then the other prospects the Mets include in the deal would go towards getting Bedard. It is plausible, not neccesarily possible but at least plausible.

  69. RespectDaBestRM says:

    its not only the wilpons. No owner in sports will release a player they just signed to a 4 year deal.

  70. pifman says:

    The only question is who do we have to trade to make them want to give up Bedard? If we take all of Tejada’s contract we would get him for practically nothing, but they didn’t seem to like our previous offers for Bedard and if the Twins want more than Reyes for Santana they can jump off the Empire State Building.

  71. pifman says:

    I disagree on your first statement. I completely agree with your second. Why would we ever trade a good pitcher for a better one? The better one costs extra prospects and extra cash and how many more games would Bedard win for us that Perez couldn’t? Maybe 4 or 5? Is that worth 3 or 4 prospects plus 10 million or so more a year?

  72. NYMetz6986 says:

    what you could do is trade reyes for santana and then package gomez for tejada…but lets hope they can get bedard without giving up reyes…gomez, fernando martinez, and heilman i would think have to all be involved for that to happen…but at this point im fine with that.

  73. natew says:

    In this senario, which seems like its not really much of a rumor now, I would imagine the Twins would get Bedard if they are giving up Santana. I guess the Orioles would get Reyes, and the Mets would get Santana and Tejada while giving the Twins another prospect as well like Gomez. (maybe the Mets send the Twins a prospect as well like Mulvey)

    Of course, Bedard makes little sense for the Twins because they would be in the same spot next off season with him instead. Especially if they can get Lester or Hughes who would be more valuable to them than Bedard.

    anyhoo, lets not get too hypothetically greedy ;)

  74. matt_bucc says:

    any trade including jose reyes is a terrible idea

  75. beltran07 says:

    metsblog just teamed up w/ sny so supposedly it’s easier for him to get rumors and news from the network that covers the mets???? idk

  76. TilMetsDoUsPart says:

    Especially after his deal with SNY I fully trust Matt.

    No matter what source.

  77. Deaner says:

    I actually can’t read

    My girlfriend read everything to me and she has a speech impediment so it makes it tough to understand … and ” “

  78. MrBotch says:

    4 or 5 more wins last year woulda had us in the playoffs

  79. pifman says:

    Besides the fact that I am simply guessing 3 or 4, the fabric of the season would have been different if Bedard had already been on the team. And that doesn’t answer the question of whether or not it is worth 3 of our best prospects plus the huge amount difference in annual salary. For all we know Bedard won’t get us a single victory more than Perez would have. Perez and Maine are above average pitchers for very cheap salaries. They aren’t going anywhere to acquire another pitcher unless it is straight up which would be hard to imagine.

  80. therealsandman says:

    yea i hope some1 finds this somewhere cuz its getting me excited

  81. landyg21 says:

    We are at the top but some people took the last 2 weeks off. Same rotation nothing special. Like I said, worry about getting to the world series, after that I’ll worry about what the needs are.

  82. matt_bucc says:

    replacing jose reyes with miguel tejada, even with the benefit of getting erik bedard, would be so incredibly stupid i don’t even want to think about it. i really hope that isn’t even a consideration.

  83. gipper913 says:

    Same website now has:

    “UPDATE: The report that suggested Erik Bedard is on his way to the Mets is “false,” according to one executive with the Mets. However, talks are ongoing. “