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Orioles COO Andy MacPhail says he expects to meet with Mets GM Omar Minaya about LHP Erik Bedard while in Nashville, reports Andrew Marchand of ESPN 1050 in New York.
…thanks to the always-information jason b for the link…
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Talking to reporters while in Nashville earlier today, McPhail said he is 
open to exploring offers for Bedard.
Last night, in the Washington Post, citing ‘league sources,’ Barry Svrluga wrote that Bedard has said he has no interest in signing a contract extension to stay with the O’s beyond 2009, which could provide additional motivation for his team to move him in a trade during this off-season.
…as i wrote earlier today, the early buzz from nashville suggests that to get bedard or Dan Haren, it may end up costing more than the Twins will get for santana, since, technically, the A’s and O’s do not have to make a trade…
…for instance, to get haren, the Mets may be asked to part with Carlos Gomez or Ryan Church plus Fernando Martinez, along with two pitchers, ranging from John Maine to Aaron Heilman to Phil Humber…for what it’s worth, i don’t believe the A’s have much interest in Mike Pelfrey…it will take a similarly large package to land bedard, who may cost more than haren at this point…
Meanwhile, ESPN.com writes that Bedard is drawing ‘massive interest’ from the Dodgers, Mariners, Mets, Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies, among others, though he writes that the Orioles think they could have a ‘potential match’ with the Dodgers.
I would sure hope so
Reel him in Omar!
Get it done Omar. Give them Humber, Gomez and $26 million in cash for Bedard.
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Stephen A Smith is on, what an idi0t.
He’s definitely entertaining, and pretty smart.
not to mention is thespian skills.
Get it done! Offer one of your kidneys omar!
talk is cheap
Yeha here is how the meeting will go:
“Knock at the door”
O’s GM: Who is it?
Omar: Its Omar Minaya..Im here to discuss the Bedard trade possibilites with you.
O’s GM: Ummm no one is in here!!!!
Omar: (knock knock)
O’s GM: Who is it?
Omar: House keeping..you want me freshin pillow.
O’s GM: Dead silence
thats all folks!
If genius thinks that talk is cheap, than that scenario is priceless.
church, gomez, humber, and heilman… erilk bedard
then get rowand for rf! Please…all of a sudden this team looks pretty darn good
Rowand for the kind of deal he wants would be a rip off. Expect the Rowand that we saw on the Sox to be the best you’ll get. Not very attractive.
I’d rather keep Church and just put in Guerra, but worsecomes to worse we trade both of them and have to either start Endy or make a not-so-big time deal to a free agent along the lines of Bradley or Hinske, which is perfectly acceptable if they can produce a .260-.280 average with some notion of power. After all, it’s only a 7 hitter.
Gomez, Heilman, Guerra and Mulvey/Humber for Bedard
With the possible addition of Estrada or Gotay to ’spice it up.’
I’d like to think of anyone in our starting lineup and Fernando Martinez as untouchable, and I’d really like to keep Pelfrey, but if it comes down to him I’d have to say deal him.
I doubt adding either estrada or gotay would spice anything up.
forget billy beane and oakland. i hate those mofos. go for bedard or stand pat with some tweaks and the youngsters playing important roles next season
And what? Finish third? No thanks.
This should be between the Mets, Dodgers, and DBacks because it’s unlikely that Baltimore wants to trade with NYY or Boston
We’re not going to get an ‘ace’ pitcher… And, given his injury history, I’d rather not give up a ‘huge’ package for Bedard…
it was an oblique injury. for example if BAL was in a playoff race he wouldve been back in a week
What about a few years ago… He missed an entire season with Tommy John surgery…
Actually, Bedard had TJ surgery once upon a time.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2003-07-28-tommy-john-q-and-a_x.htm
It’s done him well so far…
*go for bedard and if that doesn’t work out stand pat, etc…
Unless there is a surprise on the trade market, or if Willis actually is available for cheap.
Just please, no projects like D Cabrera or E Santana!
Stud or stand pat.
I’d rather see the kids play than the likes of washed up vets like Delgado and Green
Good thing Green isn’t on the team
Angels still need a power hitter, since Torii Hunter is not. How about sending Carlos Delgado to the Angels with a package of Pelfrey or Humber and another player for John Lackey. Mets agree to pick up $10 million of Delgado’s salary.
If the Mets can pick up 100 of Delgado’s outs, it might work.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Church is a guy the Orioles really want? I wouldn’t mind a trade of Humber/Mulvey, Heilman, Church, and Gotay.
If they wanted Church that much, but if Matt’s idea is really correct than it would take Gomez and Church. And frankly, I wouldn’t mind testing the low cost right fielders available.
I have a feeling this is what Omar has in mind, but no one can be sure… He is a rather secretive guy, and respectable in that way.
if we dont want him why would a lousy team like the Orioles “really want him”
I want an ace as much as the next guy, but does anyone else think offering Gomez/Martinez/Maine/Heilman is, lets say, a tad steep? Giving up our 2 best prospects and 2 of our very rare, already semi-reliable pitchers for one guy? I know the market is thin and the need to get starting pitching is great for us, but man, Bedard better win the cy young and WS MVP if we offer that much. Unless of course Minaya has a plan to get another solid middle rotation starter and middle reliever, which there aren’t exactly an abundance of. Just a thought.
agreed.
agreed
We are not getting Berdard..
Wasn’t it last Monday we were talking Santana deals?
Just stop with this Cerrone.. really.. it ain’t happening.
I agree. What i would much rather see is us biting the bullet a little and recognizing that we don’t have the pitching horses and spend some time building a farm system rather than dismantling the pathetic one we have any further. The Milledge trade was a step in the wrong direction for this reason. Even if we traded a lot and got Bedard, we lose Pedro after this season and we’d just be out there again with a gaping hole in our rotation. Time to start building that rotting foundation.
If our farm system is in fact “pathetic” then it wouldn’t be a big loss for it to be “dismantled.”
If the only fish in the sea are Santana, Haren, and Bedard, then our prospects don’t look too hot. But that doesn’t mean that that Gomez, FMart, Guerra, Mulvey, and maybe Pelfrey/Humber aren’t good prospects. They’re just not as good as the kind of prospects the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, and D-Backs can offer.
It’s become abundantly clear that having a farm system that can generate the kind of prospects those teams have is incredibly valuable. The only way to trade for a truly valuable major leaguer is to have some of those kinds of prospects to offer. That’s the only currency that has any purchase anymore.
to get haren, the Mets may be asked to part with Carlos Gomez or Ryan Church plus Fernando Martinez, along with two pitchers, ranging from John Maine to Aaron Heilman to Phil Humber
Seriously, what is Beane on?
Maine? hahahahahahahaha, you can make a good argument that Maine is even better than Haren. Maine has proven hu=imself in the playoffs. Haren might go bald trying to handle the NYC pressure.
This is not happening. Forget it. The Mets are going to have to back up the truck for this deal to work. Baltimore has all the leverage in the world. Gomez/ F-Mart/ Mulvey/ Humber wouldn’t even get it done. Unless it’s Santana, better off just standing pat.
So don’t do a deal unless it’s only for Santana? As good as Santana is, Bedard is a great pitcher and under control for 2 years. If they can get him by giving up Gomez, Church and Humber or some comparable package, you have to pull the trigger.
They can’t. That’s the point. And Bedard is excellent, but he’s a much bigger risk than Santana.
Matt was making a small hypothetical. That may not be everyone’s asking price.
Especially with the Twins setting sights on Lowrie/Masterson/Ellsbury/Lester.
The Mets somewhat close equivalent to that is Gomez/Church/Pelfrey(or Mulvey)/Heilman. Certainly perceivable that the O’s may accept that.
BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP*BEEP
There is NO WAY the Mets are going to come out on top of any trade for any of the big three or four pitchers that are being thrown out there. On top of that the only reason they are being put out there is because teams like the Twins and O’s know they can get a kings ransom for a stud pitcher this off season.
Sign a couple of #3/#4 starters (Silva and Livan)
Make a deal for someone to platoon with Church and Build the pen up to support Heilman and Wagner with some sure fire arms not hopefuls like Padilla and Sanchez.
As Cerrone has mentioned lets not set the bar too high this off season. All the talk on the message boards is fantasy. The reality is teams like the Dbacks, Dodgers, Yanks and red sox all have better prospects than us. The only people who think we have better prospects are US!
It doesn’t mean we can’t win. We can win!! Just add a few good pieces to the mix.
It’s evident that the Mets could have a talk and Matt’s idea is just as much fantasy as the prospect of the Mets not getting anyone. Getting declining, average-at-best pitchers won’t help us. We have 5 guys in the rotation with a lot of potential. 3 of whom probably won’t be all that good for full season.
Bedard is a bit of a worry with his injury history. Imagine trading the entire cupboard, and having him blow out his arm?
Oops.
IMO, and deal with Maine is a non starter. Based on how he is progressing (and age), there isn’t that much of a difference between Maine and Haren, Bedard, etc.
So, either add a new live arm, or don’t bother.
At this point, just go for it all and use 2008 to regroup. Dump Delgado too and find a younger bat.
That leaves them with 1 old guy (alou) with only year left on the deal. And Delgado isn’t going to be back anyway.
The only 2 old arms (other than Wagner) are only signed for 2008 too.
So, that leaves them free to go many directions for 2009, and gives all these “fallen” prospects another year to develop, and build value (for the team or a trade).
IMO, the best option is a mid-road approach. Try to get a young mid-rotation guy (Snell, etc.) to work into the rotation, and a RH bat (Mady, Mench type) to split time with Church and Delgado.
Take the best live arms for the pen, and see what happens.
Just please avoid dumb moves like 4 year deals to a stiff like Silva, or Livan.
He missed 3 starts in his second full season. I’m not worried. Even if he gave us 28 starts this year and not pitched in the playoffs it’d be worth it.
There is no way that Omar is going out and getting a Nady or Mench to platoon with Delgado. It’s just not happening.
No, Nady would spell church against tough lefites, and be the back up for Delgado too.
If it takes a package of Church/Gomez + Martinez + Humber + Heilman for Bedard, I would do it in a second.
However, adding Maine to that package makes it almost a useless venture for the Mets. Maine was probably our best pitcher last year – adding an ace while giving up a potential #2 is not worth it.
I don’t part for Martinez if we don’t get an all star bat in return.
FMart has proven nothing and if he does, well ya gotta give something to get something.
You know, people like him fora reason. And the facttaht his OPS was above .700 in AA is outstanding. He was the youngest in that class by 2 years I believe?
I think that trade would be ridiculous. No way you should ever give up that much.
Give them two MLB proven guys + a prospect + a second tier guy.
Church + Heilman + Gomez/Mulvey + Carp/Muniz/Caleb Stewart/Ben Johnson (not a bad deal, since the last two could be decent RH platoon options for Church).
Basically, they get two guys they know will be at least solid ballplayers who can contribute at the big league level. This gives them some sure things. Then they get one guy with some major upside who could end up being the jewel of the trade. The last piece is an attempt to catch lightning in a bottle.
That gets it done. Then the Mets need to fill in the corner OF spot and then find some relief pitching.
If I were the O’s I wouldn’t make that deal. I’d just call the GM behind Omar in line looking to add a stud SP and rip him off.
Dont have ur hopes up, omar will screw it up again
they prefer to laugh in his face as opposed to over the phone
In order to make a trade, the Mets will have to deplete themselves of all the top minor leaguers they have. It’s not worth it. Better to hope and pray that Mulvey/Pelfrey/Humber can make a positive impact on the team than trade the farm for the names mentioned, IMO.
Honestly, I will stand pat, we don’t have many high prospects like other teams (eg. Dodgers, BoSox) to get ace of any kind. It is sad unfortuately.
at this point I agree.
Snell/Nady for Heilman/Humber/Gomez? You know what? I think I would strongly consider that. Of course for that same reason people could say “thank God I am not Mets GM”. I read somewhere that Snell had more quality starts or just as many as Santana and a group of other pitchers. He’s 26, has had some success in the Majors, is cheap.
Yes, why would the Bucs deal him? Don’t know. He’s been rumored to be on the block. So, who knows? He wouldn’t thrill Met fans, but a rotation featuring Snell/Perez/Maine – ooooohh, personally I am salivating at the idea of three young starters under 27. Of course, Perez AND Snell were in a rotation together before.
You may be onto something, but I think the Pirates would be looking for something more along the lines of: Gomez, Pelfrey, and Mulvey. They’re rebuilding and would want more upside than Heilman or Humber (who isn’t highly thought of.)
Might be the way to go, depending on how you view Pelfrey.
Personaly, I wouldn’t do it. I’m not dealing Gomez/Pelfrey unless it’s for a big time pitcher. I don’t care how Pelfrey is viewed, I still have high hopes for him.
I absolutely agree with you Squad, I think that Snell is the guy that Omar should be targetting. I think that Pittsburgh would be willing to deal him (they are tired of him asking to be traded) and I think that you could snag him for the package I offered. I had no idea how good his season was (because of his record), the guy for the past two years has struck a ton of batters out, has pitched a lot of innings, and is a swing and miss pitcher, what the Mets are looking for.
Are you telling me Met fans wouldn’t be happy with a Martinez/Maine/Perez/Snell/Humber OR Pelfrey rotation with El Duque and/or Sosa in the bullpen. I think that is more than fine. We don’t need an ace to win it all baby, look at the ‘05 White Sox. Yes, having a Josh Beckett/Big Unit type pitcher is beautiful in the playoffs, but a lot of the time it’s the solid, steady rotations that end up winning it.
I am on board the Ian Snell to the Mets band wagon. I may be alone while Met fans are on board the Danny Haren, Erik Bedard, Johan Santana, give-me-a-household name pitcher bandwagons. But I think Snell could be our guy.
Save me a seat on your bandwagon. Window please.
when arent the Pirates rebuilding
How about Gomez/Humber/Mulvey/Church for Snell and Jason Bay?
I would strongly consider it. I like Bay a lot.
I do, too. I do, however, have concerns about his makeup.
Does he seem to anyone else to be that type of guy who doesn’t have thick enough skin to make it in NY?
Could just be me. From what I hear, he doesn’t even like to talk to the media in Pittsburgh…
I’m not as thrilled about Jason Bay as some people are. He’s kind of a one-dimensional player, though he’s a good hitter. I also would have doubts about his ability to play RF.
I would rather have a Church/Nady platoon than have Jason Bay as my everyday OF.
Snell is very interesting but omar likes to play with the big boys and then in the end, he gets nothing !
I would do the GHH deal (not to be confused with HGH). I want to keep Pelfrey though.
The Pirates would do it for Gomez’s potential, and Heilmann would be closer material for them. If not Humber, then Mulvey as the young SP to replace Snell.
Might be steep, but they still have Church for now, and F mart coming, so you take the chance.
Snell is exactly the type of guy they need right now.
The deal could include a few different names, depending on what Pitt needs. Gomez + gotaty? Carp? Who knows.
But a core of Gomez for Snell should be a no brainer.
how many teams have 3 #2’s? pedro could be and i feel perez and maine will be this year. besides glavine the starters pitched well during the end. go for bullpen!!! thats are need. get arms.
i am the 1st one to tell u im tired of not getting the BIG name. but look at the rocks, d-backs. we have a nice team. if u cant get a #1 sp get a killer in RF
I would agree, but even if we just went for arms we are still going to blow the pen in the second half if none of our starters can get through the sixth inning.
This team needs a big-time innings eater in the worst way. I am kind of starting to think that adding a Livan Hernandez, obviously not the sexy choice, wouldn’t be the worst thing we could do, assuming he could keep his ERA under 5.
We gotta have another SP. You can’t say Maine and Perez are legit #2’s until they show they can get you at least 6or 7 consistently. They are pulled in the fifth way too often.
Sometimes when the markey is unbalanced you have to zig instead of zagging.
Maine is worth more than Blanton. He has to be. Also worth more in the realm of bedard or Haren.
So if Blanton is supposedly worth a mother load of prospects, zag.
Omar can really screw with some minds telling GMs that he is looking to rebuild and will use Maine to do it.
Even if he isn’t serious, that would certainly deflate the egos of the GMs that are expecting Omar to drop his shorts and gut the team for a mediocre SP.
Of course, any deal would have to return a SP prospect (the Pelf/Humber/Mulvey we always have to include).
It is all a balancing act. If a deal is in place, or the current team is expected to be a WS contender, and still have a strong team in future years, stay the course.
If there are enough concerns that with maine we will fall short and may not be able to address the holes, then punt.
Unlike Oakland, even if the Mets traded Maine, they still have a lot of talent and can still win the division.
Even sign Silva as a stop gap.
Why not talk to the Dodgers about some of there many prospects? How about the Angels and howie kendrick?
Not that I am advocating trading Maine 9I prefer to build around him), just that maybe Omar should take advantage of a ridiculously heated market.
Analogy time: In the early 90’s, the Ferrari collector market went crazy. 100K cars were bid up to 7 figures. That dragged up the price of more average units.
So, why be the dope that paid $1,000,000 for a car now worth 100K again. Why not be the guy that sold it instead?
Then go buy a Porsche to do the same job!
You also have the horses to pull that off more than once. We’d net some serious booty by announcing to the world that Oliver Perez were available as well.
Young power lefty with nasty stuff, probably get you more in return than Maine would.
good idea. Put them both out there.
Why should the Mets always be perceived as walking around hat in hand hoping for alms? Why not become an aggressive player? Why should the Twins and As have all the fun yanking everyones chain?
It would really shift the balance of power, and put the media (and matt) into coranary failure!
According to Heyman:
“The Mets’ proposed trade for Bedard, apparently made a couple weeks ago, was comprised of outfield prospect Carlos Gomez, pitching prospect Philip Humber and reliever Aaron Heilman and still barely drew a response from Baltimore. Word is, the Orioles aren’t in love with Humber. And yet, a Mets person said they believe they are still alive for Bedard.”
Gomez+Humber+Heilman for Bedard? Throw in Pelfrey and let’s start the season!
I’ve read this so many times, my retinas hurt
mine are bleeding
if they do not get this done soon, they are going 2 miss out
I’m only 31 and my poor ticker can’t take this madness.
Omar you sly dog…I have just realized u are controlling our minds as fans, you have made us sooo sick of the possibilities …we all want u to stand pat now…..u dirty son of a *****………well i guess u are pulling it off…but thel ine at unemployment will be pretty long when next summer ends , so u should reserve a spot now. Chump!
Snell/Bay for a package of Church, Gomez, Pelfrey, Smith, Gotay. The Pirates do this for salary relief. if Snell puts up another season like 2007, he starts looking more like Bedard.
I am just glad I am getting support in my desire for the Mets to trade for Ian Snell.
We agree this could be the guy and could be had.
This trade thought has been out there for a LONG time…
But at what cost and how good is he really?
He had a 4.74 ERA then a 3.72 ERA. If he came for cheap that would be nice but I’d rather keep prospects than go for him.
The only former Pirate pitcher who has been all out successful in the 2000s has been Schmidt, and that’s all I can think of. Maybe it’s how their pitching coach works, but former Pirates’ pitchers don’t work out too well. Not even Benson turned out great.
Actually, Snell’s 2007 numbers look a lot like bedards 2006 numbers, plus Snell is going to be that magic age (27) next year. Bedard is 2 years older, so Snell is right on track for that big breakout year.
Just like John Maine.
Would Mets fans consider:
Getting Bedard and Tejada (and a prospect)
for
Church, Reyes, Heilman, and Humber (and/or another player)?
Just thinking out loud.
I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t do it, but at least the Mets get a top SS back in return (though a SS that is probably link the Mitchell Report in some way).
Actually never mind. . . Like I said just thinking out loud.
I do like the idea of trying to get Snell if possible.
Miguel Tejada + Mitchell Report = No Thank You
Didn’t realize you’ve seen the Mitchell Report…..
It’d be a gigantic defensive and offensive downgrade. I’d much sooner consider Matt’s offer or Gomez/Church, Martinez, Heilman and Humber for Bedard.
Would anybody consider AJ Burnett?
Does anyone have Jerry Koosman’s number maybe we can talk him out of retirement?
Maybe we can roll out Sid Fernandez??
Depends. His stuff is great but with his health I’d sooner have El Duque in the rotation.
We aren’t getting Bedard – and we aren’t getting an Ace. We don’t have what they want. Our only hope would be to take a risk on a Harden or Prior and hope a change of scenary does them well.
In my opinion we have more pressing needs than an Ace. Namely, our bullpen. Right now it hinges on a healthy Duaner Sanchez and Juan Padilla. But given last season that can’t be guaranteed. We lost out of Riske and Linebrink(thank god..don’t like him), but we need another late inning guy and a long relief guy. We don’t know which Joe Smith was the real Joe Smith, and we can’t trust Sele for keeping us in games when a pitcher gets knocked out early. Right now Wagner, Heilman, Feliciano, Smith, Sele, No Show, Sosa, and a boatload of young guys won’t cut it.
We also need another bat off the bench. Easley was miserable beyond his hot start, and then got injured to boot. Marlon Anderson is our PH Jesus, but we need more. We need another veteran guy to be a pinch hitter.
I left out Gotay for the bench.
Sele is gone. The perfect bench guy right now (with CHurch in RF) is Nady, although Mench might work.
We may have the Ace anyway. Actually, we have a former Ace (pedro) that you don’t know what he will give you, and 2 potential Aces just hitting prime Ace years (Maine and Perez).
That’s a lot better than most teams can say!
I’m in work right now, but I almost screamed really loudly when I saw that Sele is gone.
I agree 100%. We pretty much have 3 #2 starters, and if Pedro is at top strength now we’ll have an Ace and two #2’s. I have yet to jump on the “we need an Ace” bandwagon. Everyone is so angry about last year they think that’s a huge need. It isn’t. A shut down guy is a nice luxury, but it isn’t completely necessary. A strong bullpen to back up our starters is needed. I would think starters would be pressured to push themselves further in a game (beyond their limit) to save our weak bullpen.
Yes. Because of what napes22 said, Omar has been moved to lose his hopes. I trust Omar. If he says we’re in the runnin and we’re getting a guy, we’re getting him.
I can’t think of a time he lied. He hasn’t made that huge offer to Zito, made a huge deal before Winter Meetings, and isn’t getting rid of Reyes. Omar has been true to his word, and I trust him.
I’m not telling Omar how to do his job – I’m saying that I hope he keeps in perspective that there are other glaring needs on this team outside of a shutdown Ace.
i think a big problem with the mets system is that they seem to be infatuated with promoting prospects to higher levels then they are ready for…i.e. “challenging them.”
the problem arises when performance doesn’t equal promise and you wind up with players (like pelfrey) who don’t truly fit in any of the potential leagues…by that i mean, he’s seemingly not ready to be trusted as a member of the rotation on a hopefully contending team, and yet everyone thinks he should be mlb ready by now.
the reality is that prospects/players should stay in the minors until they absolutely force the big league club’s hand. for example the phils had ryan howard in aaa until he was what, 27. only then did they move thome, because it was clear that howard was capable and ready to achieve his potential and succeed at the next level.
guys like pelfrey, humber, gomez, and mulvey should all be in aaa next year, all year, unless needed for brief stints to plug injury holes.
as far as the ‘08 mets — why does everyone scoff at the notion of paying a guy like silva to be part of the rotation?
personally, i think silva would be a solid addition to the rotation.
he’s switching leagues and as a primarily ground ball pitcher getting away from astro turf (and so his numbers are likely to improve) and would easily be an improvement over and replacement for glavine next year.
‘07 Silva: 13-14 202ip, 2cg, 20hr, 89k, 36bb, 4.19era, 1.3whip
‘07 Glav: 13-8, 200ip, 1cg, 23hr, 89k, 64bb, 4.45era, 1.4whip
no, he’s not an “ace.” but he does make our rotation better next year on a team that just missed the playoffs — no matter how ugly the missing occurred.
a 4 year $40-50mil for a guy like that is not unreasonable, considering it’s basically less than or equal to what we paid Glav for his time in NY.
once he is signed…
then we can try to acquire a guy like bedard without having to make a deal with a gun to our head.
so we say to the orioles we’ll give you Gomez, Heilman, Humber, and Gotay…and be comfortable to walk away without Bedard in ‘08 if nec.
because frankly parting with a package like Gomez, Fmart, Heilman, Pelfrey, and Mulvey for any one player is absurd.
With a guy like Silva, just like with Glavine, you need a good defense. Neither pitcher will overwhelm you with their stuff. Silva doesn’t walk anyone…but those batters that don’t walk make contact. It’s almost a tossup for a guy like him depending on how lucky/unlucky he gets with the placement of the ball.
We have a good defense – and with the exception of left field, a good outfield. I think Silva could do well here. That being said, I still don’t want him.
per Matt “… to get bedard or Dan Haren, it may end up costing more than the Twins will get for santana, since, technically, the A’s and O’s do not have to make a trade…”
“the Mets may be asked to part with Carlos Gomez or Ryan Church plus Fernando Martinez, along with two pitchers, ranging from John Maine to Aaron Heilman to Phil Humber…”
If that’s what it costs we’ve gotta walk away from the table. It’s a seller’s market according to the reports. Why give up all our best prospects for the hope that one guy can bring us to the WS? We’re going to wind up like the Knicks if we follow that path.
To misquote Yogi: “if Branch Rickey were alive today, he’d be turning in his grave!”
Given all that, then yes to Silva or another free agent. No to any of these absurd trades. I think the media is partly responsible for the perception that demand is so lopsided.
I can’t believe that our prospects don’t have value. I know, I read the same things that everyone else is.
I think opposing GMs know that Omar’s balls are in a vice and they’re just squeezing and squeezing. They’re taking advantage of the fact that A) his a– is on the line B)he’s aggressive C)he has to make a splash. At the end of the day, Gomez and F-Mart are top OF prospects. Guerra and Mulvey are highly touted and and Pelfrey and Humber still have promise…their value isn’t completely gone.
I have to believe there’s attractive value there for opposing GMs in that list…they’re just seeing how much of that list then can get at once.
They have value, we just don’t have any blue chip prospects.
Whatever team loses the Santana sweepstakes will be a player for Haren/Blanton/Bedard. If we can’t compete with any of the other offers for Santana then why would anyone think we could put together an acceptable offer for any other ace. Not gonna happen.
Not too sure the Yanks are that eager anymore to get Santana with Petitte coming back, so if they back out, then maybe Red Sox back off with their package. Then Omar can make his pitch and convince the Twins they are better off getting Santana out of the American League where he will be a constant reminder. Omar may have to get another team involved in a 3 team trade.
This is all so important yet all kind of silly. A bit of a psychological game maybe. Why in hell would we include Maine in a package for either Haren or Bedard? Why don’t we offer Maine and have teams scramble like morons to get him instead, if it’s gonna be like that. Prospects yes, Maine no. For Santana it’s a different story.