Comments on: News: O’s to Meet the Mets about Bedard

By: hyperion4

hyperion4 — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:25:52 +0000

I’m not as thrilled about Jason Bay as some people are. He’s kind of a one-dimensional player, though he’s a good hitter. I also would have doubts about his ability to play RF.

I would rather have a Church/Nady platoon than have Jason Bay as my everyday OF.

By: hyperion4

hyperion4 — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 01:19:54 +0000

If our farm system is in fact “pathetic” then it wouldn’t be a big loss for it to be “dismantled.”

If the only fish in the sea are Santana, Haren, and Bedard, then our prospects don’t look too hot. But that doesn’t mean that that Gomez, FMart, Guerra, Mulvey, and maybe Pelfrey/Humber aren’t good prospects. They’re just not as good as the kind of prospects the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, and D-Backs can offer.

It’s become abundantly clear that having a farm system that can generate the kind of prospects those teams have is incredibly valuable. The only way to trade for a truly valuable major leaguer is to have some of those kinds of prospects to offer. That’s the only currency that has any purchase anymore.

By: toomanyuniforms

toomanyuniforms — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:12:08 +0000

They can’t. That’s the point. And Bedard is excellent, but he’s a much bigger risk than Santana.

By: cver

cver — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:18:20 +0000

This is all so important yet all kind of silly. A bit of a psychological game maybe. Why in hell would we include Maine in a package for either Haren or Bedard? Why don’t we offer Maine and have teams scramble like morons to get him instead, if it’s gonna be like that. Prospects yes, Maine no. For Santana it’s a different story.

By: happyrecap

happyrecap — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:16:37 +0000

Not too sure the Yanks are that eager anymore to get Santana with Petitte coming back, so if they back out, then maybe Red Sox back off with their package. Then Omar can make his pitch and convince the Twins they are better off getting Santana out of the American League where he will be a constant reminder. Omar may have to get another team involved in a 3 team trade.

By: letz_go_metz

letz_go_metz — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:10:36 +0000

per Matt “… to get bedard or Dan Haren, it may end up costing more than the Twins will get for santana, since, technically, the A’s and O’s do not have to make a trade…”

“the Mets may be asked to part with Carlos Gomez or Ryan Church plus Fernando Martinez, along with two pitchers, ranging from John Maine to Aaron Heilman to Phil Humber…”

If that’s what it costs we’ve gotta walk away from the table. It’s a seller’s market according to the reports. Why give up all our best prospects for the hope that one guy can bring us to the WS? We’re going to wind up like the Knicks if we follow that path.

To misquote Yogi: “if Branch Rickey were alive today, he’d be turning in his grave!”

Given all that, then yes to Silva or another free agent. No to any of these absurd trades. I think the media is partly responsible for the perception that demand is so lopsided.

By: napes22

napes22 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:10:11 +0000

They have value, we just don’t have any blue chip prospects.

By: napes22

napes22 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:08:50 +0000

With a guy like Silva, just like with Glavine, you need a good defense. Neither pitcher will overwhelm you with their stuff. Silva doesn’t walk anyone…but those batters that don’t walk make contact. It’s almost a tossup for a guy like him depending on how lucky/unlucky he gets with the placement of the ball.

We have a good defense – and with the exception of left field, a good outfield. I think Silva could do well here. That being said, I still don’t want him.

By: napes22

napes22 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:05:55 +0000

I’m not telling Omar how to do his job – I’m saying that I hope he keeps in perspective that there are other glaring needs on this team outside of a shutdown Ace.

By: napes22

napes22 — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:04:29 +0000

I’m in work right now, but I almost screamed really loudly when I saw that Sele is gone.

I agree 100%. We pretty much have 3 #2 starters, and if Pedro is at top strength now we’ll have an Ace and two #2’s. I have yet to jump on the “we need an Ace” bandwagon. Everyone is so angry about last year they think that’s a huge need. It isn’t. A shut down guy is a nice luxury, but it isn’t completely necessary. A strong bullpen to back up our starters is needed. I would think starters would be pressured to push themselves further in a game (beyond their limit) to save our weak bullpen.