Comments on: Buzz: Dodgers and O’s close on Bedard http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: cjb430 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54655 cjb430 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:46:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54655 I would agree with you, except that Reyes and Wright both came up with losing teams. Since the team has started contending again, the younger players have had a much shorter leash. That's the only way Brian Lawrence got so many starts down the stretch. I would agree with you, except that Reyes and Wright both came up with losing teams. Since the team has started contending again, the younger players have had a much shorter leash. That’s the only way Brian Lawrence got so many starts down the stretch.

]]> By: matt_bucc http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54507 matt_bucc Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:38:27 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54507 what can omar do? no one likes our trading chips. what is he supposed to do? what can omar do? no one likes our trading chips. what is he supposed to do?

]]> By: matt_bucc http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54493 matt_bucc Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:35:02 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54493 what i don't understand is how matt kemp and jonathan broxton gets this deal done for the dodgers, but some sort of combination among gomez/heilman/church/humber/pelfrey/fmart won't do it for the mets. same with johan. the sox have a superior package to anything we could put together, but melky cabrera was about to be a centerpiece in a yankees deal for santana. melky's such a scrub - his ceiling is ryan church, right now. the yankees young players all get collectively fellated by the media while our prospects are put down. i don't get it and it's extremely frustrating. what i don’t understand is how matt kemp and jonathan broxton gets this deal done for the dodgers, but some sort of combination among gomez/heilman/church/humber/pelfrey/fmart won’t do it for the mets. same with johan. the sox have a superior package to anything we could put together, but melky cabrera was about to be a centerpiece in a yankees deal for santana.

melky’s such a scrub – his ceiling is ryan church, right now. the yankees young players all get collectively fellated by the media while our prospects are put down. i don’t get it and it’s extremely frustrating.

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54472 stickguy Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:24:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54472 the team will be fine even if they go as is. THey will add a SP somehow, just please, not livan. ANyone else but him. the team will be fine even if they go as is. THey will add a SP somehow, just please, not livan. ANyone else but him.

]]> By: cjb430 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54471 cjb430 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:24:00 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54471 Did I miss something? What have the Braves or Phillies done to make us so clearly a third place team? Is Brad Lidge that much of a difference maker? Did I miss something? What have the Braves or Phillies done to make us so clearly a third place team? Is Brad Lidge that much of a difference maker?

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54469 stickguy Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:23:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54469 120 for 6? Certainly fits the model of a Mets starter! 120 for 6? Certainly fits the model of a Mets starter!

]]> By: hyperion4 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54450 hyperion4 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:18:03 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54450 Your terms of analysis are absolutely correct, but I disagree in one respect. When trading a guy like Bedard, a team would rather have one or two "A" players than a dozen "B+" players. That's the way I would look at it, anyway. That's why so many Mets fans are lukewarm on Ryan Church. They want a blockbuster guy. Unless we have "A" players to deal, we're going to have to set our sights on something less glamorous than Bedard. I read a piece suggesting that Omar may turn to relievers at this point to give him what he can't get in the starters market. I have no idea who that would be. Maybe Rauch or Cordero. Your terms of analysis are absolutely correct, but I disagree in one respect.

When trading a guy like Bedard, a team would rather have one or two “A” players than a dozen “B+” players. That’s the way I would look at it, anyway. That’s why so many Mets fans are lukewarm on Ryan Church. They want a blockbuster guy. Unless we have “A” players to deal, we’re going to have to set our sights on something less glamorous than Bedard.

I read a piece suggesting that Omar may turn to relievers at this point to give him what he can’t get in the starters market. I have no idea who that would be. Maybe Rauch or Cordero.

]]> By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54443 stickguy Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:15:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54443 that is 4 teams with all these chips. And it is debatable about the Yankees. So basically, the Mets are inthe same boat as 90% of the teams in MLB. THe couple of teams that end up loaded with ML ready prospects are the anomoly, not the MEts. In a couple of years, the Mets could be inthat position with Guerra, F Mart, etc. that is 4 teams with all these chips. And it is debatable about the Yankees.

So basically, the Mets are inthe same boat as 90% of the teams in MLB.

THe couple of teams that end up loaded with ML ready prospects are the anomoly, not the MEts.

In a couple of years, the Mets could be inthat position with Guerra, F Mart, etc.

]]> By: Philnym31 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54421 Philnym31 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:09:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54421 “One of the recurring themes of this offseason has been teams’ floating the names of all kinds of pitchers you’d never think they’d trade, just to see what sort of response they get. Well, here’s another one: Pittsburgh’s Ian Snell. Teams that have talked to the Pirates say they’re in the midst of a monstrous internal debate about whether they’d be willing to at least dangle Snell, a major 26-year-old talent who had more quality starts this year (22) than Santana or Roy Oswalt and a better strikeout rate (7.66 per 9 innings) than Carlos Zambrano or Ben Sheets.” - Jayson Stark on November 21, 2007 Make it happen Omar. “One of the recurring themes of this offseason has been teams’ floating the names of all kinds of pitchers you’d never think they’d trade, just to see what sort of response they get. Well, here’s another one: Pittsburgh’s Ian Snell. Teams that have talked to the Pirates say they’re in the midst of a monstrous internal debate about whether they’d be willing to at least dangle Snell, a major 26-year-old talent who had more quality starts this year (22) than Santana or Roy Oswalt and a better strikeout rate (7.66 per 9 innings) than Carlos Zambrano or Ben Sheets.” – Jayson Stark on November 21, 2007

Make it happen Omar.

]]> By: boredatwork http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54403 boredatwork Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:05:21 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/04/buzz-dodgers-and-os-close-on-bedard/#comment-54403 We're done....we ain't gettin' sh1t We’re done….we ain’t gettin’ sh1t

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