Matthew Cerrone

Buzz: Mid-Day Update from Pitcher’s Market
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 4, 2007 1:27 pm

According to Jon Heyman from SI.com, the Mets and Dodgers are at the ‘forefront of talks’ involving Orioles LHP Erik Bedard.

well, this is interesting, because the Dodgers are also interested in Marlins 3B Miguel Cabrera, who will likely cost a similar package as needed to get bedard…damn, this is all connected

In a post to ESPN.com, Amy Nelson writes that Bedard will cost a ‘superior package of prospects,’ while adding that the O’s are telling clubs they already have four teams with ‘very promising packages.’

…thanks to birkhead for the tip

…as i noted earlier, the word from Nashville is that Mets GM Omar Minaya and a few of his assistants either met with, or are set to meet with, representatives from the Orioles in baltimore’s hotel suite following this morning’s State of the GMs get-together

the buzz from baltimore, not Nashville, but from baltimore, continues to suggest that the O’s still don’t really want to trade Erik Bedard, and so he may cost a team more than the Twins get for Johan Santana…they are debating whether to trade him for talent that can help next season or keep him, allow more time for an extension and if it can’t work out they can always trade him next off-season, after which he will still be under control by his new team through the following season…however, it’s quite clear that they’re working hard to determine his value, and will not hesitate to pull the trigger if the right deal comes along

frankly, i keep sensing that, while they’re totally focused on bedard right now, as they should be, the Mets also have interest in A’s RHP Joe Blanton, more than they do in his teammate, Dan Harenalso, there is some indication that the Mets could have interest in LHP Noah Lowry, should he be available

In 26 starts this past season for the Giants, the 27–year-old, left-handed Lowry was 14–8 with a 3.92 ERA, during which opponents hit .265 against him.

However, he had been 9–6 with a 3.33 ERA at the All-Star break. He missed all of September with a sore elbow, on which an MRI revealed a mild strain and no structural damage.

Lowry will earn $2.25 million in 2008, and $4.5 million in 2009, after which he can be a free agent.

…while in Nashville, our on-site eyes and ears, Joel Lipsky, talked with Susan Slusser, who covers the A’s for the San Francisco Chronicle, who said that, from what she understands, A’s GM Billy Beane is very prepared to move Dan Haren and Joe Blanton, but that the Mets fit better for blanton…however, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney told joel that the Mets do not fit well for blanton, or haren, because beane is not impressed by Mike Pelfrey and Phil Humber, and he must bring back two, young starting pitchers in a trade

Beane, as recently quoted by USA Today, when asked about Haren and Blanton…

“If somebody offers you everything west of the Mississippi, you have to listen. If Thomas Jefferson didn’t listen to offers, half of the U.S. would be French. Some people thought it was a bad deal at the time, but I think he proved to be right.”

Meanwhile, in his post to SI, Heyman also reports that the Mets are among teams who are pursuing free-agent RHP Freddy Garcia, who will not be able to pitch until June, ‘at the earliest.’

…to be honest, i recall hearing yesterday that the Mets may be the front runners for garcia, but are holding back until they know how best to proceed in the trade market

Lastly, according to MLB.com, citing ‘a source,’ the Nationals may be willing to give Livan Hernandez a two-year deal.

…if you recall, multiple reports over the last week had suggested the Mets were debating whether to sign hernandez…in fact, ESPN.com made another reference to this today…i dig hernandez, but not at more than two years…no way, no how

For the sake of argument, so to try and gauge our collective expectations, if the Mets end up acquiring Blanton or Lowry, while also signing, say, Freddie Garcia or Bartolo Colon to a one-year deal, will you be satisfied with Omar Minaya’s efforts to upgrade his team’s starting rotation?

Do you think Daniel Murphy is a viable option to start at second base for the Mets in 2009?


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Comment by kevin2elster21
2007-12-04 13:30:37

If you sign one of these fatso’s to a one year contract, they’ll make 3 good starts and begin whining about an extension.

Comment by plummetdown
2007-12-04 13:31:59

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7523082

we don’t need a big pitcher minaya.

basically he is content with Livan Hernandez

Comment by plummetdown
2007-12-04 13:37:55

CAN’T BELIEVE MINAYA SAID WE DON”T NEED A BIG PITCHER.

READ THE ARTICLE.

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Comment by whynot
2007-12-04 13:40:30

What do you want him to say? I’ll give up anything for an ace pitcher. That’s a great bargaining strategy.

Come on, be reasonable.

 
Comment by plummetdown
2007-12-04 13:43:21

nah i truly do think minaya believes that.

and mets will end up with Livan Hernandez.

its something to say when your best move of the year is when you trade millidge for 5 million dollar 2.20 hitting catcher and 29 year old outfielder.

 
Comment by whynot
2007-12-04 13:43:47

well, i am in atlanta.

 
 
 
 
Comment by genius
2007-12-04 13:31:49

3rd place. with or without bedard. worse with any of these other schlubs

 
Comment by metsfanspleasestopbeingnegative
2007-12-04 13:33:51

We should overwhelm Baltimore for Bedard and keep as much of our prospects as possible

would love for our rotation to be

Bedard
Pedro
Maine
Perez
+1 to be signed

and move El Duque to the pen

would the Orioles take Pelfrey, Humber, Gotay, Church, Joe Smith & Heilman for Bedard & Bradford (who was crap for them last year) ?

that would work for me

we’d keep Gomez & F. Martinez that way too

Comment by Steal Home Jose!
2007-12-04 13:36:07

Old Saying, they want Quality not Quantity. O’s like Gomez, he will be included in any deal.

 
Comment by plummetdown
2007-12-04 13:36:50

they say you need more of a better package for bedard. so….

i’m sure orioles knows gomez and f.martinez are good. so no trade without them.

everyone else has no trade value.

 
 
Comment by TheLiability
2007-12-04 13:35:30

I would love to end up with a Blanton or Lowry and a Cabrera… One inning eater and another Bmore project we can take advantage of….

 
Comment by SurferD
2007-12-04 13:36:46

How bout we trade for Blanton or Lowry and sign Livan?

 
Comment by longtimesufferingmetsfan
2007-12-04 13:38:25

why has there never been a poll on the milledge trade?

Comment by JR.
2007-12-04 13:45:22

I think everyone knows the results of that poll already…

unless church is involved in a deal for santana out of the middle of nowhere…(daydreaming)

 
 
Comment by whynot
2007-12-04 13:39:16

If it’s us and the Dodgers, I like our chances a little better. Their prospects are much better than ours, but they seem reluctant to give up a whole lot. They already have a near 1 in Penney, Lowe at 2, and Billingsley as an ace in waiting. Plus, they don’t want to eat any money. Hopefully something,m anything can work to our advantage.

 
Comment by christian warrior
2007-12-04 13:39:34

I wasn’t always of this position, but I now think that the Mets are best served if they can work a deal for Bedard, (or whomever), without giving up Heilman. At this point, it might be an easier task to finally give Heilman his shot at the rotation and find someone to replace him in the bullpen.

That way we don’t have to stomach watching Colon, Livan, or Carlos Silva.

Bedard
Pedro
Maine
Perez
Heilman

That looks pretty strong to me…

Comment by wannabegm
2007-12-04 13:48:38

eddie coleman mentioned on the wfan about an hour ago that he thinks Heilman if traded can win near 15 games next year.
I would not be surprised in the least if he does.

 
Comment by 1-18-31-7
2007-12-04 13:49:38

heilman should be a SP.

Comment by wannabegm
2007-12-04 13:56:39

I don’t think Blanton has anything on Heilman, except poundage. We need to hold our cards. I think there is a significant upside to Pelfrey and I think it is premature to trade him. See John Maine and the Orioles.

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Comment by TheLiability
2007-12-04 13:40:55

Please lets not forget Mr. Minaya aquired maine and OPerez for next to nothing. Where would this team be without them?

Comment by gomets2008
2007-12-04 13:45:30

Well said….I also really lke Ryan Church….I bet everyone will be praising Minaya by mid season when Church is killing the ball.

 
 
Comment by throatneedle
2007-12-04 13:43:38

what…..no santana 3% chance coming to the mets updates from matt? he must be turning a new leaf!

of the 3 fatsos i’d rather have livan believe it or not. blanton to me is WAY overrated and freddy is crap. bartolo colon is not the answer

 
Comment by metzor
2007-12-04 13:45:55

I would be satisfied if the Mets got a Joe Blanton + Silva/Colon/Livan. That will mean that maybe we didn’t get an ace, but we’ll have a more solid rotation and most likely didn’t have to leave our farm system a barren wasteland, which is what will happen in order to get Santana/haren/bedard.

Pedro
Maine
Blanton
Perez
Silva/Livan/Colon/El Duque

I can live with that if it means we keep most of our prospects, and heilman. Of course we’d love an ace, but so would every other team.

 
Comment by gowrightgo
2007-12-04 13:49:00

I think we could do alot worse than simply upgrading our back end.

I could actually live with 2 Free Agent pick ups…

Colon and Silva.

rotation would be
Pedro
Maine
Perez
Silva
Colon

Duque to the pen
Pelfrey to the pen or in AAA
Humber and Mulvey get a year in AAA

Then in 2008 offseason we are far better off with all our chips (hopefully one of them pan out of the 3 in AAA, Pelf, Humb, Mulv)
plus another good year of Maine and OP

Our starting pitching problem this year was no ace and an injured Duque plus a revolving and terrible 5th starter spot

Well we should have an ace or something close in Pedro.
Moving Duque to the pen eliminates the issues of his durability from a starting pitching perspective and getting Colon and Silva certainly helps for depth and solid back end potential

Comment by wannabegm
2007-12-04 13:59:45

I’m more amenable to your plan than trading our prospects.
Good points.

Comment by Hit The Weights Zeile
2007-12-04 14:18:31

im fine wth trading the prospects. the draft this year is supposed to be pretty decent and we have those two picks from atlanta. if omar and crew through around some cash on draft day we couple probably replace those guys we traded.

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Comment by wannabegm
2007-12-04 14:57:10

Well that’s encouraging. Didn’t know that about the draft quality.

 
 
 
 
Comment by 1-18-31-7
2007-12-04 13:52:16

church for lowry?

 
Comment by terlis
2007-12-04 14:02:29

Considering the Giants have interest in Tejada at short, it might be possible that they are trying to work out a three-way deal with them right now:

Mets get: Bedard, Lowry
O’s get: Gomez, Humber, Pelfry, + player(s) to be named
Giants get: Tejada, Mulvey, Church

O’s clear some salary, Met’s pick up a portion of Tejada’s salary.

Thoughts?

Comment by therealsince86
2007-12-04 14:07:45

Obviously I love that but it would take that package just to get Bedard.