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…on monday night i wrote that the word from Nashville, from a few different corners, suggested that the Twins are once again contacting teams, other than the Yankees and Red Sox, to discuss offers for 
Johan Santana…
During a recent spot for ESPN News, ESPN.com’s Keith Law said that the Twins have once again reached out to the Mets, Dodgers and Angels regarding Santana.
…i’m glad to hear of this, because i can’t help but wonder why Ryan Church, Carlos Gomez, Aaron Heilman and Mike Pelfrey are not on par with Jon Lester, Coco Crisp, Justin Masterson and Jed Lowrie, which had been the rumored deal being offered from boston…
According to a post for the Boston Globe, Gordon Edes writes that the Red Sox may be becoming ‘ambivalent,’ and, at this point, there is as good of a chance that Santana gets traded to the Red Sox, as there is that he will not be traded to the Red Sox.
…Update…11:00 am…
In the Daily News, Bill Madden writes that the return of Andy Pettitte for 2008 has all but eliminated the Yankees from trying to acquire Santana.
According to Madden, “In the end, Cashman prevailed, convincing Hank and Hal Steinbrenner of something he could never have done with their dad - that trading for Johan Santana was simply too expensive for the New York Yankees.”
…Update…11:20 am…
According to Jerry Crasnick, at ESPN.com, the Red Sox are the only team ‘publicly linked’ to Santana.
Meanwhile, this morning on ESPN Radio’s Mike and Mike, ESPN.com’s Buster Olney said that Twins may be leaning towards keeping Santana.
They’re just playing with our heads…Santana is staying right where he is
I agree - those packages from the Red Sox were not that overwhelming. Obviously, biased as a Mets fan, I still feel we have the chips to compete with both of the rumored Boston offers. I would be shocked if the Twins accepted either of the Boston offers.
How can the Twins afford to let that happen? I mean, if they take Santana at his word and assume that he will veto a trade in-season, why would they risk getting nothing in return?
I think that there is no way Johan stays with the Twins to start the season. They can get far more by trading him now then they could get if they try and trade him at the deadline and he vetoes, leaving them with only the compensatory draft picks from the team that he signs with via free agency.
I’d agree that they are not trading Santana or Nathan right now. I could be wrong, but it just seems that no one will blow them away with a deal.
I don’t think the Twins are in the power position in these negotiations. The entire baseball world knows that they are taking a sizeable risk by keeping him on their roster. The Twins know that they must trade him and bring a return for the best pitcher in baseball. Compensatory draft picks are not enough should he veto an in-season trade and walk next offseason.
Those are all definitely good points. There’s just some reason that I think Johan will be the opening day starter for the Twins. If Liriano is healthy and that lineup can perform even a little bit better than last season, I could see them in contention…
I think there is a chance that the Red Sox may only have wanted to stall to keep the player away from the yanks,
Having done that….maybe now they pull back one of their players to put someone else in and Twins balk.
Or maybe it is th e Twins getting cold feet
Using everyone else as leverage.
which is exactly why Omar has been smart not to try to blow teams away with his best offer. The question I have is will Omar know when it is time to go there… the little mountain climber is going up the hill… music playing…
Hey did anyone see that article written on http://www.metsblog.com about Cerrone and MetsBlog joining forces with SNY? I think it’s spot-on accurate and was just wondering what other people thought?
Andy by metsblog I meant article written on http://www.metsmole.com about Cerrone and Metsblog joining forces with SNY.
Hah.. I knew that my comment wouldn’t get posted. What a schill. ridiculous.
Obey your masters at SNY cerrone. what a joke.
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you people crack me up…
Matt…congrats man on the merger….you’ve earned it.
you don’t owe anyone here a thing as some comments would lead you to believe.
build your business how you’d like and thanks for all you do…
Who’s the publicity hound here? Looking for a few more hits on your website? Why don’t you just write your arguments against the merger here instead of linking to it? Or at least write a few points about it.
Do we actually know if Cerrone will be leaving the comfort of working from home (or Starbucks or anyplace really) to sit in an SNY office everyday 9-to-5? Or did the author just assume that? Maybe wrongly?
At any rate, I’m not worried about Cerrone’s autonomy or integrity. If you’ve been coming here for years like I’ve been, it’s clear that his standards are pretty high. And I don’t always agree with him. Maybe the author of that article is a little jealous of all the success Metsblog has had? How many hits a day does that site get? Maybe a couple hundred at most?
Well said VC!
And to the linker, if you’re going to try to promote yourself you might try to remember your site’s name when doing so.
It would be funny if that was my website and I was linking to it so that I could get some extra hits.. it’s too bad I was sent that from a friend and thought it was quite hilarious… take it easy guys
to me that article is a LOT of speculation and evem more assumption… i think after the meetings die down cerrone should address some obvious concerns or questions loyal metblog readers have
I agree with you Giaco. That’s the problem here. I rely on this site for all of its great information. I am just a bit concerned about the integrity when I read about this merger. I can’t knock Cerrone for partnering up with the Mets but don’t you all agree that the mets need him probably more so than he needs them? The guy had 90,000 visitors look at this site yesterday… I bet SNY’s website had 9. It’s a joke.
how about when cerrone starts charging a fee for content, we start to care about what he does with this site.
I have Santana fatigue. I could care less where he lands at this point, if anywhere. This entire offseason has been worse than the collapse. Let’s just come to the realization that Omar isn’t good and deal with the fact that our only moves this winter will be Stokes, Schneider, and Church. Maybe we pick up bartolo and livan.. whoopie.
That would be more moves than 27 out of 29 other teams made so far.
So.. you think that by making moves, it is completely trivial as to what the moves actually are? Picking up a 7.07ERA pitcher from TB is hardly a move worth bragging about. And the Lastings deal put a stigma on our farm that we don’t have faith in our players. Well played sir, will played.
No, I mean you are overreacting to the fact that Omar has not made any moves when no other team has yet and there are still a lot of chips to fall. I should have realized from your first post you wouldn’t see the forest through the trees.
That’s not fair, give Omar the offseason to remake the team. It sounds like there’s a chance we can jump back into the Santana race at least.
It’s not fair to judge a GM based on phone calls he receives.
That being said, if the Opening Day roster looks like it does right now, I’d consider the offseason to be a huge failure. After the collapse, the team needed a definite shakeup, and we really haven’t gotten that.
No Green, no Mota, no Glavine. It’s not a monumental shakeup, but I’m glad we won’t have to watch those bums in 2008!
or maybe it is just the twins posturing against the sox…well if you are going to take all freaking day, we will just “look elsewhere” and see what we can get instead…but yeah cerrone why wouldn’t pelfrey, church, gomez & heilman NOT trump what the sox rumored best offer is?
h3ll, I would drive em all to the airport if needed, and pay for them to fly first class -> but still this is just some schmuck trying to get our hopes up only to have them dashed soon thereafter…I would give the farm minus F-Mart & Guerra (Guerra mostly because he is an unproven commodity at that age) but still, who wouldn’t? then we can sign dotel & he can pitch every other month, maybe try to trade for marte but we would still need another BP arm, even though BP’s are built with smoke and mirrors most of the time - heck we have enough in house options like collazo, muniz, kunz, etc (at least try them since we spent such high draft picks to get these middle relievers anyways)
what i want to know is why wouldnt maine, gomez, and oh i dunno humber or something. I realize that you still have the hole there, and john maine is popular, and cheap but still. People seem to percieve him as a very solid pitcher, certainly more established than lester.
All this back on forth is making me a manic-depressive. I’m about ready to slip into coma for the next few weeks.
Why though? Because the Yankees rejected the Twins and are looking for other teams to foolishly overpay for Santana? I mean, let’s get real here … Johan Santana is one of the best pitchers in the game, a hall of fame caliber pitcher that will have a Immediate impact on any clubs starting rotation but not only do clubs have to give up their prospects, they got to give him alot of money on top of that.
They need to seriously either lower their demands or just give it up and come to grips with that they will lose Santana and get two draft picks for him when he goes into free agency next offseason.
Sports reporters will put anything out there this time of year. If they’re wrong (about alleged “sure things”) no one remembers, they just want their names to be seen on top of the hottest rumors. The Mets aren’t getting any marquee starting pitcher. I don’t consider that Mets package to be any better than the Sox (whose package was notably inferior to the Yankees’ - now I see that Cashman never wanted to do the deal in the first place, they rejected one without Kennedy). The Mets are not getting Johan Santana, not Dan Haren, and not Erik Bedard. It kills me because this team needs that dominant ace so bad, and they won’t get him.
It seems like the Red Sox don’t really need him. Sure, nice to have, but more a luxury.
The Yankees have more of a SP need, unless they are will to go with 2 rookies, and at least 1 stiff (Mussina).
So I would think the Yanks are