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Rumor: Mets, A’s, Twins in a Three-Way
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 5, 2007 4:53 pm

At MLB Trade Rumors, citing ‘a trusted New York sportswriter,’ the always-informative Tim Dierkes writes that the Mets, A’s and Twins are discussing a three-way trade that could send Johan Santana, Dan Johnson and Bobby Crosby to the Mets, who would part with Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot, who would all end up in Oakland, who would send Dan Haren to the Twins.

well, it’s officially that time of the week, i guess…

…my first problem with this is, why on earth would an anonymous new york sports writer leak this to a blog, when he could just break the story himself…that said, my guess is that the guy was simply thinking out loud, and playing mock-gm himself…nevertheless, wow…i mean, really wow…to be honest, i’m not even sure this deal would get approved in my fantasy league, let alone actually come to fruition in MLB

124 Responses to “Rumor: Mets, A’s, Twins in a Three-Way”

  1. yosi says:

    Not down on this deal. Don’t want to give up Reyes for Santana. I thought Minaya said we were against that. Why would we do this now?

    • WozzyBearRU says:

      The Twins would need more than just Dan Haren in return for Johan Santana. I’d be shocked if the trade went down as stated.

      That said, I love Jose Reyese way too much. I’m not ready to give up on him yet.

      • jdon says:

        right –and when they tried to trade haren as he approached free agency they would be in a weaker position than they are now. more bodies, please.

        • belboy01 says:

          WFAN just reported this is not true…that they are in talks, but refuse to move reyes or wright…nothing has changed, except that the twins are listening to what is out there.

    • ravi3 says:

      I went as far as checking stats/splits for Crosby (lifetime .240 hitter, hasn’t plays in a 100 games since ‘04 or ‘03) and Dan Johnson (nice .355obp with .270ish avg, but not exactly it, and where exactly would he fit on this team?)

      Within 5 seconds of seeing stats, I came to a decision:

      NO DICE

      • liman73 says:

        JOSE, JOSE, JOSE, JOSEEEE!!!!

        JOSEEEEEEEEE, JOOOOOOOOO-SE!!!!

        DO NOT TRADE NUMBER SEVEN!!!!!

    • belboy01 says:

      …I really hope this is a joke…

      …I still can’t understand how you value such a dynamic player like Reyes to a guy that only plays 25 games a year…i just don’t get it…

    • dk70 says:

      Hopefully this is JUST rumor. I don’t want Santana that bad that I would give up Reyes. I would rather beef up the offer for Bedard; obviously short of Reyes, Wright or Beltran.

      • ridethesnake says:

        It’s beyond a rumor, it makes no sense. Why would the Mets get the Twins involved at all in this? The A’s give Haren for two Mets — why would the Mets turn around and send a player with Haren to get Santana? Wouldn’t we be better off just sending Mulvey and Reyes for Haren?

        A nice try but it has a flaw from that perspective, unless Omar wants Santana that much more than Haren.

        • pifman says:

          Um… why exactly would we trade Reyes for Haren instead of Santana?

        • ridethesnake says:

          Haren is 16 mil for 3 years and Santana is $125 for 7 years. Personally I would rather Haren, and you obviously don’t know who Hector Pellot. is! Hector Pellot!!!

        • pifman says:

          The Mets have the money. So why would you trade Reyes for a lesser talent? You wouldn’t.

    • beej0327 says:

      there is no way i do this trade. i dont trade reyes period. this doesnt just include reyes, it also has our best pitching prospect. reyes is too dinamic to give up for anyone. frankly id be fine if we had to resort to an aj burnett or ian snell. i say trade pelfrey, smith, church, heilman, gomez for bedard and sign aaron rowand to a 5 yr deal. rowand is the exact type of guy tht this team needs. a hard nosed emotional player who plays a great outfield. then sign colon to a deal that is based around incentives. i like colon a lot better than livan personally i think he has much more low risk high reward upside. and i would be fine having bedard, pedro , maine, perez, and colon as my 5 and reyes, castillo, wright, beltran, alou, delgado, rowand, schneider. i think that team can compete with any other.

    • Head First says:

      Mets in a three way? Sure it sounds sexy, but don’t get tricked. You don’t want it to end up being two dudes. Maybe we could get the Coppola sisters from DoMeWright.com?

  2. franco45 says:

    So the Twins would trade Johan Santana straight up for Dan Haren? I’m not sure I understand that move.

    • mikey_FF says:

      Dan Haren is under control for a few years and a cheap contract.

      • franco45 says:

        Understood, but I just fail to see how that is better than the Red Sox, Yankees, or Angels reported offers.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Yeah well 1) Its probably not true even if it makes some sense and 2) I personally don’t think the Mets have the balls to do this

        • TilMetsDoUsPart says:

          I don’t care if they have balls.

          If they can get Bedard without trading Reyes, which they definitely can, it’s worth it.

          Bedard and Reyes or Santana and Eck?

          I take Bedard and Reyes just about any time.

  3. Doofy says:

    MLBTradeRumors.com is wrong about 99% of the time. They got the Nady for Cameron trade right and since then everyone thinks they are legit.

  4. reyes789 says:

    Can’t trade Reyes. Just can’t. We NEED a frontline pitcher but Reyes is way too unique of a player.

    • mikey_FF says:

      Ace’s don’t grow on trees though. You have to think about this. It makes the team better.

      • Roach2 says:

        An Ace…sure

        But this particular trade doesn’t benefit the team really.

        Who’s our leadoff? Who is our SS?

        Those don’t grow on trees either.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Before I respond, I’d like to say that I don’t think this will happen because the Mets don’t have the balls to trade Reyes …AND … I love Reyes so I don’t want him to go.

          Now … Crosby would be the SS. Someone would lead off … I don’t know who … but having Santana outweighs having a leadoff hitter.

          So … I’m just saying … you have to think about it, even if its probably bull.

        • pifman says:

          Besides the fact that you really can’t just say you don’t know who would lead off and think it’s still a good argument. I would like to point out that no baseball player has ever grown on a tree before.

        • mikey_FF says:

          Hahaha … very true. If they did grow on trees I guess the Mets would have invested in some seeds in the picnic area … and started growing them.

          But yeah … I say I don’t know because it could be a lot of different possibilities. None of which are close to the leadoff guy Reyes is … but it could be a number of guys.

        • Roach2 says:

          My bad–didn’t read this that clearly (re: Crosby)

          Still, at a closer glance, Crosby looks to be regressing and would hurt us more than help

        • pifman says:

          Yeah I remember seeing Crosby play once… at a TOLEDO MUD HENS GAME. I’m serious by the way.

      • ravi3 says:

        Considering how much the offense sputters when Reyes is not at the top of his game, let alone when he isn’t even on the team, do you really think that one pitcher whose impact is felt once every five days would more than offset the loss of Jose?

        • mikey_FF says:

          I think pitching is more important in the grand scheme of things. Obviously this is an isolated situation.

      • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

        and guys like reyes do grow on trees? give me a break, no thank you. in fact id even argue that a guy like reyes is actually more rare than an ace. i can name 5 pitchers that would have the same impact or production as santana (peavy, sabathia, beckett, webb, penny) . but shy of hanley ramirez or jimmy rollins what other SS is there that even comes close to reyes.

        • mikey_FF says:

          All I’m saying is you have to think about it. I know its a mortal sin to Mets fans to think about trading this guy … I didn’t say I wanted him gone.

          Excuse me while I get my bulletproof vest.

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      You also keep Gomez to (eventually) hit leadoff. Ugh, I’m beginning to think this is plausible . . . and I DON’T like it.

    • Kevin Elster says:

      How do the Mets then market themselves? For the most part Reyes is the identity of the team, even more so then Wright.

      Reyes and Wright have to be untouchable. I would rather lose with both of them then win with hired guns and I am sure most fans feel the same way.

  5. bigchart333 says:

    exactly…crosby blows, johnson is OK….and i just can’t imagine my mets without reyes dancin around, electrifying the crowd and clubhouse….

    try to convince teams to take all our prospects, not reyes

  6. Steve In Tampa says:

    If true, I like it…..Getting a decent (When Healthy) SS like Crosby is the only way I even consider trading Reyes

  7. Slimting says:

    No way this is true. No effin’ way!

  8. boredatwork says:

    im not going to be a mets fan if they trade reyes

  9. stickguy says:

    Hohnson is a younger Delgado with a few less K but also less HR and slugging

    A 1B with an OPS o.760 and a BA of .235? ALready have one of those.

  10. mexmets says:

    Thats just nuts, at the end of the day, is basically Reyes-for-Santana swap suggar coded.

    I just hope Omar doesnt back out from his, I’m not trading Reyes statement.

  11. pifman says:

    The entire point of a 3-way trade would be so we can keep Reyes. If we were trading Reyes there would be no point in involving the A’s.

  12. toomanyuniforms says:

    This is what I was worried about. Does Omar have the self-control to come out of these meetings with nothing, or will the A’s manage to take advantage of his desperation and spin Haren for Reyes? Come on, Omar — if this is true, just walk away. . . .

  13. therealsandman says:

    all who say this deal is stupid is crazy. did you ever think the mets were gonna get santana? we are better off with santana as our #1 and crosby/eckstein at SS then we are with colon/livan or whoever with reyes as our SS

    • gipper913 says:

      Exactly right.

    • pifman says:

      Reyes is the catalyst. No Reyes, no flame. No flame, winning. No winning, no playoffs. No playoffs, well you get the idea. I watched just about every single Mets game last season and they showed stats about how the Mets play when Reyes gets on base compared to when he doesn’t. Now imagine if he wasn’t even on the team. The potent offense that was thought to rival an AL lineup becomes total crap and then we have a pretty good rotation. Great, so we become the Padres in a more hitter friendly park. And without the bullpen they have.

  14. squad says:

    No this doesn’t make sense at all.

    Why wouldn’t the Twins just ask for Reyes straight up?

    They don’t have junk like Johnson/Crosby to throw at us?

    If this trade happens… wow.

  15. SurferD says:

    johnson isnt bad….i actually like him

    but i dont like this trade at all

    crosby is wayyy to injury prone and we have no need for another 1b

    unless we can swing a package of crosby, delgado and a few others to the orioles for bedard and tejada i dont like this deal at all

  16. Stems says:

    there is no way this is true…

  17. k-mets says:

    There are statements that didnot make sense in mlbtraderumors.com.

    Such as ” Minnesota has initiated talks for a three-way blockbuster with the Twins and A’s. ”

    What is the world would start three way talks with themselves and A’s. Rather that is grammer mistake or it is totally false.

    Second this statement doesn’t make sense:

    “Mets send Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot to A’s
    A’s send Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson to Mets
    A’s send Dan Haren to Twins
    Twins send Johan Santana to Mets

    Mets get Johan Santana, Bobby Crosby and Dan Johnson
    A’s get Jose Reyes and Kevin Mulvey
    Twins get Dan Haren and Hector Pellot”

    As a result, I don’t believe one thing about it. I will believe it when it is completed.

    Your thoughts?

  18. roman411 says:

    I just heard from Papa Smurf that Cy Young just came back from the dead and is going to sign with the Colt 45’s.

    In other news…

    Robert Clemente has filed for free-agency.

  19. jgreet says:

    I’m fine with this. ANYTHING – ANYONE except David Wright to get Santana! ANYONE!!!!

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      This is the panic I’m talking about. It’s really a form of hysteria — can’t come away empty-handed, NO MATTER WHAT!!!!!

      Do NOT rob Peter to pay Paul. Reyes has a chance to be a unique, hall-fo-fame talent. WALK. AWAY.

  20. Ed Z says:

    Would the Red Sox have won the WS with Hanley Ramriez at SS and no Josh Beckett?

    • franco45 says:

      They might have won in 2006 with Ramirez instead of Beckett.

      • Ed Z says:

        Possibly, but it is almost certain they wouldn’t have won this year without him.

        • JR. says:

          great post…i think that hanley/beckett trade is one of the best trades in recent years where both teams got better in their own right…..santana is the only person in baseball that i would trade reyes for. the rest of the trade doesn’t excite me to much but if it wuzn’t bs id do it

        • ravi3 says:

          Hanley Ramirez was not a cornerstone of the Red Sox offense, so therefore the comparison is irrelevant.

        • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

          anyone who thinks that is the same thing is a total MORON. Hanley Ramirez wasnt an established centerpiece of their offense when they traded him, he was the jacoby ellsbury of 2007. simply a highly touted prospect not a 2 time all star with a silver slugger sitting on his mantle.

        • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

          *the jacoby ellsbury of 05

        • gipper913 says:

          Reyes was an anchor, draggong down the offsense over final month of season. He;s strawberry/doc all over again. Lots of talent being “blown”.

        • pifman says:

          So if he was an anchor dragging them down in the end, then he was a hot air balloon in the beginning.

    • gottabelieve07 says:

      Completely invalid comparison. Hanley Ramirez was a prospect at the time – not the offensive juggernaut he is now. He was not the cornerstone piece of the Red Sox franchise that Reyes is for the Mets.

      Trust me, if the Red Sox still had Han-Ram today, and they were offered Josh Beckett for him, they’d laugh.

      • JR. says:

        I see your point, yet Josh Beckett…especially at the time of the trade is no Johan Santana however

  21. spacemonkx says:

    Just say no to trading Reyes!

  22. therealsandman says:

    mets with santana is deadly with or w/o reyes

  23. blow me says:

    no way billy beane would do this…actually i dont think any of the teams involved would do this.

    • jdon says:

      why a 3 way? if they really are willing to trade reyes, then why not a straight up trade. seeing that the twins are picking up 5 years in age, this is a fair trade.

  24. firemetmanagement says:

    Crosby stinks

  25. pull Reyes.
    Put in Church / Gomez and Fmart

    • pifman says:

      Isn’t that exactly what the Mets have been attempting to do and been getting turned down every time so far?

  26. jberkon says:

    If Omar makes this trade, he should be fired immediately.

  27. tres says:

    Would you guys trade Wright for Santana?? NO, right? So why are you more comfortable parting with Reyes? Reyes is just as valuable to this team as Wright. So what he had a bad second half. Wright had a bad second half in ‘06 and I don’t remember anyone wanting to trade him.

    • recoton1 says:

      Good Riddance to Reyes. He was a major factor for the collapse last year. If he went into a slump… I can forgive that. But slumps do not usually consist of not running out ground balls, failing to cover 2nd base on routine plays, a lack of focus in the field, getting caught stealing at an 75% clip, stealing bases at inopportune times, getting into on the field scrums with the Marlins while your team is battling for their very lives, and orchestrating handshake dances with lastings milledge when you are up 8-0 against said Marlins. I didn’t even mention his abysmal batting average or inability to not uppercut swing at every pitch. SELL HIGH. SELL HIGH. We saw the real reyes after the all star break this season. We should move him if we can get Santana. period.

      • toomanyuniforms says:

        This is NOT selling Reyes high, believe me. Selling Reyes high is getting Santana and then some. Really.

        • recoton1 says:

          We can find another speedy guy (gomez) to steal bases and “electrify” the crowd. Maybe he’ll actually value winning more than displays of hubris and reflect on the fact that no one is irreplacable. You think Reyes thought about the fact that he was untouchable when he was acting the fool in Septemeber? I think that moving him improves the organization. Eckstein at SS would be just as pesky and we’d have Santana/Pedro/Maine/Perez/5th.. unbeatable. If true, I hope this happens.

        • Hit The Weights Zeile says:

          you should never be allowed to watch a mets game or any baseball game for the rest of your life.

          “Eckstein at SS would be just as pesky”

          you make me sick, and you embarass anyone that comes to this site.

          having unbeatable pitching with no offense really worked out well for the padres and dodgers didnt it.

        • toomanyuniforms says:

          All of a sudden Reyes is an overhyped blow addict with an attitude problem? Sounds like people caught ip in the Santana hype are looking for a way to justify anything that might get him. Wright — erratic arm, mediocre power, too streaky, slow bat. Dump him. Can we not treat every rumor about someone’s “off the field” antics as if it’s a peer-reviewed physics article? Give the guy the benefit of the doubt before he’s late-movie Tony Montana. . . . Jeez.

        • recoton1 says:

          Or we can wait until his value plummets and we can trade him for another Schneider and Church. I am sure that we can find another .280 batter with + speed and a .354 OBP

      • longtime fan says:

        This is just that same mock website article that is being spun as a rumor. It’s like playing telephone. The names change slightly as it goes down the line. The sportswriter (if there is one) hears it, somehow it gets to MLBtraderumors.com, and then some kid’s joke winds up being discussed on message boards as though it’s a legitimate trade proposal. Nonsense.

      • pifman says:

        Slumps very normally do consist of lacking play in other fields besides just hitting. Many players suffer defensively because of their aggravation while they’re at the plate. Causing the players to sometimes take more chances where there normally wouldn’t because they probably won’t succeed [stolen bases]. Also causing decreased focus in the field and at the plate prolonging and worsening said slump.

    • toomanyuniforms says:

      Plus, if they make this deal, the message to Mets’ fans is that no one is safe — including Wright. Reyes and Wright are the twin faces of the Mets right now. Trading one of them is more than simply shifting talent around. Fans expect a lot of player movement, but they do NOT like having core players shipped somewhere. Sure, the Marlins have won a couple championships, but how’s that attendance?

  28. ChiliGTC says:

    5 months ago, Jose Reyes was the second coming of Roy Hobs. He was touted as an MVP candidate. The player goes into the first protracted slump of his career and he can’t get out of NY quick enough…..if Omar trades Reyes, even for Santana, I’m done…..THERE IS NO WAY REPEAT NO WAY TO REPLACE REYES….he moves and it changes the whole complextion of your team and not for the better!

  29. nytim says:

    Man, it’s like we swapped Mets fans for Charlie Manuel on the comments page. (DO SOMETHING!! ANYTHING!! BUT NOT THAT!! NO!!!! WE’RE DOOMED!!) They have only lost Glavine. No free agent pitcher of any worth has signed yet. Santana, Bedard, Haren, and Blanton are still available. I don’t believe this rumor for a second. I don’t think the organization would giVe up Reyes. I don’t believe Oakland would trade their best pitcher unless they were hauling in 3-4 players, including pitcher(s) who could directly impact their roster this year or next. That said, I think it’s a good thing that Minnesota might listen. And maybe Gomez, Mulvey, Heilman and a lower level prospect could get it done.

  30. boredatwork says:

    NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. bigchart333 says:

    Crosby BLOWS. Guy can’t hit more than .240.

    Dan Johnson BLOWS, guy can’t hit more than .255

    And I’m sorry, but Reyes is more valuable than Johan. People forget you need the REGULAR season to GET TO the Post season…for 162 games, I’d rather have reyes helping us win than Johan.
    We’d be better off talkin to the twins about Nathan, or the A’s about Blanton and Street, and then signing Garcia and Livan or Colon and Livan. DEPTH helps during the grind of the long season…

    • k-mets says:

      Blanton might be too much since we are dealing with Beane. That said, I agree.

      Moreover, we should just try getting Garcia/Colon/Livan.

    • GravediggerHebner says:

      Johan Santana has a career BA of .258 does he blow?

  32. boredatwork says:

    EVERY MET FAN WILL GO INTO A DEEP DEPRESSION – I REALLY HOPE THIS IS NOT TRUE -

    • boredatwork says:

      REYES IS MORE VALUABLE THAN JOHAN

      • recoton1 says:

        Incorrect. Reyes on this team did not make the postseason last year. How valuable is he really? If we have anyone (even Livan) pitching in the 5 spot, we make the postseason.

        • recoton1 says:

          the embarrassment is seeing the sheeple on here talking like we are a winning franchise that cannot part with our good players to get the best pitcher in baseball. I saw enough from Reyes last year to lose complete faith in him. I am sure that he has a chip on his shoulder for not getting “Wright” money.. the partying I am sure is true, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he is on blow. Steals do not win the WS, ace pitching wins the WS..

  33. TilMetsDoUsPart says:

    Rumors rumors rumors.
    This is quite obviously a mistake.

    Matt, you shouldn’t have posted this.

    My UPDATED off season predictions:

    Fernando Martinez/Carlos Gomez, Aaron Heilman, Mike Pelfrey and Philip Humber to O’s for Erik Bedard

    Tim Lincecum to the Blue Jays for Troy Glaus, Alex Rios and Gustavo Chacin/Jose Towers

    Miguel Tejada to the Blue Jays for and Dustin McGowan and Casey Janssen. Possibly straight up for Travis Snider

    Brian Roberts to Pirates to Jason Bay

    Dan Haren to the D’Backs for Conor Jackson, Carlos Gonzalez and Orlando Hudson

    Ramon Hernandez and Chad Bradford to the Cubs for Mark Prior and Matt Murton.

    Xavier Nady and Jose Castillo to the Cubs for Sean Marshall and Ronnie Cedeno.

  34. Grubster says:

    The only way I see this going through is if Omar can convince A-Rod to reneg on the Yankee contract and sign him also. Then turn around and flip a package to the O’s for Hernandez and Bedard. Then I would say yas.

  35. k-mets says:

    It is official. Wfan said that Mets are talking to the Twins that “DOES NOT INCLUDE REYES.” and yes, Twins are listening to the Mets!!

  36. Les Gomez says:

    PASS!!!!!!!!!!!! REYES CANNOT BE DEALT

  37. metsforlife333 says:

    if reyes is traded, i will no longer be a mets fan.

  38. edwindrewes says:

    If people weren’t so scared of having the best player alive on their team (Arod), we could have had him at SS AND santana…..But people love his cute smile and high fives….The guy is TERRIBLE with 2 out and men on……He has zero discipline…..His stolen bases are nice, but as he gets bigger and older, that aspect of his game with be gone…..I love the guy too, but I love Piazza and I dont think he is someone who helps me win the WS at this point either.

  39. metsno1fan says:

    Ok anybody that wants to trade Reyes should look at the Mets record when Jose gets on base:
    Record without Reyes on base-7-16 (.304)
    Record with Reyes on base at least once-82-54 (.603)
    Record with Reyes on base twice or more-57-29 (.663)
    Record with Reyes on base three times or more-24-13 (.649)
    Record with Reyes getting a stolen base-41-22 (.651)

    I’d rather trade Wright before Reyes, I’d never do either, but there are other players closer to Wright, there is nobody like Jose Reyes. Nobody can change the course of a game like he can. Does anybody truly believe that Reyes has hit his prime at 24 and is now on the decline????

    Trading Reyes would decimate the lineup. Sure the rotation would be amazing, but there would be a gigantic hole in the top of the lineup.

    • recoton1 says:

      whoa whoa WHOA.. WAIT A SECOND.. so you are telling me that when a team has their leadoff hitter get on base 3 x in one game, they have a winning record. Sweet Jesus. This jose reyes just may be a good player afterall. I take it all back.

      Will Reyes will not get faster with age? NO
      Will Reyes steal 85 bases next year? MAYBE
      Will Reyes be on Dancing with the Reaggeton Stars? ABSOLUTELY

      If you can get the best pitcher in the game, you make this move. Not for Bedard, not for Haren.. for SANTANA. Ship this guy off to the AL west and let’s be done with it already. Look at this pitching market.. seriously.. take a peek. Its going to get harder to get Ace talent, not easier and not cheaper. You have to give up something to get something. Reyes on this team with Colon/Livan/ElDuque in the 3/4/5 spot = 3rd place and no playoffs. PERIOD.

      However,

      Santana/Pedro/Maine/OP/5th starter = postseason with Eckstein or Crosby and probably an NL pennant.

      Reyes doesn’t care about you. He cares about cashing his paycheck. This is the best move for the team. Get over it.

      • TilMetsDoUsPart says:

        How good is Santana over Bedard, really?

        Bedard had 2 less wins on a much worse team.

        Bedard has a 100% unhittable pitch.

  40. Pedro says:

    Why would we want two stiffs like Johnson and Crosby, they both stink. If we give away Reyes, we better get back something of value in addition to Santana, like Street.

  41. metfan24 says:

    the mets just would not be the mets without reyes, he energizes everyone, not to mention watching a game with reyes is just fun to watch whether the mets win or not (i prefer winning though:).
    I personally would love to see the mets pull of the trade of scott kazmir and rocco baldelli for mike pelfrey, joe smith, and two miner leagers, i however would love to see that trade happen but let the rays add al reyes to help our bullpen misery and the mets add philip humber and another minor leager. also if anyone has any rumors of johnny estrada please tell me with a comment

    • Kalihan42 says:

      My guess is we non tender him, unless the Nats take him from us for soem spare parts.

    • metsforever says:

      Nice idea, but the Rays are bad, not stupid. The Mets have nobody to get Kazmir. He may be worth close to Santana and Haren because he is cheap and under control for 4 years.

  42. metsforever says:

    Why would the Twins do this deal? They have better offers from Boston and the Yankees and already said NO. They need cheap youth and want a lot of it. I love Reyes, but I would have to consider him for Santana straight up. That said, I don’t think Minnesota is moving him unless they get exactly what they want and that is a very high end pitcher and very high end position guy ++ some B+ prospects. The Mets are going to have to go to plan D and get a Colon or Livan type and hope Pelfrey and Humber aren’t as bad as the rest of the league thinks.

  43. Observer says:

    Dan Johnson is certainly consistent:

    hit .237 (62 for 262) against righthanded pitchers and .234 (36 for 154) against left-handers…now has a .249 (194 for 778) career average against right-handers and .247 (74 for 299) against lefties…his average dropped to .200 with runners in scoring position, which ranked seventh lowest in the American League…has a .219 (64 for 292) career average with RISP…was 1 for 14 (.071) with the bases loaded, which was the lowest mark in the AL…is a .188 (6 for 32) career hitter with the bases full, but three of the six hits are grand slams.

    As for Bobby Crosby:

    Played fewer than 100 games for the third consecutive season as a broken left hand ended his season in late July…it was his fifth career stint on the disabled list and all have come in the last three years…missed the A’s final 62 games and has now missed 194 games due to injuries over the last three years…batted .226 with eight home runs and 31 RBI in 93 games…the average, home runs and RBI were all career lows…now has a .228 batting average, 17 home runs and 71 RBI in 189 games over the last two years…walked just 23 times in 2007 for a .278 on-base percentage…that was the lowest on-base percentage by an Athletic with 350 or more plate appearances since 1993 when Craig Paquette had a .245 on-base percentage…using the same minimum, he had the fourth lowest on-base percentage in the American League and the sixth lowest batting average and slugging percentage.

    All of the above is from the A’s website!

  44. stickguy says:

    This version is a non starter.

    But, if Omar really wanted to make a splash and redo the team, something like this but with real players back? A legit AAA SS, and a studly young catcher maybe? SOmething to fill holes.

    Or at least real prospects/young guys, not these stiffs.

  45. Capt_Draino says:

    from mlbtraderumors.com:

    Santana/Reyes/Haren Blockbuster Quashed
    UPDATE, 12-5-07 at 5:45pm: Billy Beane, who rarely comments on trade rumors, actually went out of his way to call mine below a “total fabrication.” I guess I should be proud, right? It sounds like I was the victim of an elaborate hoax/impersonated sportswriter. If so I apologize – not sure why someone would go to such lengths, but lesson learned.

  46. vinluvr says:

    All the people who hate Delgado probably love the Dan Johnson part of this stupid trade idea.

  47. GravediggerHebner says:

    Clearly you took the joke seriously, which is merely unfortunate. Then you resorted to name calling. Well played. Superb comeback.