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At MLB Trade Rumors, citing ‘a trusted New York sportswriter,’ the always-informative Tim Dierkes writes that the Mets, A’s and Twins are discussing a three-way trade that could send Johan Santana, Dan Johnson and Bobby Crosby to the Mets, who would part with Jose Reyes, Kevin Mulvey, and Hector Pellot, who would all end up in Oakland, who would send Dan Haren to the Twins.
…well, it’s officially that time of the week, i guess…
…my first problem with this is, why on earth would an anonymous new york sports writer leak this to a blog, when he could just break the story himself…that said, my guess is that the guy was simply thinking out loud, and playing mock-gm himself…nevertheless, wow…i mean, really wow…to be honest, i’m not even sure this deal would get approved in my fantasy league, let alone actually come to fruition in MLB…
Not down on this deal. Don’t want to give up Reyes for Santana. I thought Minaya said we were against that. Why would we do this now?
The Twins would need more than just Dan Haren in return for Johan Santana. I’d be shocked if the trade went down as stated.
That said, I love Jose Reyese way too much. I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
right –and when they tried to trade haren as he approached free agency they would be in a weaker position than they are now. more bodies, please.
WFAN just reported this is not true…that they are in talks, but refuse to move reyes or wright…nothing has changed, except that the twins are listening to what is out there.
I went as far as checking stats/splits for Crosby (lifetime .240 hitter, hasn’t plays in a 100 games since ‘04 or ‘03) and Dan Johnson (nice .355obp with .270ish avg, but not exactly it, and where exactly would he fit on this team?)
Within 5 seconds of seeing stats, I came to a decision:
NO DICE
JOSE, JOSE, JOSE, JOSEEEE!!!!
JOSEEEEEEEEE, JOOOOOOOOO-SE!!!!
DO NOT TRADE NUMBER SEVEN!!!!!
…I really hope this is a joke…
…I still can’t understand how you value such a dynamic player like Reyes to a guy that only plays 25 games a year…i just don’t get it…
More like 32 games a year, but still you’re right.
it is the bottom line–reyes is fun to watch but he does not take this team to a WS. Santana can do that, more than once. Reyes is fun to watch. Enormous talent. But not necessary to get to the big show.
thank you, i agree
Amen, brother.
Hopefully this is JUST rumor. I don’t want Santana that bad that I would give up Reyes. I would rather beef up the offer for Bedard; obviously short of Reyes, Wright or Beltran.
It’s beyond a rumor, it makes no sense. Why would the Mets get the Twins involved at all in this? The A’s give Haren for two Mets — why would the Mets turn around and send a player with Haren to get Santana? Wouldn’t we be better off just sending Mulvey and Reyes for Haren?
A nice try but it has a flaw from that perspective, unless Omar wants Santana that much more than Haren.
Um… why exactly would we trade Reyes for Haren instead of Santana?
Haren is 16 mil for 3 years and Santana is $125 for 7 years. Personally I would rather Haren, and you obviously don’t know who Hector Pellot. is! Hector Pellot!!!
The Mets have the money. So why would you trade Reyes for a lesser talent? You wouldn’t.
there is no way i do this trade. i dont trade reyes period. this doesnt just include reyes, it also has our best pitching prospect. reyes is too dinamic to give up for anyone. frankly id be fine if we had to resort to an aj burnett or ian snell. i say trade pelfrey, smith, church, heilman, gomez for bedard and sign aaron rowand to a 5 yr deal. rowand is the exact type of guy tht this team needs. a hard nosed emotional player who plays a great outfield. then sign colon to a deal that is based around incentives. i like colon a lot better than livan personally i think he has much more low risk high reward upside. and i would be fine having bedard, pedro , maine, perez, and colon as my 5 and reyes, castillo, wright, beltran, alou, delgado, rowand, schneider. i think that team can compete with any other.
Mets in a three way? Sure it sounds sexy, but don’t get tricked. You don’t want it to end up being two dudes. Maybe we could get the Coppola sisters from DoMeWright.com?
So the Twins would trade Johan Santana straight up for Dan Haren? I’m not sure I understand that move.
Dan Haren is under control for a few years and a cheap contract.
Understood, but I just fail to see how that is better than the Red Sox, Yankees, or Angels reported offers.
Yeah well 1) Its probably not true even if it makes some sense and 2) I personally don’t think the Mets have the balls to do this
I don’t care if they have balls.
If they can get Bedard without trading Reyes, which they definitely can, it’s worth it.
Bedard and Reyes or Santana and Eck?
I take Bedard and Reyes just about any time.
MLBTradeRumors.com is wrong about 99% of the time. They got the Nady for Cameron trade right and since then everyone thinks they are legit.
Can’t trade Reyes. Just can’t. We NEED a frontline pitcher but Reyes is way too unique of a player.
Ace’s don’t grow on trees though. You have to think about this. It makes the team better.
An Ace…sure
But this particular trade doesn’t benefit the team really.
Who’s our leadoff? Who is our SS?
Those don’t grow on trees either.
Before I respond, I’d like to say that I don’t think this will happen because the Mets don’t have the balls to trade Reyes …AND … I love Reyes so I don’t want him to go.
Now … Crosby would be the SS. Someone would lead off … I don’t know who … but having Santana outweighs having a leadoff hitter.
So … I’m just saying … you have to think about it, even if its probably bull.
Besides the fact that you really can’t just say you don’t know who would lead off and think it’s still a good argument. I would like to point out that no baseball player has ever grown on a tree before.
Hahaha … very true. If they did grow on trees I guess the Mets would have invested in some seeds in the picnic area … and started growing them.
But yeah … I say I don’t know because it could be a lot of different possibilities. None of which are close to the leadoff guy Reyes is … but it could be a number of guys.
My bad–didn’t read this that clearly (re: Crosby)
Still, at a closer glance, Crosby looks to be regressing and would hurt us more than help
Yeah I remember seeing Crosby play once… at a TOLEDO MUD HENS GAME. I’m serious by the way.
Considering how much the offense sputters when Reyes is not at the top of his game, let alone when he isn’t even on the team, do you really think that one pitcher whose impact is felt once every five days would more than offset the loss of Jose?
I think pitching is more important in the grand scheme of things. Obviously this is an isolated situation.
and guys like reyes do grow on trees? give me a break, no thank you. in fact id even argue that a guy like reyes is actually more rare than an ace. i can name 5 pitchers that would have the same impact or production as santana (peavy, sabathia, beckett, webb, penny) . but shy of hanley ramirez or jimmy rollins what other SS is there that even comes close to reyes.
All I’m saying is you have to think about it. I know its a mortal sin to Mets fans to think about trading this guy … I didn’t say I wanted him gone.
Excuse me while I get my bulletproof vest.
You also keep Gomez to (eventually) hit leadoff. Ugh, I’m beginning to think this is plausible . . . and I DON’T like it.
How do the Mets then market themselves? For the most part Reyes is the identity of the team, even more so then Wright.
Reyes and Wright have to be untouchable. I would rather lose with both of them then win with hired guns and I am sure most fans feel the same way.