Matthew Cerrone

Buzz: Mets offered Heilman for Fuentes
By Matthew Cerrone - Dec 6, 2007 3:10 pm

The Mets offered RHP Aaron Heilman to the Rockies on Wednesday in exchange for LHP Brian Fuentes, reports Ken Rosenthal at FoxSports.com.

However, the Rockies also asked for RHP Scott Schoeneweis, explains Rosenthal, at which point ‘talks disintegrated.’

In 208 relief appearances for the Rockies during the last three seasons, the 32–year-old Fuentes has a 3.68 ERA including 81 saves while averaging over one strike out per inning.

Interestingly, Fuentes had a 4.50 ERA while pitching away from Coors Field last year, yet a 1.72 ERA while in Coors Field.

Fuentes is eligible for arbitration this off-season, and can be a free agent after next year.

Meanwhile, Heilman will be arbitration-eligible for the first time this winter, and can be a free agent after 2010.

94 Responses to “Buzz: Mets offered Heilman for Fuentes”

  1. LIMetfan says:

    Glad it did not go through. Omar keeps going for age, keep the youth damnit! Still baffeled over Lastings trade.

  2. cver says:

    “Talks disingegrated”????? Why wouldn’t we be dying to dump Show for a bag of balls, let alone a guy who could be really good or at least decent? What am I missing here?

    • cver says:

      Oh I see, they’d have to give up both players. Well, maybe not. Tough to say. I’d have to look it over more, but certainly Show being thrown in should be a plus for the Mets not a minus.

    • natew says:

      Talent wise its not a fair 2 for 1, but if the Rockies wanted the Mets to pay some of Schoe’s salary too, then I would think the talks would stop right there.

      I cant really think of anyone that is reasonable to ask for from the Rockies as a 2 for 2 deal.

      Maybe in ST when Heilman isnt going to be a starter, and Dauner looks like a good bet to be a solid reliever, and Joe Smith or Carlos Muniz is looking good enough to make the team, then I might look to pull off that trade with the Rockies taking Schoe’s salary while sending a low level prospect back as well.

      Fuentes, Dauner, Wagner, would be a fun 7-8-9 combo to watch all year.

  3. JefJarrett says:

    What is with these teams asking for anything and everything, lol

    I mean, I’m sure plenty will argue about Heilman being more valuable than Fuentes….and whatever, you can debate away…..but to ask for another reliever too……wtf is with people!?

    • mdemaio says:

      It seems like other GMs realize Omar’s over a barrel, with the debacle of last year and the new stadium coming next year, so they’re asking for more than market value knowing that he can’t sit back and do nothing…

      I’m not sure why there seems to be a rush to trade Heilman, though…never understood why he’s undervalued by his own organization. He’s one of the better RH 7+ inning guys out there…and he’d probably be a comparably good a starter to half the guys out there getting 4/40. Could he be worse than Kyle Lohse, for god sakes?

      • Two-By-Four says:

        Because of intense media pressure and the resulting sensitivity to this pressure by the Mets Ownership it appears that the Mets have lost sight of the fact that even with the meltdown they came extremely close to being in the post season last season. They really need only moderate improvement at some spots and do not have to make a back page splash that leaves the franchise impotent in the future.

  4. sundaysection15 says:

    WHAT!!! if they want schoeneweis give him up! i would trade him for a bag of balls! come on.

  5. PereztoHeilmantoWagner says:

    Omar is inept….

    Not surprised though. Look at who we would be getting.

  6. mkochka says:

    Maybe they got the rumor backwards…they offered Schoeneweis but when the Rockies asked for Heilman the trade disintegrated…that makes more sense.

  7. gowrightgo says:

    I don’t really knnow Fuentes but what would be the point in trading relievers? Fuentes is better than Heilman? I can’t really see that. My guess is that the trade came from the Rockies and it was the METS who said FU. Then said maybe if you take Show also.

  8. kevin2elster21 says:

    Huh? Isn’t Fuentes an all star?

  9. VCarver says:

    Huh? I would keep Heilman but give Show away for a bag of balls. Then use the savings to sign Mahay.

    I don’t want to hear any Willie bashers next year whine about him bringing in Show.

  10. mr_met says:

    stop shopping aaron and put him back in the rotation already

  11. Les Gomez says:

    DO IT!! get the rockies to throw in a prospects and send those two bums out of here!

    • tonylett says:

      Sounds like another bogus report from an” Expert”.
      1) hes a lefty and are we gonna back-up our lefty closer
      w/ a lefty 8yh inn. guy? never seen that before.
      2)why woild you not send Scotty gopher-Ball anywhere/
      for anything the Min. someones asks?
      3) Would Daisy have been coming along as well?
      —Cause then your’e talkin’!!—

  12. supermannino says:

    I wouldn’t see the point in taking our best rightie out of the pen and trading him for another rightie and giving up a leftie. Also, why would you lose that potential flexibility of giving Heilman a shot in the rotation? I hope that the facts were messed up in this trade.

  13. firemetmanagement says:

    Trade would make no sense. Just trading one reliever for another. Plus I thought they wanted to try Heilman in the rotation, perhaps.

    Minaya is an id*t.

  14. smc says:

    This one is puzzling… I agree it must’ve been the Rox offering Fuentes.

    I would actually like to get our hands on Fuentes– he has nasty stuff…. Heilman? No way– he has value for a bigger deal, if you trade him at all. How about Ruben Gotay for Fuentes?

  15. metsman69 says:

    1. Why are we interested in this Fuentes guy anyway — pitches better at Coors than on the road?? What is that all about?

    2. Is there anyone in MLB that we have not offered Heilman for this offseason? Jeez, the guy gets frustrated for years as the mets mgt keeps him in the pen, and now he is being offered all over baseball for garbage. he must feel great right about now.

  16. kevin2elster21 says:

    schoeneweis is another steroid user whom we could have gotten rid of. what is omar thinking? since when was heilman such a hot commodity?

    fuentes has been all star the last 3 years and he wasn’t voted in by fans. among our pitching staff, we didn’t have a single all star

    what in the world is going on?

    • Roach2 says:

      Heilman may have this perceived futility by Mets fans because of sporadic ineffectiveness, but unless we get something in return, his absence would leave a HUGE hole.

      Let alone the fact that teams (other than the Mets) value him as a starter. He’s a very versatile asset

  17. Xavier22 says:

    This rumor, IF true, really shakes my increasingly weak faith in Omar. Why offer a one-for-one swap of relievers with Heilman, when Heilman can be used as part of a package to get a starting pitcher?

    Unless of course Omar was trying to package Fuentes for someone else. But that’s what I thought he was trying to do with the Milledge for Schneider/Church trade, and there’s no indication of that happening.

  18. firemetmanagement says:

    Mets killed Heilman’s value the past few year- same way Willie and Omar destroyed the value of Milledge, Gomez, Pelfrey, Humber (obviously the guy has no value when you sent out Brian Lawrence and Dave Williams to start instead of him).

    Fire met management.

  19. calamityfrancis says:

    Ummm……why?

  20. wilson1 says:

    Heilman was one of the bright spots of the bullpen last year. I can’t understand this at all–as others point out, Schoenweis has been disappointing to say the least.

  21. Number41 says:

    It is becoming clear that Omar is eliminating “attitudes”. Omar sees retaining Willie as a mandate to get rid of those who had the onions to speak up or second guess or show disappointment.
    This is becoming more like a staffing issue at the local ladies salon more than a MLB team!
    Dump Omar and his little friend, Willie the Mute.