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	<title>Comments on: Buzz: Santana seeing Boston, Mets Watching</title>
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		<title>By: Read: Santana Almost Traded to Texas &#124; MetsBlog.com</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-113743</link>
		<dc:creator>Read: Santana Almost Traded to Texas &#124; MetsBlog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] December 11 i wrote, “From what I can gather, the Rangers are the third team in this mix, not the Yankees, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 14th brooklyn</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-101249</link>
		<dc:creator>14th brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;14th brooklyn...&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>14th brooklyn&#8230;</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Cousinjoey</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-63033</link>
		<dc:creator>Cousinjoey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with that theory is that is Pelfrey, Humber, Mulvey were to get a signifcant amount of starts next year, we would run into the same problem we ran into last year.  Last year, the bullpen went south, because the starters weren&#039;t going deep into games and forcing us to go the bullpen early.  Usually, young pitchers don&#039;t log allot of innings, due to lack of strength, experience, etc.  That would mean, that the when these guys are starting, the likelyhood is that they will be out by the 5th or 6th inning.

That is why we targeted a young ace, who can pitch deeper into games.  Pelfrey, Humber and Mulvey aren&#039;t ready for that role yet.  Maybe never.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with that theory is that is Pelfrey, Humber, Mulvey were to get a signifcant amount of starts next year, we would run into the same problem we ran into last year.  Last year, the bullpen went south, because the starters weren&#8217;t going deep into games and forcing us to go the bullpen early.  Usually, young pitchers don&#8217;t log allot of innings, due to lack of strength, experience, etc.  That would mean, that the when these guys are starting, the likelyhood is that they will be out by the 5th or 6th inning.</p>
<p>That is why we targeted a young ace, who can pitch deeper into games.  Pelfrey, Humber and Mulvey aren&#8217;t ready for that role yet.  Maybe never.</p>
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		<title>By: rd</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-62615</link>
		<dc:creator>rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I give the mets brass kudos for not letting the twins hold them hostage.  Three pitching prospects with the option of Heilman instead of one of them plus either Gomez or Martinez is fair.  Twins want a fourth pitcher or both outfield prospects?  No....  Have to walk away from that, enough is enough.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give the mets brass kudos for not letting the twins hold them hostage.  Three pitching prospects with the option of Heilman instead of one of them plus either Gomez or Martinez is fair.  Twins want a fourth pitcher or both outfield prospects?  No&#8230;.  Have to walk away from that, enough is enough&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: MudvilleNine</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-62519</link>
		<dc:creator>MudvilleNine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who&#039;ll play short or third if God forbid one of them goes down? Or when they need a day off? Or do you expect them to play all 162 games? What if Castillo goes down for any length of time? Going to have Easley play there for more then a couple of games? What happened to defense up the middle? Stop with all the trade Gotay talk. It&#039;s not going to happen, he&#039;s needed for that role. There&#039;s noone in the organization ready to take on that role, and no one on the FA market that can do it. Dont say Anderson Hernandez either, he hasnt shown anything great defensively and he cant even hit his own weight, nevermind that he doesnt play those other positions. What happened when they were signing Castillo and everybody was saying why cause they thought Gotay could do the job defensively good enough and might hit better then Castillo? Gotay is going to be here, there is no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who&#8217;ll play short or third if God forbid one of them goes down? Or when they need a day off? Or do you expect them to play all 162 games? What if Castillo goes down for any length of time? Going to have Easley play there for more then a couple of games? What happened to defense up the middle? Stop with all the trade Gotay talk. It&#8217;s not going to happen, he&#8217;s needed for that role. There&#8217;s noone in the organization ready to take on that role, and no one on the FA market that can do it. Dont say Anderson Hernandez either, he hasnt shown anything great defensively and he cant even hit his own weight, nevermind that he doesnt play those other positions. What happened when they were signing Castillo and everybody was saying why cause they thought Gotay could do the job defensively good enough and might hit better then Castillo? Gotay is going to be here, there is no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: MudvilleNine</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-62508</link>
		<dc:creator>MudvilleNine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a guy who thinks he&#039;s so smart you really dont know much. For one year of Santana? Then a record breaking contract? Trade for Santana will be for 6 to 7 years, 5 if we can. You see, the whole deal, as everyone else seems to know but you, would all be contingent on signing him to an extension. You offer him what your willing to give. If he doesnt accept it, there is no trade. The trade is voided. Thats why there&#039;s a 72 hour trading window, to negotiate. Being that he has a no-trade clause if he didnt get what he wanted, he just refuses to be traded to that team. Then no one changes hands. Plain and simple. If you know what he wants, and your not willing to give it, you dont bother attempting to trade for him at all. Oh, and dont bother with the monkey thing I&#039;m sure you&#039;re going to call me because after reading most of your post, you have no credibility here, just someone with some anger issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a guy who thinks he&#8217;s so smart you really dont know much. For one year of Santana? Then a record breaking contract? Trade for Santana will be for 6 to 7 years, 5 if we can. You see, the whole deal, as everyone else seems to know but you, would all be contingent on signing him to an extension. You offer him what your willing to give. If he doesnt accept it, there is no trade. The trade is voided. Thats why there&#8217;s a 72 hour trading window, to negotiate. Being that he has a no-trade clause if he didnt get what he wanted, he just refuses to be traded to that team. Then no one changes hands. Plain and simple. If you know what he wants, and your not willing to give it, you dont bother attempting to trade for him at all. Oh, and dont bother with the monkey thing I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re going to call me because after reading most of your post, you have no credibility here, just someone with some anger issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Coolpapabell</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-62183</link>
		<dc:creator>Coolpapabell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NRmax88,
What is your fixation with Gomez? I think he is way more of a wildcard then F-Mart. F-Mart is a natural power hitter, thats a natural hitter. He can be a Pujols or a Miggy Cabrera. That&#039;s too good to let him go by. 

Gomez on the other hand, could be Carl Crawford or he could be Alex Ochoa, Jason Tyner, Roger Cedeno, or Dario Rosario. Last year we saw that he was over matched by major league pitching and that he does not have a good understanding of the strike zone. He can not work a count to his favor, while Lastings looked liked a better hitter last year and this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NRmax88,<br />
What is your fixation with Gomez? I think he is way more of a wildcard then F-Mart. F-Mart is a natural power hitter, thats a natural hitter. He can be a Pujols or a Miggy Cabrera. That&#8217;s too good to let him go by. </p>
<p>Gomez on the other hand, could be Carl Crawford or he could be Alex Ochoa, Jason Tyner, Roger Cedeno, or Dario Rosario. Last year we saw that he was over matched by major league pitching and that he does not have a good understanding of the strike zone. He can not work a count to his favor, while Lastings looked liked a better hitter last year and this.</p>
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		<title>By: stickguy</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/11/buzz-santana-seeing-boston-mets-watching/#comment-62178</link>
		<dc:creator>stickguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>big picture, if all these bad things happen, having Santana is going to be enough to get them to the playoffs anyway.

Plus, they would have traded all their possible AAA replacements for the guys that got hurt.

So basically, they can be a sub .5oo team with Santana in the rotation, just like the Twins!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>big picture, if all these bad things happen, having Santana is going to be enough to get them to the playoffs anyway.</p>
<p>Plus, they would have traded all their possible AAA replacements for the guys that got hurt.</p>
<p>So basically, they can be a sub .5oo team with Santana in the rotation, just like the Twins!</p>
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		<title>By: metsfansberealistic</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsfansberealistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omar is playing it cool

deep down he knows he has to do something

odds of getting half way through the season with Pedro &amp; El Duque healthy?

near zero

odds of either Pelfrey or Humber being effective

low

odds Delgado rebounding

low

our chances

slim

maybe I should become a Nats fan for a year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omar is playing it cool</p>
<p>deep down he knows he has to do something</p>
<p>odds of getting half way through the season with Pedro &amp; El Duque healthy?</p>
<p>near zero</p>
<p>odds of either Pelfrey or Humber being effective</p>
<p>low</p>
<p>odds Delgado rebounding</p>
<p>low</p>
<p>our chances</p>
<p>slim</p>
<p>maybe I should become a Nats fan for a year</p>
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		<title>By: metsfansberealistic</title>
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		<dc:creator>metsfansberealistic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment

you are a Mensch</description>
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<p>you are a Mensch</p>
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