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John Maine was supposed to join Oliver Perez on SNY’s Mets Hot Stove Report, but was unable to attend.
…from what i can gather, his plan was delayed out of 
Virginia…though, i’ll admit, my initial reaction when hearing he was a no-show was, ‘uh oh, i hope he wasn’t traded,’ which fortunately was not the case…phew…
Following Mets Hot Stove, Perez and Maine attended last night’s game between the Knicks and Mavericks at Madison Square Garden, where, according to SI.com, the two pitchers were booed after being introduced on the scoreboard.
…jeez, it’s been a rough couple of weeks for maine in new york…first this, then he’s booed…you know, johnny, that flight being delayed was probably a sign…
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I’m pretty sure Knick fans would boo Jesus right now though.
ummmm….right. this is a “mets town” huh? there are a whole heck of a lot more yankee hats around than mets hats (that’s counting all colors, variations, and permutaions) of mets hats too.
huh? i’m sure you’re including those cute pink yankee hats i see around, right?
That’s one of the best screen names I’ve ever seen.
I beat off to the audio religiously.
nah….
Jesus has a decent jumper
Jesus plays with heart too.
But Jesus is no God Shamgodd.
I don’t believe in God Shamgodd. I only believe in Scientific Mapp.
Nope…as a PC alum I can tell you he is no God Shamgodd
Haha
It’s been well established that people who go to Knicks games are mainly a-hole Yankees fans, so, no big deal.
By the way, it’s pretty cool seeing Maine and Perez become this young pitching duo that goes around and represents the team together.
Ridiculous comment, unless you mean that Knicks fans that are also Mets fans are too smart to bother attending the games.
Why is it cool that they represent the team together? Is it not equally cool when they represent the Mets independently?
I’ll never understand why fans have this Tiger Beat obsession with what players are best friends. Who cares? For what these guys are making, as well as the knowledge that anyone here today could be gone tomorrow, I am positive that it is not as important to them as it is to some fans.
How’s it going, Completelymissingthepoint Guy?
ok, that cracked me up. very well done
Even after you apparently clever jab I still don’t see the point.
Here’s to moving on…
I understand that there are a lot of things for us Mets fans to be critical about and to be annoyed over, but seriously, you’re gonna take the time to complain that people like to see Maine and Perez going around promoting the Mets? That’s what you have so much disdain for?
We’re all entitled to our opinions, but if this is really something that bothers you, then I think you may need a vacation. I’d suggest staying away from the Dominican though, you might find two or more Mets spending time together, and I know how much that upsets you.
Some of us aren’t completely pessimistic and like to see things from the Mets that we can get behind and root for.
And I missed the point?
I never said that I didn’t like to see the Mets wandering around together. I said I could care less what they were doing when they weren’t playing ball.
I had a feeling your clever comment was a once in a lifetime thing…
Okay, so, to recap, you could care less, and other people like to see it. Why do you have to rain down on their parade? Isn’t there enough negativity going around?
Whatever.
No she didn’t!
Probably not true, because I was at the Knicks/Suns game last week when LoDuca was there and he got cheers from the crowd and a positive reaction.
its 100% true. i was at the game they boo-ed beltran
I was saying that the point that all Knicks fans are Yankee fans, wasn’t true. I wasnt saying that this didnt happen
Whenever I feel pessimistic about the Mets, I look at the Knicks and I realize how lucky we are.
i think every fan of every other team in every other sport does the same thing to make themselves feel better.
yea, the Mets could be the Knicks, or the Jets, or the Islanders (you know, when Hockey was still a sport), or, hell, St. John’s basketball. They may not be the Yankees, but then, no team in professional sports history IS. The Mets are pretty much right up there with the Giants as the second most successful team in NYC. I’ll take it., for now.
isiah thomas is f’n things up for everybody
i was there and with a bunch of met fans and they booed. we saw through this really dumb PR move by omar to be like, hey look, we have aces on the team already! fact is i like both players and like them on our team but the end of last season merits boos wherever they are.
Yeah, I guess it was Maine’s fault when he almost threw a no-hitter on the 161st game of the season.
and won 15 games with an era under 4 is his first full season in the big leagues.
Maine and Ollie were the backbone of the starting rotation. They are a very strong core to build a starting rotation around.
I sure would like to see the same Oliver Perez in consecutive outings, though.
Hate to be picky here, but how about May 13, 18, 23, 29, and June 3 or July 15, 20, 26 of last year?
Wow. Did you take the time to look that up on my account, or did you have it out in front of you?
I did not mean to make a literal, sweeping judgement on Oliver Perez’s performance in 2007. Don’t get me wrong, I am thrilled to have him on the Mets.
I was generalizing. There were times when I hoped to see a great outing by Perez followed up by a similar strong outing and didn’t. I don’t have the dates of those outings. If I find time I will try to look them up, but I am at work and won’t make any promises.
7-Train
How about these:
June 15/June 20
July 20/July 26
Sept 10/Sept 16
Sept 22/Sept 28
I don’t have to time to research this as fully as I’d like to right now, but they are a few that jump out at me.
No time at all, Danny. It’s right here. And, yeah, I agree that he’s been inconsistent. But, in the aggregate, he was our best pitcher last season (and had a couple of multi-game runs) and it seems that he’s beginning to finally reap the rewards of undoing the terrible coaching he had in 2005 by the Pirates staff. I think he could put up an even better – and, dare I say, more consistent – year in 2008.
I don’t know that we’ll ever see true consistency from Ollie, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. As long as he can make it so that 75-85% of his starts, he “has it”, I’ll take the other 15-25%. He’s basically a modern version of Sid Fernandez, and we won a World Series with him in the rotation.
you do realize that the entire team lost that division, right? all of them were at fault. trying to make it seem like it was a bad month is all well and good, but the fact remains, they chocked and should feel terrible about it.
moron, get a life
It better have been Yankees fans, because John Maine is one of the best things the Mets have going for them — almost nothing would make me angrier than trading him, or even Perez, to get one of these top starters. Maine will have 20 wins this year pitching with an improved defense behind him and a more mature Reyes at the plate.
Agree about Maine. Even though he was a last-minute throw-in in the Julio-Benson deal, Omar deserves a lot of credit for getting him. I once advocated trading him, if necessary, to get a Santana deal done. But I’ve changed my mind.
I wish Maine was on SNY last night..Perez is a difficult young lad to interview ….it was almost comical …and the guy from the ledger just sat there for the last 15 minutes of the show..lol
Just use translators
I’m glad I’m not a knicks fan. They are a disgraceful bunch.
I remember a few years ago, maybe 5-6, I was on a forum and some fans were saying they hope Charles Dolan buys the Mets. That would have been disastrous. The current Knicks are the worst run sports franchise I’ve ever seen in my life.
Sweet Jesus…don’t even name Dolan and the Mets on the same page…
oh my god that would be the worst thing that could EVER happen. Although Keith Hernandez would probably be happy, because I doubt you’d ever see any women in the dugout, or anywhere else for that matter.
By the way, this is how we should counter all those “Freddy Coupons” people: we could have Dolan.
I happened to have been at the game and no doubt about it were they getting booed by Skankees fans. Funny but http://www.metsmole.com reported that Mainey wasn’t in attendance at SNY about 19 hours ago.
I’m soooooooooooooooooooo tired of this offseason. Every single poster is totally annoying (including myself) at this point. Nothing but complaining or making crazy trade proposals. I can’t stop myself from coming here and doing exactly what is driving me crazy, however, which is even more frustrating. The way last year went (and I’m talking the whole year, not just the collapse), I just can’t let go of the hope that we’re going to see an improvement. Does anyone know what the opposite of hope is? It’s dispair.
Insert random-John-Maine-in-a-dress joke here….
Sorry John… I’m pretty sure it wasn’t you, but still, this is going to follow you for a while…
Maine would have been there, but he didn’t have a thing to wear.
(Hey, but I kid around…)
i wonder if they just lied about his plane from VA being delayed so they can say “see we told you he was in VA, if he were cross dressing here in NY dont you think hed be here?”
He was probably back stage experiencing wardrobe malfunction.
Knicks fans got their own players/coach to boo, stop booing at ours!!!
BADA BUM
man, the collapse has spilled into the offseaosn. man its been tough for us met fans
Omar should have just fired Willie. Then, there would have been less pressure to make changes to the team as a whole. This offseason would also have been a lot more stomachable as well just knowing that the team was going to be led by a different personality.
There has been nothing significant done to make us feel better about the Mets after the collapse. I would imagine that unless the Mets get off to a great start most of the players/coaches are going to get booed.
Which is why firing Willie is looking more and more like it should have been done.
Who the hell cares? MSG is a slum and anyone who pays to go there is a piece of crap.
rangers are awesome!
yeah, i cant disagree with you more.
I was at the game and the funniest thing was when the boos started, Maine laughed it off while shaking his head.
i honestly thought it was really funny. they can change those boos into super loud cheers by winning.
I am many boos were from whiny bitch Mets fans who have no mental or emotional capacity to process last season, even 2 1/2 months after the fact. Honestly, this offseason I’ve been more embarassed to be a Mets fan than I can ever remember – even more so than in the mid-90s or early 00s.
This team is still the class of the NL – its sad that so much of this fan base wouldn’t know confidence or bravado if it fell on top of Mr. Met. We’re all predisposed to be embarassed and paranoid about our team, and its sad.
How many fans read Klapish’s horse— colum on ESPN today and actually agred with that drivel? I’m not trying to be some rosy optimist with no sense of reality, but to act like this team is on the verge of crisis is someplace between disingenuous and insane.
Maine and Perez won 30 games combined. Booing them is just moronic. Then again, maybe we can finally emulate 80s Yankees fans who were so off-center that they’d follow players home and call in death threats to where no one wanted to play there anymore. Then we can be proud.
people who say OLLIe was inconsistant start after start DID NOT WATCH HIM every game last year, and i have no further use to talk to .. … us fans who watched 155+ games saw how good of a season he had ..
They were only booing the boo-ers.
I’m sure Ollie didn’t understand, regardless.
the tunnel at yankee stadium ROFL
forget the yankee dynasty, the mets 99-2000, the rangers 94..
when the knicks were winning in the 90’s there wasnt a single hotter ticket in NYC, hands down
that’s partially because Madison Square Garden seats less than 20,000 people, and because basketball is an indoor winter sport that plays a schedule half as long as baseball. And I’d still contend that Giants tickets were as hard to come by as Knicks tickets, though that may be just because I never was able to get tickets to the Giants until my aunt married a season ticket holder (best decision anyone in my family ever made), but I was able to get Knicks tickets.
wake up, people. i was at the game when beltran was booed, and there were ppl in mets hats standing and jeering.
not all met fans are the obsessive types that chat on metsblog. there are a lot of every day new yorkers who follow the teams, go to games, and are infuriated when a team orchestrates the game’s most epic collapse.
at this point, i think david wright is the only guy who could show his face in public and not get booed.
paulie was cheered because at the time he’d already been shown the door, and fans were nearly universally pissed about it. if he was entering the final year of his contract rather than leaving it, he would’ve been booed just as lustily.
and im sorry, YOU MUST see citizens bank on philly … dont be a wuss, take the heat like us all
I despise Philly (scroll up and check out my other post about it), but Citizens Bank is a great ballpark. For that matter, so is Lincoln Financial Field (home of the Eagles), although I’ve only been there for Temple Football, so I didn’t have 60,000 drunk and rowdy Eagles fans to ruin my experience. The first time I went to CBP, I got really depressed about Shea, because the Vet was one of the few ballparks that was demonstrably worse than Shea, and now it was replaced by this gorgeous new place. I love Shea, but it’s definitely time for a new stadium.
hahaa, I always go to see the Mets at CBP because I live in that area – the Phillies fans are so obnxiously annoying, I can’t stand them. I even went there to see the Cubs and Marlins this season and ugh ~ can’t stand being around them!
I always try to be around a lot of Met fans, usually guys – if any of you ever go to a Mets game at CBP – let me know! lol
yea, I went there a bunch when I was in college outside Philly. Now I live in DC, and for the past 2 years have gone to a bunch of games at RFK. Talk about a dump. I’m pretty excited about the Nats new stadium this year though.
And this is why it takes paying a premium to get free agents to play for the Mets. Who the hell wants to be booed when you go out in public.
You could go to Boston or chicago and play baseball and be treated like royalty.
Though seriously, back to this topic: the Knicks fan would probably boo ANYTHING right now, who can blame them?
True true. I was at a Knicks game a couple of weeks ago and they were getting blown out in the first half (although they somehow came back to win) and along with the general booing of the team and “Fire Isiah” chants they even booed someone participating in a half-time contest. The only thing that got cheers up to that point were the Knicks City Dancers.
As for the local venues, as long as I’m not sitting in an obstructed view seat (like some at Fenway) I’m there for the game. Both Shea and Yankee Stadiums are out-dated, not exactly the comfortable seats or with state-of-the-art sightlines, but even though I could have techically had a better “view” of games 1 & 7 of the 2006 NLCS in my living room versus mezz section 31 no way would I have missed out on a stadium filled with 50,000 plus fans chanting LGM or Jose! Jose! Jose!
Since we’re in NY I know I’m getting robbed for concessions and there’s no perceivable difference in the quality of the food at either Shea or Yankees stadium…as in they’re both very mediocre. The biggest difference between the two, and I hate to admit it, but being able to pre-game before Yankee games on River Ave. is more convenient than trying to avoid a citation for an open container in the Shea parking lot. Even if the bars are cheesy, loud and worst of all filled with Yankees fans it would be nice to at least have a similar set up in the surrounding neighborhood for Shea. However, the 7 train after games is virtually empty and it’s a lot easier to get on whereas the 4 train is maybe jammed packed before it even gets to Yankee Stadium.
The thing that annoys me though about Yankee Stadium and Madison Square Garden (despite the fact that I am a big Rangers fan) is that they say they’re the world’s most famous stadiums/arena. I suppose that maybe except for Fenway or Wrigley Field, nowhere else in America can challenge that claim but I guarantee that outside of the US there are plenty more world famous venues such as Old Trafford/Wembley/Anfield/Roland Garos/Santiago Bernabeu/Camp Nou/etc. I would have to say that the fans at a Real Madrid-Barcelona match make Yankees-Red Sox or Mets-Braves games look tame in comparison. At least baseball players don’t get pelted with objects thrown from the stands…unless of course you’re John Rocker.
Please try to find it in your heart…..to lighten up. And I’m not trying to be confrontational. Honestly, I do not think either reference was meant to offend anyone, or be disrespectful. I’m Christian and I wasn’t offended. On the contrary….it was quite humorous. I’d like to think that JC would agree with me.
You’re offensive to Christians.
you still have the worst sport arena in america to cheer your crappy team
Have you ever taken in a sporting event in Philadelphia?
You could play your home games in the Vatican and it would still be a slum if everyone were peeing on the walls.
They knocked down the original Pennsylvania Station to build MSG. The single worst act of civic vandalism ever perpetrated on New York City. Say what you will about the Nassau Coliseum. At least they didn’t tear up the Mona Lisa of train stations to build it.
a) I love Madison Square Garden, and I’m not a Knicks OR Rangers fan (don’t root for a particular NBA team, and I’m an Isles fan) – the Garden is a million times better than the Coliseum, although the Coliseum is actually pretty awesome when the Isles are good, just because it gets so loud.
b) Philadelphia is by far the worst city in America, for about a million different reasons. The only good things to ever come from Philly is the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and Cheesesteaks. And their fans are the worst people in America. I went to college outside Philly, and a lot of my friends are from there….I can’t watch sports with them. I live in DC now, and the fans here are SO MUCH BETTER, at least in the fact that they are somewhat civil.
I am fairly certain that pochemunyet was kidding.
Am I accurate in this assumption, pochemunyet?
Yankee Stadium is far more a dsump than MSG – have you been there? It’s not a shrine – it’s a totally different place since the 74-75 renovation, a fact that people old enough to remember readily acknowledge.
History aside, Yankee Stadium has every bit as much reason to be demolished as Shea.
I get the whole history thing, but I have never hated seeing a baseball game in any stadium more than in Yankee stadium. And I don’t mean because I am a Met fan, either.
Every time I go there I fear for my life. Every person is literally sitting on top of one another, and getting up to get a beer is an adventure if you’re not on the end.
It’s time for that place to go, imo.
I’m offensive to Christians.
Just to say, I have been to both Fenway Park and Yankee Stadium. Both just this past season actually, and Yankee Stadium does not compete with Fenway in any facet of the game. The atmosphere alone at Fenway is unlike anything I have experienced at a baseball game, and I have been to a lot of stadiums.
Coors is one of the best.
I am also personally fond of Petco Park.
The Jake is cool, and I really like SkyDome, although they aren’t calling it that anymore. The only think about Toronto is that in each of the three visits I made there I felt as if the place was 3/4’s empty.
I have to say that I am partial to NYC, but my favorite city to visit after the game was over was Montreal. The stadium sucked, and they had to pipe in the crowd noise, but that city is just fantastic.
I hate this “Yankee Stadium has history” crap. That’s like saying that going to Jamestown and seeing the re-creation of the original settlement (which was built in the 1980’s) has history. Yankee Stadium was completely gutted in the 1970’s, and the stadium today would probably be unrecognizable to Lou Gehrig. Steinbrenner turned the most historic park in baseball into a glorified cookie-cutter stadium….but the worst part is that he somehow conned people into believing it was still the same place as where Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, and Mantle played. Go try to find some pictures of pre-renovation Yankee Stadium and post-renovation, they look almost completely different (the only thing that’s the same is the general shape.) The new Yankee Stadium is actually going to look a lot more like the original than the dump in the Bronx right now.