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The Mets have issued the following statement, regarding today’s release of the Mitchell Report…
“The Mets support Major League Baseball’s ongoing efforts to eliminate the use of illegal performance enhancing substances. We fully cooperated in the Mitchell investigation and commend the Senator for his efforts in issuing his report.”
…i suspect every team is making essentially the same statement…the thing is, after listening to Sen. George Mitchell, it’s fairly clear that every level of the game, short of scouts, frankly, are responsible for the mess they find themselves in today…even we, the fans and media, need to accept a certain amount of responsibility…fact is, this all happened, and all of us need to just forgive and move on, learn from the past, but never forget what transpired to insure that it never happens again…
and we would like to announce that we have acquired johan santana from the twins for out entire A, AA and AAA farm teams. Thank You
any one else do a fist pump, cartwheel back flip combo when Piazza wasn’t on the list? I was worried he’d be on there.
-johan for hanukkah
p.s. santana for christmas
“The New York Mets feel that as an organization we can take the lead regarding the use of steroids and HGH. Therefore we will double all league penalties imposed on players associated with the Mets. This will take effect in the 2008 season. The New York Mets would like to again thank the Senator for bringing to light the darkness that is illegal drug use.
There….seems to have been a paragraph missing from that statement……
You shoud read the Yankee statement…. “The New York Yankees are currently reviewing the report and have no comment at this time.”
HaHaHaHa….
If you are going to asterisk Bonds, why don’t you asterisk the 2000 World Series… nine New York Yankees from that W.S. Championship Season were on that report….
Including the Juicehead that raged out on our catcher…. TWICE!!!
I wonder if Piazza is sitting at home tonight thinking to himself,
“Did I really consider going out to the mound to confront that roided out freak?”
Clemens is completely denying the statements made about him in this report, and I’ve actually read a statement by his lawyer that uses the term “slander”.
Let’s face the music, Rocket. You’re done. Looks like your HOF career ain’t looking too HOF-ish anymore, huh?
hahahahahahaha
I have to say, albeit very sadly, that I agree with you.
I’d cant believe that all teacms are saying this statement as is mentioned above. Other wise we would not have seen trades for Tejada and FA signings of Gagne. These 2 were named, no?
As far as the MP user theories above…maybe too much of uncle Tommy’s special meatball sauce masked the hgh in mikey’s system.
re: Gagne he was definitely named. What’s really odd is that in the Gagne section the Mitchell report details Theo Epsteins knowledge of this in 11/06, then in 8/07 Epstein trades for him. Weird. My pdf file of the report won’t allow me to cut and paste it but it’s on page 219.
re: Mikey’s uncle’s sauce, soylent green is people!
The same thing happened with Brendan Donnely.
And the Dodger FO should be ashamed of themselves. Not only did they know that their guy was using, but they used this knowledge to raise his trade value, traded him while he was off the juice so that it wouldn’t show up in his physical, and documented that they knew he was going to start using again after the trade! It doesn’t get much worse than that!
I don’t think Piazza used, otherwise he would have charged the mound. Though he did look crazy charging Mota.
Whenever a muscle doesn’t tear but instead the tendon tears away from the bone there is cause for concern about why the muscle exceeds the strength of the tendon. Also the strength the muscle has to rip the tendon from the bone.
Piazza had that injury as well as Nomar.
Food for thought.
Don’t care. He wasn’t mentioned, and I hope he’s never mentioned. Ever.
So you guys are seriously making accusations about Piazza because he WASN’T named in the report?!?
There has been zero evidence of him taking steroids. The guy is a solidified first ballot HOFer. Maybe we should be ripping on the people who we have proof for.
javajoe, honest question, are you a doctor or med school student? bc if not, no offense your medical opinion means jack. im not fimiliar with nomars injury but what does him having the same one have anything to do with piazza using roids? nomar wasnt in the report at all, if youre going by that fake list that was circling the internet your opinion is even less legitimate.
the Yankees comment was the extremely bogus annoucement that A-Rod is officially re-signed
smoke screen
ladies & gentlemen, your 2000 World Series Champion New York Yankees
brought to you by BALCO
April ‘09 they’re moving into “the house that Balco built.”
Also, if Clemens is denying this so vehemently I’m sure there’s plenty of his DNA all over that Ruth monument that he likes to touch inappropriately before games.
Slow readers over there, prolly.
Classic…
thought it was quite amusing to see a Hummer commercial following a segment on the Mitchell report just now
a car on steroids
LOL
this is a societal problem, a problem of human nature
when there’s money involved, people will cheat to get some
and we have houses on steroids being in such demand, that financial houses everywhere are in jeopardy
greed is everywhere
we are in war because of oil
where does it stop? it doesn’t
and with HGH undetectable, the real conclusion is
business as usual
It sounds like you’re quoting Springsteen lyrics.
it is business as usual
“even we, the fans and media, need to accept a certain amount of responsibility”
I accept absolutely no responsibility.
I’m with you.
I’m with these guys… I liked 80’s small ball… had no problem, with real baserunning and real management to win games.
The McGwire and Sosa thing was entertaining in a “boy, look what ‘roids can do-kind of way… hmmm this is going to catch on. ”
But there is some truth to home runs being rally killers… how many world series teams were Ralph Kiner and Ernie Banks or Andre Dawson on?
I will admit though that aerial shot of Bonds putting the ball in the drink with a moon shot is very video-game like, cool to see before you shut off your TV and go to bed at night. But I also knew the Giants weren’t going any where so I didn’t care because the Mets handled him reasonably well and didn’t walk him.
Basically some us fans suspected, especially with players skulls expanding before our eyes on TV, but how are we responsible? We should stop watching a 100 year tradition because some players are dirty. Right.
I dont know about you guys, but bringing up these older players, well, I really think Charlie Hustle, Rose, did much LESS to discredit the game than this debacle. Rose should be pardoned by Bush after reading how pervasice this mess is.
Bush ain’t touching this one with a 1,000 foot pole. He used to own a team!
Can you believe that dingbat invested $800,000 into purchasing a share of the Texas Rangers, and sold his share a mere 5 years later when he decided to run for President for $15mil?! Not a bad return.
This, of course, after he realized that he was not going to succeed Fay Vincent as Baseball Commissioner. Could you even imagine?
wow, imagine if george bush was commish and al gore were president? thats like an episode of the twilight zone.
Yeah, it would be all scary and weird! Imagine a U.S. not in a state of perpetual, pre-emptive war. Sends chills down the spine…let’s hope something like that could never happen.
how about the owners taking some responsibility?
like, how about appointing a real commissioner that might actually do something - someone like a Bart Giamatti
no, they want all the money, and all the power, and the anti-trust exemption that creates that money….
and the beat goes on
I accept responsibility. Once, when I was a little kid, I met Lenny Dykstra at a card signing. It was around 1987. I said to Lenny “Wow. I didn’t realize you were so tiny. You look bigger on tv. What a disappointment.” He looked sad. I guess that’s when he started talking to Kirk. The rest is history.
LOL…
Fans responsible…give me a break. Nobody here wants their team to win and then have the wins be tainted by steroids.
I didn’t tell Mo Vaughn or Mark Carreon to take drugs. They did it for their own greedy glory. That is not about ME. That’s about THEM.
I only wish that they would have gotten better stuff so that we won more games…our guys took steroids and the team was still horrible…
i accept responsibility. by constantly telling todd zeile to hit the weights every chance i got im sure he in turn got self concious and did roids.
So I have one question for Paul LoDuca:
Paul, have you thought of any reasons why the Mets never showed any interest in you this offseason yet?
HIs threat to beat up on the Mets next season seems especially hollow now that he won’t be able to restart using roids out of spite like the Dodgers people in the Mitchell report think he would.
I commend Mitchell. I think he did a superb job in an almost impossible situation. He was fair and wrote an excellent report.
I also commend the Mets for getting rid of both Lo Duca and Mota which had the effect of cleaning up their rep a little. Many fans bashed those moves saying Omar was just trying to place the blame on those two players for the collapse. But it appears that’s not the case.
They’ll never clean up the sport entirely but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try. And this report will lead to positive steps toward that goal.
I agree. Mitchell shined today. It’s clear there’s no pro-sox or anti-yankee bias. It’s clear he made every effort to get as far into every little crack that he could. He clearly wasn’t out for shock value as half the names had already been linked.
Wait a minute. Who bashed the Mota move? I would’ve traded him for a tallboy of Ballantine. I’m sure everyone else here would’ve traded him for less.
What I can’t believe is the denial from Yankee fans. It’s longer than the real one in Egypt! I try to think if Piazza had been named would I then try to blame the messenger which is what Yankee fans are doing? I don’t think so. I’d simply accept it and be very sad.
As for Mota, I saw a remark that bashed the Mets/Omar for shifting blame on the collapse onto others and then getting rid of them — milledge, paulie, and mota etc. It might have been just an isolated comment from the spammer known as “firemetsmanagement.” But apart from that there were also many comments bashing them just for paulie and getting rid of a fiery player. But now we know why.
I try to think if Piazza had been named would I then try to blame the messenger which is what Yankee fans are doing? I don’t think so. I’d simply accept it and be very sad.
And that’s your problem right there. You have have the ability to reason and the logic to never be a yankees fan. It’s holding you back from the joy of ignorant bliss.
Well said, Elster.
People can allude to Mike using all they want - bottom line is his name didn’t show up in black and white.
So I will continue to bask in the bliss.
totally agree, piazzas name wouldve crushed me. hes my favorite athlete of all time, right ahead of tim brown. it wouldve tarnished all those moments i remember as a teenager. i wouldnt sit around saying “f mitchel thats bogus, its a lie, piazzas great bla bla bla”. id just be sad and id also in a way feel betrayed and like a fool for praising the guys accomplishments this whole time. but i guess thats the difference between a normal person, and a yankee fan.