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The Mets have issued the following statement, regarding today’s release of the Mitchell Report…
“The Mets support Major League Baseball’s ongoing efforts to eliminate the use of illegal performance enhancing substances. We fully cooperated in the Mitchell investigation and commend the Senator for his efforts in issuing his report.”
…i suspect every team is making essentially the same statement…the thing is, after listening to Sen. George Mitchell, it’s fairly clear that every level of the game, short of scouts, frankly, are responsible for the mess they find themselves in today…even we, the fans and media, need to accept a certain amount of responsibility…fact is, this all happened, and all of us need to just forgive and move on, learn from the past, but never forget what transpired to insure that it never happens again…
and we would like to announce that we have acquired johan santana from the twins for out entire A, AA and AAA farm teams. Thank You
any one else do a fist pump, cartwheel back flip combo when Piazza wasn’t on the list? I was worried he’d be on there.
-johan for hanukkah
p.s. santana for christmas
“The New York Mets feel that as an organization we can take the lead regarding the use of steroids and HGH. Therefore we will double all league penalties imposed on players associated with the Mets. This will take effect in the 2008 season. The New York Mets would like to again thank the Senator for bringing to light the darkness that is illegal drug use.
There….seems to have been a paragraph missing from that statement……
You shoud read the Yankee statement…. “The New York Yankees are currently reviewing the report and have no comment at this time.”
HaHaHaHa….
If you are going to asterisk Bonds, why don’t you asterisk the 2000 World Series… nine New York Yankees from that W.S. Championship Season were on that report….
Including the Juicehead that raged out on our catcher…. TWICE!!!
I wonder if Piazza is sitting at home tonight thinking to himself,
“Did I really consider going out to the mound to confront that roided out freak?”
Clemens is completely denying the statements made about him in this report, and I’ve actually read a statement by his lawyer that uses the term “slander”.
Let’s face the music, Rocket. You’re done. Looks like your HOF career ain’t looking too HOF-ish anymore, huh?
hahahahahahaha
I have to say, albeit very sadly, that I agree with you.
I’d cant believe that all teacms are saying this statement as is mentioned above. Other wise we would not have seen trades for Tejada and FA signings of Gagne. These 2 were named, no?
As far as the MP user theories above…maybe too much of uncle Tommy’s special meatball sauce masked the hgh in mikey’s system.
re: Gagne he was definitely named. What’s really odd is that in the Gagne section the Mitchell report details Theo Epsteins knowledge of this in 11/06, then in 8/07 Epstein trades for him. Weird. My pdf file of the report won’t allow me to cut and paste it but it’s on page 219.
re: Mikey’s uncle’s sauce, soylent green is people!
The same thing happened with Brendan Donnely.
And the Dodger FO should be ashamed of themselves. Not only did they know that their guy was using, but they used this knowledge to raise his trade value, traded him while he was off the juice so that it wouldn’t show up in his physical, and documented that they knew he was going to start using again after the trade! It doesn’t get much worse than that!
I don’t think Piazza used, otherwise he would have charged the mound. Though he did look crazy charging Mota.
Whenever a muscle doesn’t tear but instead the tendon tears away from the bone there is cause for concern about why the muscle exceeds the strength of the tendon. Also the strength the muscle has to rip the tendon from the bone.
Piazza had that injury as well as Nomar.
Food for thought.
Don’t care. He wasn’t mentioned, and I hope he’s never mentioned. Ever.
So you guys are seriously making accusations about Piazza because he WASN’T named in the report?!?
There has been zero evidence of him taking steroids. The guy is a solidified first ballot HOFer. Maybe we should be ripping on the people who we have proof for.
javajoe, honest question, are you a doctor or med school student? bc if not, no offense your medical opinion means jack. im not fimiliar with nomars injury but what does him having the same one have anything to do with piazza using roids? nomar wasnt in the report at all, if youre going by that fake list that was circling the internet your opinion is even less legitimate.
the Yankees comment was the extremely bogus annoucement that A-Rod is officially re-signed
smoke screen
ladies & gentlemen, your 2000 World Series Champion New York Yankees
brought to you by BALCO
April ‘09 they’re moving into “the house that Balco built.”
Also, if Clemens is denying this so vehemently I’m sure there’s plenty of his DNA all over that Ruth monument that he likes to touch inappropriately before games.
Slow readers over there, prolly.
Classic…
thought it was quite amusing to see a Hummer commercial following a segment on the Mitchell report just now
a car on steroids
LOL
this is a societal problem, a problem of human nature
when there’s money involved, people will cheat to get some
and we have houses on steroids being in such demand, that financial houses everywhere are in jeopardy
greed is everywhere
we are in war because of oil
where does it stop? it doesn’t
and with HGH undetectable, the real conclusion is
business as usual
It sounds like you’re quoting Springsteen lyrics.
it is business as usual
“even we, the fans and media, need to accept a certain amount of responsibility”
I accept absolutely no responsibility.
I’m with you.
I’m with these guys… I liked 80’s small ball… had no problem, with real baserunning and real management to win games.
The McGwire and Sosa thing was entertaining in a “boy, look what ‘roids can do-kind of way… hmmm this is going to catch on. ”
But there is some truth to home runs being rally killers… how many world series teams were Ralph Kiner and Ernie Banks or Andre Dawson on?
I will admit though that aerial shot of Bonds putting the ball in the drink with a moon shot is very video-game like, cool to see before you shut off your TV and go to bed at night. But I also knew the Giants weren’t going any where so I didn’t care because the Mets handled him reasonably well and didn’t walk him.
Basically some us fans suspected, especially with players skulls expanding before our eyes on TV, but how are we responsible? We should stop watching a 100 year tradition because some players are dirty. Right.
I dont know about you guys, but bringing up these older players, well, I really think Charlie Hustle, Rose, did much LESS to discredit the game than this debacle. Rose should be pardoned by Bush after reading how pervasice this mess is.
Bush ain’t touching this one with a 1,000 foot pole. He used to own a team!
Can you believe that dingbat invested $800,000 into purchasing a share of the Texas Rangers, and sold his share a mere 5 years later when he decided to run for President for $15mil?! Not a bad return.
This, of course, after he realized that he was not going to succeed Fay Vincent as Baseball Commissioner. Could you even imagine?
wow, imagine if george bush was commish and al gore were president? thats like an episode of the twilight zone.
Yeah, it would be all scary and weird! Imagine a U.S. not in a state of perpetual, pre-emptive war. Sends chills down the spine…let’s hope something like that could never happen.
how about the owners taking some responsibility?
like, how about appointing a real commissioner that might actually do something - someone like a Bart Giamatti
no, they want all the money, and all the power, and the anti-trust exemption that creates that money….
and the beat goes on
I accept responsibility. Once, when I was a little kid, I met Lenny Dykstra at a card signing. It was around 1987. I said to Lenny “Wow. I didn’t realize you were so tiny. You look bigger on tv. What a disappointment.” He looked sad. I guess that’s when he started talking to Kirk. The rest is history.
LOL…
Fans responsible…give me a break. Nobody here wants their team to win and then have the wins be tainted by steroids.
I didn’t tell Mo Vaughn or Mark Carreon to take drugs. They did it for their own greedy glory. That is not about ME. That’s about THEM.
I only wish that they would have gotten better stuff so that we won more games…our guys took steroids and the team was still horrible…
i accept responsibility. by constantly telling todd zeile to hit the weights every chance i got im sure he in turn got self concious and did roids.
So I have one question for Paul LoDuca:
Paul, have you thought of any reasons why the Mets never showed any interest in you this offseason yet?
HIs threat to beat up on the Mets next season seems especially hollow now that he won’t be able to restart using roids out of spite like the Dodgers people in the Mitchell report think he would.
I commend Mitchell. I think he did a superb job in an almost impossible situation. He was fair and wrote an excellent report.
I also commend the Mets for getting rid of both Lo Duca and Mota which had the effect of cleaning up their rep a little. Many fans bashed those moves saying Omar was just trying to place the blame on those two players for the collapse. But it appears that’s not the case.
They’ll never clean up the sport entirely but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try. And this report will lead to positive steps toward that goal.
I agree. Mitchell shined today. It’s clear there’s no pro-sox or anti-yankee bias. It’s clear he made every effort to get as far into every little crack that he could. He clearly wasn’t out for shock value as half the names had already been linked.
Wait a minute. Who bashed the Mota move? I would’ve traded him for a tallboy of Ballantine. I’m sure everyone else here would’ve traded him for less.
What I can’t believe is the denial from Yankee fans. It’s longer than the real one in Egypt! I try to think if Piazza had been named would I then try to blame the messenger which is what Yankee fans are doing? I don’t think so. I’d simply accept it and be very sad.
As for Mota, I saw a remark that bashed the Mets/Omar for shifting blame on the collapse onto others and then getting rid of them — milledge, paulie, and mota etc. It might have been just an isolated comment from the spammer known as “firemetsmanagement.” But apart from that there were also many comments bashing them just for paulie and getting rid of a fiery player. But now we know why.
I try to think if Piazza had been named would I then try to blame the messenger which is what Yankee fans are doing? I don’t think so. I’d simply accept it and be very sad.
And that’s your problem right there. You have have the ability to reason and the logic to never be a yankees fan. It’s holding you back from the joy of ignorant bliss.
Well said, Elster.
People can allude to Mike using all they want - bottom line is his name didn’t show up in black and white.
So I will continue to bask in the bliss.
totally agree, piazzas name wouldve crushed me. hes my favorite athlete of all time, right ahead of tim brown. it wouldve tarnished all those moments i remember as a teenager. i wouldnt sit around saying “f mitchel thats bogus, its a lie, piazzas great bla bla bla”. id just be sad and id also in a way feel betrayed and like a fool for praising the guys accomplishments this whole time. but i guess thats the difference between a normal person, and a yankee fan.
I dont think i saw any Braves on the list (or at least players in a Braves uniform) Kudos to them.
they do have a FEDEX receipt implicating Gary Sheffield in Feb ‘03 when he was a Brave, but currently on the team I haven’t found one yet. Still looking…
Yah I forgot about him. He’s changed so many teams I don’t know who he was with and when…
I always suspected that the Braves used steroids as an excuse (a good excuse) not to resign guys to lucrative deals in free agency that played well for them, such as Sheffield, Boone, Javy Lopez. Everyone questioned at the time how they could let so many RBI’s go at once.
And anyone who didn’t see the LoDuca thing coming was blind. Power surge in LA, built like a rock, now pudgy and warning track power at best. He did it to get his pay day, plain and simple. Gagne was a below average 5th starter who suddenly became a lights out reliever.
I’m just amazed Brady Anderson isn’t on there. If he is, I overlooked it.
Well, they had at least 4 players who had done PEDs sometime in their careers — Pratt, Franco, Justice, and Neagle. So they don’t get off the hook. Those are just the ones I can think of.
Many of the players associated with the Mets also did the stuff only before or after they were on the team. At least that’s what the report said.
I think the Mets came out pretty “clean” in this report too. Relatively speaking.
There have been a number of occasions over the years when the Braves made deals that didn’t completely make sense on the merits but that in retrospect seemed designed to get users off the team. The best example is Klesko and Boone for Reggie Sanders and Quilvio Veras.
Aaah Quilvio Veras. Whatever happen to him. Wasn’t he a top prospect for us. Where did we send him??
Just found out we traded him for Carl Everett…
Good point, kudos to Cox and Schuerholz indeed. Kent Mercker got his HGH in 10/02, then played for ATL later in 2003, but that’s a stretch I guess. Paul Byrd apparently had shipments sent to the Braves spring training camp when he played there in ‘04. Other guys who have played in ATL are on the list (Justice, M. Franco, Stanton, Rocker) but their umm, indiscretions, occurred when they were with other teams.
john rocker!!!!!!
Duh, yeah. Him too. In addition to the other players I mentioned above.
Paul Byrd
Byrd was a Brave too. U got me on that one. He’s another one I can’t keep track of…
Mike Stanton
Kent Mercker
Mercker was not on the Braves when it was reported as Gravedigger says above. Stanton was a Yankee. He was implicated around the Subway Series years.
True. But let’s be honest here, there is absolutely no way of knowing for sure exactly when any of these guys actually began their use. Just because that Mitchell has it documented when they started buying from one of the only sources he was able to infiltrate doesn’t mean that is when they started poking themselves in the rear.
Take LoDuca’s situation for example. Seyler implicates him with steroids long before he is known to have bought the stuff from Radomski.
True i’m not saying the report is the end all. But right now its all we have to go by…
The Mitchell Report says he’s implicated in 2003. He was with the Rays then and Texas the year before. I’m talking about guys that were wearing Brave’s uniforms when using or sorry when they’re “associated” with the stuff.
as best as I can figure it the only two people (named in the Mitchell report) who did PEDs while wearing a Braves uni were Sheffield and Byrd. Mercker was a Cincinnatti Red when he got his stuff but then became a Brave later that same season (’03).
Also Neagle was a Yankee when he was implicated while Matt Franco was a Met.
This is a sad, sad day in baseball and I hope the players no that what they did was wrong.. I remember as a teenager watching Hundley, and just cheering for him.. I remember when Donnels came up…. It is very sad to say but just because a players name isn’t on this list doesn’t mean he doesn’t or didn’t use… Just a sad sad day….. as well I don’t take any responsibility for this at all.. I didn’t sell it to them, buy it for them or give it to them… I didn’t inject them nor did I know they were using so why should any normal fan have any responsibility here… I think the organizations that were quoted in this report like the Rangers and the Dodgers should be fined heavily or something done to them, because they new, they new.. we didn’t know.. we may have thought or assumed but just like when I used to powerlift at the gym, alot of guys at work would bust me asking if I used steriods.. then I would go to the gym and be there for 2 or 3 hours and see a guy come in for 40minutes and leave and he was huge and I wasn’t … I am a big guy but noone that a doctor or someone that knows about steriods would call a user….. just because you think it doesn’t make it so, but just because you don’t, doesn’t mean it isn’t…
don’t worry i won’t … just thought I would write something a with a little more meaning then trying to act like my team or my players didn’t do it only the other guys did… ….
I agree it’s a sad day. I’m lucky in that none of my favorite players were implicated. I was nervously waiting to read Mike Piazza’s name and I think that would have crushed me. Had I been a huge fan of, say, Mark Carreon our wayward son, I would feel pretty badly, but ultimately because I didn’t have a strong personal attachment to any name that surprised me (i.e. Dykstra did not surprise) I sort of feel like I dodged a bullet.
By no means do I think it was “just the other guys,” but personally I do think “phew, it wasn’t one of MY FAVORITE guys.” Given your strong feelings about Hundley though, I empathize.
I am going turning on my son’s PS right now and putting in the cheat code to make all the players’ heads bigger…
enter the code “steroid”
It doesn’t work on Bonds.
for Bonds the code is the same, but you have to rub it on your knees
and pretend you don’t know what it is.
funny article about clemens & piazza
http://www.mlbfleecefactor.com
“even we, the fans and media, need to accept a certain amount of responsibility”
No Thanks…you can take blame, Cerrone, if it’s eating at you bu tI just watch the game and hope my team wins. If they cheat, it stains the victory anyway and I don’t want it. It sucks enough seeing all the former Mets on the list and knowing that a former Mets clubby was the kingpin of all this, at least this segment. These guys make their own decisions and can take full responsibility themselves. I have enough crap it my own life to worry about where I don’t need to assume any responsibility for Clemens shooting needles in his rear.
A-MEN!
Well said.
I really love how offhandedly Matt blames the fans for this.
This is in NO WAY the fault of the fans. No fan out there wants their team’s wins to be tainted. No fan out there wants their team to cheat. I think it’s moronic to place any of the blame on the fans. They didn’t inject the players. They didn’t buy the stuff. They put no pressure on their team to do so. All the fans did was show up at the ballpark and support their team with all their heart.
This post needs to be revised, or at the very least justified.
What about all those Bonds apologists out in San Fran? Don’t they share some of the blame?
Have any of the Bonds apologists openly said they’re happy that Bonds took steroids? Do any of them truly like the fact that his home run record will remain tainted in the minds of baseball fans? I’m willing to guess the answer is no.
And even if Giants fans all defended Bonds’ use of roids, and pushed him to do it, how does that justify blaming every baseball fan for what has happened to the sport.
It’s ridiculous. The fans don’t belong anywhere in this post, period.
Aw, thank you guys for cracking me up after such a horrible disastrous day.
“brought to you by balco” haha
I thought its been a great day. I was looking for things to come out today. Though the report wasn’t the earth shattering compilation I was hoping it nonetheless provided some answers in the form of who & when…
Oh, no I totally agree there. I just meant my personal life, I had a horrible day. The steroid thing was great though. Esp all the Yanks being named.
Feel better!
aww, i will try. thxs =)
Hey…
When things get really rough, just think that you could be Roger Clemens. :)
hey, it’s explained lo duca and soiled the yankee tradition a bit. and, it gave omar a much-needed respite from the media. perhaps he was able to get some work done. come on, baby, let’s make a deal to improve this non-steroid taken team of ours!
Santa I want Santana. All of Metsblog at once,
Santa I want Santana
Santa I want Santana
Santa I want Santana
SEND JOHAN 2 NEW YORK
I’m sick of all the holier-than-thou attitudes expressed by the media.
And we ARE all responsible for this. Fans. US society in general. Each one of us.
That’s the hyprocrisy of it all. Turn on TV. See the ads. What’s our answer to every problem? Take a pill. We are a medicated populace.
Want a sexual-performance enhancer? Pop some viagra.
Want a mood enhancer? How about some prozac?
Oh wait. I know what you all are thinking. These are legal. Available by prescription.
But the basic motivation–to get an edge, to perform in a beyond-normal way–is the same.
If an injection was available that would guarantee an exceptionally high score on the SATs, ask yourselves…
…how many parents would let their kids take it?
Plenty–in this crazed, ya-gotta-be-better-than-the-rest society.
Sad. Clubhouses are nothing more than a microcosm of the nation at large.
I disagree. My world is nothing like a baseball clubhouse. I have to buy my own food, buy and wash my own clothing, there’s nobody asking for my autograph, and neither I, nor any my co-workers make anywhere near the baseball minimum salary. Yet, if somebody at my workplace gets mixed up in drugs…his reward is NO MORE JOB.
Yet, somewhat we go to work sober and try to live moral and legal lives. Maybe we take some OTC stuff for our headaches, but we’re not out there looking for ILLEGAL drugs. Yes, there is a law against using steriods without a legit doc’s Rx.
So let the players take responsibility and face the music. Any music. They won’t. Stop blaming society for an individual’s bad behavior. Please.
dude, that was a crazy tangent. you shouldn’t trivialize the medicinal needs of others.
Can’t say I can disagree w/ you. We do live in a society, in a world where its eat or be eaten. I went to law school and similar to your higher SAT euphemism, many (& I mean many) of my fellow students (now NY&NJ attorneys) would take ADEROL or RITILIN [sp?] which allowed them to focus better than another. I thought it was cheating b/c it gave them an advantage over me. And when you’re graded against a curve it all mattered.
In fact our society is not that different from the wild. Isn’t it survival of the fittest. Isn’t it eat or be eaten. Its ingrained in all organisms on the planet. Its who & what we are. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! The steroids era is a result of one trying to one-up another.
But the one difference here is that the players had a “choice” to take the drugs. That is one big difference!
man, when are we going to get back to the santana talks?
Its funny you mentioned that right now. I just googled “Minnesota twins blog” and on a blogspot.com page Twin fans don’t want to see him on the Yankees or Sox. But are more than ready to offer him to the Mets for our prospects. In fact, one of them is very very high on Gomez.
Omar I hope your listening. Its gonna cost a lot of money and its a risk. But it might be a risk worth taking. He’s not just a good pitcher. He’s a special pitcher. (and he can hit!).
Sorry.
I am NOT responsible for this in any way, shape, or form. Not one.
I am not currently, nor have I EVER been, medicated in any of your above mentioned ways. Ever.
So as far as I am concerned, somebody else can take the responsibility for this and shove it wherever the Hell they want to.
I love baseball and this bothers me. But in no way will I ever accept responsibility for the players juicing themselves, and I can’t believe that you are willing to.
The first five letters of Santana is Santa. Coincidence? I think not.
*are S-A-N-T-A is what I meant to say.
No Raul Mondesi, Richard Hildago, Juan Gonzales?
Yeah and why isn’t Ivan Rodriguez on this list?
And nice to see that Omar signed a few more garb*ge catchers the other day, including Raul Casanova?!! A 35 year old lat*n stiff.
Why not sign this Fukumori for the bullpen that Texas just signed? 2 years, 3 million is not a lot of money.
So I guess we are bring back the exact same choking bullpen.
Fire Minaya now…And Willie obviously.
My morning wouldn’t be complete without another uplifting commentary from F.M.M!
and the answer to Rob’s question about those players? There wasn’t any proof located, so they were left out. Doesn’t mean they didn’t do it (but then again, doesn’t mean they did!)
I would sign Prior but Freddie Coupons wants to keep the payroll under 100 million, look like. What a joke.
highly doubt it, since Wagner, Delgado, Beltran and Alou alone must be pulling down close to 50 million alone.
ok if another person says that the fans are guilty in this thing one more time, i am going take my computer and shove the pointiest corner into their eye. how are fans, who just want their team to do well, have anything to do with this? get off of it. i want a stringent policy that if you get caught once, you are out . hows that?
I agree. If gambling gets you a lifetime ban in baseball, then use of PEDs should definitely warrant a lifetime ban. Pete Rose never bet against his own team and he’s paying the price. What about all the players who actually CHEAT and all they get is a fine and a suspension?
Besides, if you tested positive for PEDs in international competition like the Olympics, you’d be banned for life. Why doesn’t the same standard apply to baseball?
Ordinarily, I’m pro-union, but the MLBPA needs to go. It has done nothing but ruin the game of baseball over the last 20 years or so.
pete rose could have saved his legacy by not lying and denying for over a decade. i cannot fault anyone for not voting him into the hall.
How are fans responsible for a professional athlete who chooses to use steroids?
Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
i think the point concerning fan responsibility goes like this:
fans hunger for performance, pay big bucks to see the performance, and demand GMs get the right players to put up the performance.
the word is implicit. i believe the fans (including myself) are implicitely responsible for creating the demand for the game in such a way that makes it incredible lucrative, and therefore creates the environment and incentive for players to achieve greatness and the accompaning riches at any cost.
a fans imperative is to have their team do well. you cant fault them because that is what being a fan of a team is about. the fan is the true victim in this because we were lied to.
thats like blaming the american citizen for this administrations rendition program.
“fact is, this all happened, and all of us need to just forgive and move on, learn from the past, but never forget what transpired to insure that it never happens again…”
…Was this written by Matt Cerrone or Mark McGwire?
OK, I can’t take it anymore!
What are we going to do?
Should we all write “fan letters” to Johan and tell him we would love to root for him for the next 7 years?
A grass roots fan letter campaign?
Maybe a couple of thousand letters would not hurt! I can’t stand waiting and waiting and nothing!
It is so much like last year with that Zito guy and the fear, of course, is that like last year, nothing is finalized and we spent our winter improving nothin’.
Is it just me?
Should I have a Johnny Walker and forget about it?
The Jets are killin’ me…
It is December 14th. Drink a bottle and wake up in 10 days, a few more deals will be made by then, and a few more after that.
Unrelated but the Pirates are shopping Morris and Nady is still available.
Those two would be fine for next year. Morris has 1 year 9 million left on his contract. He would give similar or better numbers than Livan at only a 1 year cost. We already know that Nady would be a perfect platoon/1B back up. Maybe a couple of prospects to Pitt and take on both salaries and it could get done cheap?
Pedro, Maine, Perez, Elduque/Pelfrey, Morris? We could do worse. Plus the prospect dealt would not hamper the Santana trade as I would not give up much for these 2. Something like Humber and a couple of B prospects. The Pirates would be saving over 10 million and gaining a SP for this year?
Forget Humber, to dump Morris’ salary, just the B prospects! Nady comes along for the ride.
I don’t know what Pitt actually needs, but this sounds more like a GOtay or Carp kind of deal (although I do like Gotay).
I hate the idea of Livan being anywhere near this team, especially for multiple years. Compared to that, Morris sounds like a great option!
I also like Nady for the BU RF/1B righty power bat tht they need, although Mench might be even better, since he only costs money (wonder if he signed anywhere yet?)
we should do whatever it takes to get back Nady
if we’ve learned anything by now, it’s that some players do better at Shea than others, and Nady obviously fits here
I’d do Humber or Pelfrey for Nady straight up
I seriously doubt either of them will ever amount to anything
that is, unless we need both to get Santana
wow. that’s crazy. you could probably do church for nady straight up. what in the world makes you think two early 20-something hard throwing pitching prospects should be traded for a journeyman outfielder? Pelfrey and Humber at least have upside. Nady has peaked.
i know you want us to be realistic, maybe you should look in the mirror.
The Pirates offered Nady arbitration yesterday. How would that affect a trade? Would it have to wait for the arbitration hearing, or can they trade him before? Would the acquiring team consider taking him when they don’t know what he will be awarded in arbitration?
Morris is owed $9.5mm in ‘08, with a $9mm club option for ‘09 that carries a $1mm buyout. He had a pretty miserable 1.61 WHIP in Pittsburgh last year to go with his 6.10 era, but it was a small sample in a jacket-free environment and maybe he was disappointed to be traded to the Pirates, so a change of scenery to a winning club with a Jacket might do him some good.
unless nady can pitch, i’m not interested…
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Yankee fans are going absolutely crazy over the Mitchell report. They’re crying about Mitchell being a Red Sox board member, screaming about conflict of interest and other such nonsense. They’re also saying that there’s no proof that anyone actually took steroids. It’s hilarious.
nice article…
nice article…
I’m not trying to be funny here, but I wonder if any of the guys named here, mainly the active guys, are on suicide watch right now.
Seriously.
People have done themselves in for less than being dragged out and completely humiliated in front of literally the entire world.
I hope that some of these guys at least have what it takes to move past this and get on with their lives.
That would really be so tragic and heart rendering if that were to happen ….
With one exception — Clemens can jump off a bridge right now for all I care.
He’s the one least likely to kill himself. Guys with personalities like that will die thinking themselves absolutely perfect.
exactly,
I’m going to guess that Kevin Elster was a one year user hitting 24 hrs and 99 rbis to land a nice big (back then) contract from Pitt.
oh well.