Senator George Mitchell’s 20-month steroids investigation will be released at 2 pm today at a news conference in New York City.
MLB commissioner Bud Selig will hold a follow-up news conference around 4:30 pm.
The list of players who are referenced in the report will be posted on MLB.com at 2 pm.
According to Bob Klapisch in the Bergen Record, citing ‘an industry official,’ no Mets from their current 40-man roster are named in the report. However, ‘several prominent Yankees will be named, writes Klapisch.
…this is going to be an awkward and embarrassing day for MLB, to say the least…frankly, i sense that most fans don’t really care, at least to the extent that attendance will suffer…
…i mean, it’s hardly news at this point that baseball players did steroids during the last 10 or so years…
…personally, i’m far more interested in the report’s recommendations about how to keep this from ever happening again…i’m also eager to see what role, if any, the league and the teams played in all of this…
…that said, i am a bit curious to see how MLB treats the active players who are listed, because there will not be proof that any player actually used the drugs, or failed a test, the report will only show that they were ordered or purchased…which will make punishment a bit tricky…
At his blog for Newsday, Ken Davidoff lists five questions he would like to ask Mitchell and Selig while traveling around New York between press conferences today.
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I would have figured Show’s name would have come up.
Jeter’s name being on that list would warm my heart on this cold winter day. Yes, I’m that petty.
You, sir, are not alone.
Will Clemens do?
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/2007/12/13/2007-12-13_report_clemens_named_in_mitchell_report.html
JUST GOT THIS ACROSS THE MY WIRE AT WORK, HAVE NO IDEA IF IT’S RIGHT…ONLY LOOKS TO BE ABOUT HALF, BUT HERE YOU GO:
“Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Bar ry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton B radley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozz ie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenn y Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Fr anklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Jua n Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, jackkindregan (9:54:45 AM) : Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gon zalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Ma rk McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham
Is this from the AP wire?
Ramon Castro is on the Mets 40 man…conflicting reports
as i said, i have no idea where this is coming from. it just came across my screen and it seemed fairly legit (i mean, manny alexander?), so i thought i’d let you in on it.
Darryl Kile’s name jumps out at me. I wonder if that has anything to do with why he passed away in the middle of a season?
Abraham Nunez???
continuation….
Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Ha irston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, R obert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offe rman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, A lbert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rod riguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez , Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.”
I love seeing Andy Petite up there.
Wow Pujols, too? I feel like I hit the lottery!
don’t get your hopes up…i repeat…this is an unconfirmed list. but if it’s real, the mets dodged a bullet.
and john rocker is on it. roid rage?
Well, it looks real enough…I mean, some of those guys really suck, so they must have gotten a bad batch of roids.
Whose Maurice Vaugh?
well, weren’t steriods “legal” in baseball during the period in question? I doubt anything substantial in the way of penalties will come from it…
They were never legal, they just weren’t banned substances….
Exactly…remember when McGwire pursued the single season home run record? He used Andro…At the time, the suppliment was legal (in baseball). In a way it’s a sham…to an extent. Nevertheless, I am intrigued at who appears on the list! We know who will appear (i.e., Bonds, Giambi, Caminiti etc). But who do you least likely suspect?
hundleys will probably be on the list as far as mets go i think.
Pete Rose.
Rogah Clemens could be in it.
Oh my Gahd!!!! Nawt Rogah!!
Rogah Clemens has yoosed stehroids..this is a sayed day for Yankee fans!
Rawjah!
Rawjah may have used an illegal substance…But question…Do you think this will be a fair assessment? Remember, Senator Mitchell has ties to the Red Sox. And…I feel David Ortiz used some illegal substances. If a Red Sox player is not named then this whole inquiry and investigation is a SHAM!
i think theyll put in some lesser name red sox guys like troy oleary or something to appease those conspiracy theorists. i would be surprised if any one really important to the red sox success shows up (schilling, manny, tek, ortiz).
CORRECTION… When McGuire used Andro.. it was legal everywhere.. I was taking it!! It was sold at GNC!
NEWSFLASH: Metsblog reader “bonatom” is the latest person to be listed in the Mitchell Report.
Bonatom is suspended from reading Metsblog for 15 days!
that’s why I had “legal” in quotes. It wasn’t banned in baseball, but it was illegal in the real world. Pretty presumptuous of baseball, no?
Eddie Coleman on the FAN said last night that Piazza was not in the report either. I’m really glad as that would have been crushing.
Some will say he could have juiced anyway. True. However, he’s escaped Balco, Grimsley, Radomski, Canseco, the Florida pharmacy raids, and now Mitchell. No one he’s ever known has ever even whispered about him. You got to give him the benefit of the doubt. I believe he was clean.
God is a Mets fan today!
It makes no sense that Piazza would be on the list. If he was going to be on the list, we would have definitely accepted salary arbitration, so he could have a contract in hand for the release of the report.
It’s widely assumed that he didn’t accept arbitration because of an under-the-table deal with the A’s- that he would let them get a draft pick for him in exchange for them not trading him to Minnesota or other similarly interested teams late in the year last season.
That’s great news…i was a little worried lately eventhough i didn’t think he was at all when he was playing…as long as he isnt and no current mets are then i’m happy…guys who i do think might be are obviously segui, prob hundley, maybe kent, payton, cendeno, ordonez…it’ll be funny if a bunch of guys from that 94 team are on it considering how bad they were…like segui, hundley, bonilla, kent, and guys like joe orsulak hah.
Joe Orsulak juiced?? Noooooo!
I always liked Orsulak . . .
Actually the 94 team was pretty scrappy – tied for 2nd when the strike hit!
Weren’t they like 27 games out though?
That is one great bit of news to hear if it is true. Piazza is the one guy I was hoping would not show up on that list.
What joy would it be to see all the stars from those Yankee teams from 96-00 show up on that list…it will make the Pats tarnished superbowl image (Spy gate) pale in comparison
I have a feeling it’s less the Paul O’Neill/Derek Jeter/Bernie Williams crowd of guys and more the Johnny Damon/Jason Giambi/Gary Sheffield type guys (though I could obviously be wrong.) The only guy from that ‘96-’00 core that I wouldn’t be shocked to see on the list is Andy Pettitte.
The guy who I am by far the most interested in is Roger Clemens. He’s basically the white, pitching version of Barry Bonds, yet he’s escaped a lot of the scrutiny that Bonds has had. It would be huge if he’s on the list (plus, it would pretty much take him out of the debate for best pitcher of the past 25 years, leaving it between Pedro and Maddux, 2 guys I’ve always liked a lot more.)
Agreed on the Pettitte being on the list…if Roger is there, he will be there, given they are best-buds and all.
the brokeback buddies…following each other around the country.
I bet Nolan Ryan will be on it. That’s been rumored for some time…
Does this go back that far? Ryan retired in 1993.
I’ve long suspected him myself though – no one gets stronger into their mid-40s, not him, not Clemens, not anyone.
Plus those early 90s Rangers team, under the fearless leadership of one George W. Bush, are at the spicenter of alot of this stuff – Sosa, Palmeiro, Pudge, Juan Gone, Canseco…why not Ryan? We think he was only taking Advil??!!
if using steroids or buying large quantities was considered a felony, then they would fall under the statutes of baseball, which at least must say that committing a felony nullifies the terms of a contract. of course, all those contracts are probably paid off by now.
But let’s be honest–there’s gotta be some former/retired Mets on there. I don’t think we’re gonna escape completely unscathed.
Jay Payton will be on the list.
Agreed. So will John Franco…
Just a hunch.
Bobby Bonilla?
If Todd Hundley’s not on the list, it’s because he dodged the bullet.
Most of the former Mets stars seemed more into doing coke than steroids.
if derek jeter shows up on the mitchell report this will be the best christmas of my life….if mike piazza shows up on that report i think id put it right up there with trading seaver. obviously very different situations but the emotional tole it would take on fans would be similar i think.
My money is that Roger Clemens is on the list….
I wouldn’t be suprised to see Pettite and Posada on the list.
Current Yankee candidates…..
Posada, Giambi, Abreu,
Former ones….Paul Oneil, Clemens, Tino
Recent Met possibles…..
Benitez, Mota (obvious), Jay Payton, Burnitz
Just because MLB did not ban them yet, doesn’t make them legal in this country. Anyway who cares… If there are no Mets no the list and prominent Yankees are.. I will be doing the jig and drinking whiskey tonight.
I’m so mean, but I’m so excited to see who’s on the list…
I’m hoping Pujols’s name is on the list.
Benitez!!! Benny!!! hahahaha.
I don’t get the hostility to Pujols. He’s a little surly, but the guy is having the greatest start to a Major League career since Ted Williams and Joe DiMaggio. I really, really hope he and ARod aren’t on the list, because they are two of the greatest hitters of all time, and if they’re clean, they’ll give people some reason to start trusting baseball again in a few years when they are going after the all-time records.
Sometimes you have to step back from being a Mets fan and be a baseball fan, and it would be AWFUL for baseball if one or both of those guys is on the list.
hahaha, I am a baseball fan. I appreciate the sport and other great players who aren’t on the Mets. However, Pujols is one player I really can not stand. And I really have nothing against Alex Rodriquez.
honestly i agree with your sentiments, if arod wasnt a yankee id hope he didnt show up bc id root for him to “clean up” the record books by replacing bonds. but hes a yankee so he is under a different set of rules now. i used to like pujols until the nlcs in 06 and after he complained about not getting the mvp despite just winning a WS. his personality just rubs me the wrong way i dont like him.
I thought there would be plenty of Mets on the list with the whole clubhose attendant scandal.
The whole “was it banned by MLB” conversation is crazy thanks to Donald Fehr.
I’m sure Murder isn’t banned in the CBA, but do all felonies (or any crimes) need to be itemized in the CBA in order for people to believe what these players did was wrong?
the mlb owners’ wallets have been on steroids since the homerun explosion in baseball
No Mets on the list…. Victory Party at Mcfaddens… 42 and 2nd. tonight.. .who’s with me!!!!
edgardo alfonso,
bernard gilkey,
kevin elster,
todd hundley,
robin ventura
Jeff Kent
Jason Isringhausen
Lance Johnson
Bobby Bonilla
John Franco
Dwight Gooden
David Cone
Jeromy Burnitz
re: Gooden…wouldn’t mixing Coke and steroids be a really bad idea?
also, I really hope Fonzie isn’t on the list. He was and always will be one of my favorite Mets.
Gooden was really into bad ideas, though.
he was injured for a period in the early 90’s –
if the guy would shove coke up his nose why wouldnt he take steroids /his judgment has always been suspect..
fonzie i just have a feeling about..if you look at his power numbers, his injury history and his fast decline
gotta take the good with the bad..
If you are going back to the days of Gooden, then surely you would have to include Dykstra …
no question about Dykstra .. but Gooden was on the team thru 1994 .. Lenny D left in 1989
You are right…But I thought the investigation was focused primarily on the mid to late 90’s up through current time.
PLUS Gooden is Gary Sheffield’s Uncle.. I think Dwight is going to be the biggest surprise ex Met.
Gooden could be on from his Yankee Days too… yeah thats it.
even if Gooden does show up, there’s no way he was using in ‘84-’86, right (steroids, I mean)? I mean, the guy was so thin, there’s no way he was injecting steroids with that frame.
Re: Mets on the list….
A bunch of dudes I don’t care about, save for Ventura.
I admit to using steroids.
maybe the Yankee’s should change those “Got Rings” shirts to “Got Roids”….lol
Ha ha!
Yankee fan: “twenty-six, twenty six! …. oops, never mind”
There will be Mets on it but only ex-Mets and I don’t think any really prominent ones — ie, no Piazza, Leiter, or Fonzie (hopefully)
I’m impressed that no specific names have been leaked yet.
ESPN just reported Clemens is in the report
If Petitte and Clemens are NOT on this list, then this Mitchell Investigation has been a sham and has no credibility to me. By why would any wholesome christian rednecks be dragged through the mud . . .
I would honestly question some of the credibility by the mere fact that Mitchell has ties to the Red Sox. I would say it is a conflict of interests, made even more suspect by the fact that the early reports have no current Red Sox are on the list.
Breaking news!!
Roger Clemens former trainer obtained steroids.
Breaking News .. its snowing out
LOL, lies. It’s actually raining.
upper westchester.. nice coating already :-)
seriously.. Clemens probably still has it running thru his veins.
haha, so true.
bring on the list!!!!!
Something is wrong when a player like Jose Guillen can sign the biggest deal of his career days after being outted as a juicer. Do you think he (or the Royals) care that he got busted? It’s only 15 days, right?
There should be a mandatory 1-2 year ban for a first positive result. The second offense should result in a lifetime ban. I know this is baseball, but in this instance the 3-strike rule seems a little too forgiving. There is no need for 3 chances. A player knows it’s wrong, why do you need more than one second chance?
problem is, none of these guys failed a test, or were proven to have violated the CBA.
So 15 days and public embarrasment is about all they can do for the “former” cheaters.
Now, future guys failing a test is another story!
ESPN is reporting “Breaking News” that in “inside source” is citing Roger Clemens is on the list of players for the Mitchell Reports.
His stats from 85 to 95 were compared to the stats from 96 to Present and the latter years were significantly higher than his earlier years…
If this report doesn’t go as far back as the Lenny Dystra Phillies… it’s bogus.
Its hard to go so far back when nobody in the players union would assist the Mitchell Investigation. This report will be bogus only if he names names and thats it. He has to prove that all of this could have been avoided by the PU and MLB but wasnt.
*Waves at Paul Lo Duca*
early 90’s phillies?
Dykstra
Pete Incaviglia
John Kruk
Curt Schilling
Darren Daulton
I think Kruk still does steriods.
by “steroids” I’m sure you mean Dunkin Donuts.
Late 90’s Yankees
Tino Martinez
Chuck Knoblauch
Scott Brosius
Bernie Williams
Andy Pettitte
David Cone
Paul ONeill
Roger Clemens
I honestly don’t see Bernie on the list. He was a pure hitter, and was consistent through his entire career. Tino I feel the same way.
What about the year Tino suddenly decided to hit 44 home runs?
what about the year Roger Maris suddenly decided to hit 61 home runs? There IS a such thing as non-steroid enhanced career year. That’s my biggest problem with this witch hunt (except when it’s crucifying Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens, than I have no problem with it.)
Mariano Rivera
is it just the Mets fan in me or does anyone else suspect that those late 90’s Yanks teams are going to get slammed..
Radomski — while a Mets employee — certainly had contacts with the Yankees players
I mean if you look at some of those players – even the ex mets cone, straw, gooden — they had miraculous comeback years when they were traded to the yanks
it cant be attributed to wearing pinstripes?
Also, The Bergen (N.J.) Record, citing a baseball industry official, says “several” prominent Yankees will be named in the Mitchell report. The paper said the source spoke to a third party who had seen the final report.
“It’s going to be a rough day in the Bronx,” the paper quoted the source as saying.
lol andy pettitte probably coming back in 2009.
Dec. 13th, will forever be “Steriods Day” in my mind now…
Happy Steriods Day everyone!
Make sure to grab some cream and clear and rub up your favorite ball player today!
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Wait, that sounds gay…. maybe I can pitch this as a show to Bravo.
PS- it was always obvious Clemens was on roids…
What’s a Steriod?
Well played.
any of a large group of fat-soluble organic compounds, as the sterols, bile acids, and sex hormones, most of which have specific physiological action.
I’m sorry, I could’t resist. I agree though, today will go down in infamy in baseball history.
Nah, serves me right for being a smart ass and then misspelling words :-)
that would suck if johan was on the list.
Quick Question: I know that steroids would help a pitcher to throw a fastball faster, but would it help to throw a changeup or curveball?
Not just faster, but perhaps maintain his stamina better too. I’ve never pitched before but I would also think you’d need strength to repeatedly throw a curve and change with precision and control throughout a game.
The steroids themselves don’t make you stronger. Steroids let your muscles recover from exertion faster. One benefit of that effect is you can add more muscle in a shorter amount of time, or in the case of pitchers, it lets your arm recover quicker.
exactly. I don’t think it necessarily makes pitchers “better,” I just think it lets them recover faster between outings. I honestly think it has a more demonstrable effect on batters: I don’t think being big and strong really helps pitchers as much as it does hitters. Look at guys like Pedro, Billy Wagner, Scott Kazmir, etc., little guys who have explosive deliveries. Steroids would maybe help them pitch more often, but it wouldn’t make them throw any harder or hit their spots better.
On the other side, I definitely think batters on steroids hit the ball a little bit further. You still have to have the hand-eye coordination and the talent (why Alex Sanchez never hit 73 HR), but it absolutely helps you out.
Ok thanks for clearing that up
Looks like they got that piece of *** Clemens…let’s pray this report is true:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=MLB&hl=227598
If he is not on the list, then the Mitchell report has absolutely zero validity- there is no more obvious steroid/HGH user than him (excluding Bonds, McGwire). Clemens was DONE in 1996 and then “magically” proceeded to be at his best ever and won 4 cy youngs in his late 30’s/40’s. Biologically impossible.
May he be tarnished forever.
If any current Yankees are named, hopefully the rest of the team will give those players the support that they will need at a time like this. It would also be a good time for the fans to rally around the players. When you’re an athlete and you are going through a tough time, I imagine that it would mean a great deal to have the support of your teammates and of the fans.
:cry:
That’s from the Yankee Lohud blog.. They have heard their heroes will be hit hard by the report They are making all sorts of ridiculous excuses why the report is bogus — like how do you know a check to Radomski for hundreds or thousands of dollars wasn’t for a pizza delivery :lol:
Apparently they listended to Mike & mike this morning, where Olney talked about one example where a player was called to talk to Michell based on a check that Rodomski ultimately dismissed.
If I were a Steroid, who’s bloodstream would I be in?
I hear that they are preparing a new section in the Baseball Hall of Fame called ‘Roider Row.
I am CONVINCED that Yadier Molina is on the list…….
hmmmm… arod just finished his contract… thats interesting…
I highly doubt ARod is on he list. Sure, he just re-signed, but lets not forget that he was already locked up for a lot of money before the offseason started. If he had any reason to believe he was gonna be on the list, I seriously doubt he would have opted out and taken the chance that he’s get screwed.
yea ur probably right… but a met fan can dream…
There are some unofficial lists floating around now.
do u have a link?
Ha Ha, Pettitte is on the list
got ‘riod rage?
http://images.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/photos/clemens2.jpg
Somebody name Jeter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can’t wait haaa
HERE’S THE LIST, NO JOKE…
Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez,Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Pior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts,Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez, Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, Jason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood.
Re: Mets on the List
Leading up to today’s annoucement, I was extremely worried that the Mets would really get slammed by the Mitchell Report. There are many reasons for my worry. First, the fact that “Ex-Mets Clubhouse Boy, Radomski” was used to preface every performance enhacing discussion or news item. The Mets don’t get enough bad PR as it is, without adding to it by attaching the steroid scandal to the Mets. Second, it is always the Mets luck to always get a large helping of bad karma. The same karma that makes our prospects never make it (while Yankee prospects become stars), the same karma that cause historic collaspes, the same karma that causes perennial losing.
If there are no current Mets (from the current 40-man roster) as is being reported, then this might be a day that the Mets karma may finally be changing. I can only pray!
oh my goodness gracious! roga clemens is back!
cite?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3153129
let’s just hope the Yankees don’t pull a Patriots and get fired up about people questioning their championships and then go 162-0 next year.
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