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According to Tim Brown, at Yahoo! Sports, free-agent LHP Kyle Lohse is considering offers from the Mets and Phillies, ‘both of which could go to four years.’
In 34 starts for the Reds and Phillies last season, the 29–year-old Lohse was 9–12 with a 4.63 ERA, while striking out 122 batters through 192 innings.
…well, lohse is durable…the thing is, he’s also hittable…basically, he strikes me as the kind of pitcher who, in the perfect ball park, when on his game, can be a great-looking pitcher, but every thing must go right…i don’t want to get ahead of myself here, but, if the Mets are able to acquire Johan Santana, and pair him up with John Maine, Oliver Perez and Pedro Martinez, assuming Mike Pelfrey and Phil Humber will be in Minnesota, lohse is not a bad option as a fifth starter, though i hate the thought of locking him in for at least three years, which is what i believe 
it’ll take…however, if santana or Joe Blanton are not acquired, and pelfrey and humber are still on this team’s roster come opening day, i’d just as soon start them over lohse…
…that said, it could be fun to have lohse in queens if for no other reason than to regularly hear WFAN’s Chris Russo call him Kyle Lucy, as he insists on doing…
…by the way, the comments are back open…
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Lohse is pretty much grasping at straws. Also know as taking whatever crap is still available, just to say you have someone.
Although he is still reasonably young, seems to be healthy, and supposedly has decent “stuff”. Maybe some time with Peterson wil trun him into a serviceable 5th guy?
I would rather take a chance and put the money toward Prior, and use whatever stiff is lying around until he gets back (Vargas, Pelf/Humber/Mulvey, whatever). Probably more upside with that plan.
If they were able to get Santana, and Pelfrey or Humber was still around, I would just pass on Lohse and let them have the spot, although you would be very thin (no SP depth).
Adding him to the current rotatin (same could be said for Silva) would mean Pedro, Maine, Perez, Duque, Lohse. Not too bad, and you still have the PHM trio to step in for the inevitable injury to one of the old guys.
Pelf could then work in AAA or the pen to improve his stuff and control, and be the first guy coming in to fill a rotation hole.
4 years for Lohse though would be nuts. 2 years best, 3 maybe if ht e$ aren’t to bad, but 4 years in nuts.
I just have one second here….Maybe the Mets will break the news that they traded for Santana tonight on Mets Hot Stove…….OK I have to get back to my unicorn to take me to my meeting with a leprechaun. Let me know what happens……
PLUS 10
OK, here is a quick SAT-like association question for everyone. I am in a bad mood today–I root for Mets, Giants, Knicks, Rangers. Any connection?
No chance of any successful postseason to look forward to?
the owners have either died or given way to their incompetent children who run the organizations into the ground?
I guess there has to be a D) all of the above answer!
I like choice S)keep all sharp objects away from Achilles400
Getting this guy would lock 3rd place up for us!
MAKE IT HAPPEN OMAR WOOOOHOO
Well, he helped carry the Phillies down the stretch, and that seemed to work out OK for them.
The fact that the Phils managed to finish strong and take the division with a rotation of hamels, Kendrick, Eaton, Moyer and Lohse proves that you don’t really need SP to win in this league! A high scoring offense and strong BP can do the job too.
Carried the Phillies with a Sept. era of 5.10? He’s a perfect fit for the Met team that collapsed in September.
i agree, so we essentially have 0 of the 3 things you need. strong pitching? old injured ? pedro, inconsistent maine and OP, old injured el duque, and 5th starter. high powered offense? delgado, no alou for 60+ games, brian schneider, luis castillo, ryan church vs lefties. Good bullpen? pray to whatever god you pray to for the health of juan padilla and duaner sanchez.
The fact that the Phils managed to finish strong and take the division with a rotation of hamels, Kendrick, Eaton, Moyer and Lohse proves that you don’t really need SP to win in this league! A high scoring offense and strong BP can do the job too.
The Phils have pretty decent SP.
Hamels (true ace)
Myers (good #2)
Moyer (solid)
Kendrick (also solid actually)
Also…..we don’t have a strong pen, and our offense is terribly overrated
Ok, we’ll sign Lohse and hope for a monumental collapse by everyone ahead of us.
sorry…. omar has had a terrible off-season, all you apologist keep saying ” its only november, its only december.” the gm and winter meeting have come and gone, and nothing. from suspect trades, to not bolstering a mediocre bullpen, to bragging and living off of john maine and oliver perez. he’s gotten at best a D-, and i maybe being too kind about.
“bragging and living off of john maine and oliver perez”
one of three possibilities
1) They’re going to trade either one or both
2) They like the rotation as is
3) They’re feigning rotation satisfaction to give up less in a trade
which is it?
I go for choice #2
How about choice #4 — those guys are pretty good!
I’m not saying they’re aces, but they are pretty good pitchers in their own right who are modestly prices, and I believe a lot of clubs would like to have them right now.
that would be choice #2
yeah, I guess it would! :-)
How about choice # 5- They’re feigning rotation satisfaction to keep the fans off their backs when they fail to upgrade…
Are you saying you aren’t happy with Maine and Perez?
Because I don’t see anything wrong with talking up two young, improving, inexepensive pitchers. Whether or not they upgrade (and I certainly agree they should) doesn’t change the fact that they should be proud of these two guys.
Are you saying you aren’t happy with Maine and Perez?
Because I don’t see anything wrong with talking up two young, improving, inexepensive pitchers. Whether or not they upgrade (and I certainly agree they should) doesn’t change the fact that they should be proud of these two guys
I’m not “proud” of any Mets, not after last season’s collapse. Sorry.
while they’re throwing away money on lohse, at least offer a one-year deal to akinori otsuka who will be under their control for 2009 too.
he was hurt last year, but is already throwing (was throwing in sept too). he’s worth a risk for a bullpen that needs help.
i’d also trade for nathan. he’s on the block. if you cn’t fix the rotation. create a lights-out bullpen
send reyes et al. and bring back nathan and santana
let’s finagle morneau away from them too.
Gomez/Martinez, Heilman, Pelfrey and Mulvey beat any other team’s offers…
I’d throw in Humber too.
id do that and if they want martinez that badly they pull mulvey or pelfrey out. heilman gomez martinez mulvey/pelfrey for santana. humber has the least value we keep him in AAA, and if we keep mulvey we put him in AAA or AA, and if we keep pelfrey we let him compete for a job on the staff (rotation or bullpen).
I doubt Santana is coming our way. I would hope they do something with Prior so when Hernandez breaks down again we have someone to put in there.