News: Mets sign RHP Wise

December 18, 2007 at 15:43 pm · 190 comments

by Matthew Cerrone

The Mets have signed free-agent RHP Matt Wise to a one-year contract.

Wise, 32, was 3-2 with one save and a 4.19 ERA in a career-high 56 games last year for the Brewers.

Mets GM Omar Minaya, on Wise…

“Matt has had success in a variety of roles. He adds a versatile arm to the bullpen.”

Since 2005, Wise has posted a 3.27 ERA against the NL East.

…if i recall correctly, he was on course for a dominant season, but fell apart in late July after hitting a batter in the head…after that, it’s like his wheels came off and he could not find the strike zone to save his life…hopefully this has worked itself out…

He had a 2.19 ERA in June.

He then hit Pedro Lopez in the head, had a 4.22 ERA in July, had a 7.71 ERA in August and had a 10.38 ERA in September.

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gomets2008 December 18, 2007 at 3:45 pm

Amen!!!!!

gomets2008 December 18, 2007 at 3:46 pm

I know he is no savior…but good to know we are trying to improve some aspect of the pitching staff instead of sitting still.

Vinnie December 18, 2007 at 3:48 pm

I wish you could see me dancing in my chair at work… A decent reliever is all I asked for.. finally something

mikey_FF December 18, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Sounds good … hopefully he’s not a headcase though.

metsrbest December 18, 2007 at 4:40 pm

Decent? I hope. But you know it’s like the Brewers replaced Wise with Mota. So I wouldn’t count on miracles. And is a 3.27 ERA really that good for a reliever?

metskelly December 18, 2007 at 5:27 pm

uhhh yea!

kowalski69 December 18, 2007 at 4:05 pm

SPLASH!

pochemunyet December 18, 2007 at 4:36 pm

Willie actually wanted Rick, but this was as close as Omar could come…

boredatwork December 18, 2007 at 4:47 pm

http://www.mlb.com/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20070725&content_id=2109697&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Here is the link —-> WATCH MATT WISE HIT LOPEZ IN THE FACE —> CLICK ON ” LOPEZ HIT BY PITCH”

Number41 December 18, 2007 at 4:50 pm

a wise move

terpz06 December 18, 2007 at 3:45 pm

this demands a full scale press conference!! only time will tell if this was a WISE move (i’m sure no one thought of this yet)

boredatwork December 18, 2007 at 3:54 pm

hahaha

Bench5urvivor December 18, 2007 at 3:47 pm

there goes that extra roster spot for flexibility… but i do like it

gomets2008 December 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm

If Gotay is in a deal 4 a top starter …it might open another slot….I mean we do have some versatile bench guys…Easley,Chavez,Anderson

Big Lou December 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm

New York’s 40-man now stands at 36.

ohboy December 18, 2007 at 3:48 pm

this tells me El Duque might be in the rotation

The Glider December 18, 2007 at 3:59 pm

. . . or Heilman?

Mister Koo December 18, 2007 at 4:08 pm

No, Omar clearly said on SNY that Heilman had absolutely no chance to be a starter.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm

yea

i think the “heilman = starter” ship has sailed. he’s relegated to giving up go ahead hr’s in the 8th, instead of never seeing the 8th as a starter.

toogr82b4got10 December 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm

Might? Omar already said he was going to be

ohboy December 18, 2007 at 4:53 pm

I think Omar has to say that. He has to temper the expectations of the fan. He does so by telling us he’ll be happy with Duque in our rotation, when you know he won’t be.

He might have said that Duque was going to be in the rotation, but I, personally, never believed it.

Wise can be a 7th inning guy or a long man and there’s not reason for 2 right handed long men…

Les Gomez December 18, 2007 at 3:48 pm

upgrade from Sosa………..

Achilles400 December 18, 2007 at 3:48 pm

What is Omar doing? Where’s the carving board?

Achilles400 December 18, 2007 at 3:51 pm

Frankly, at this point, I wish Omar would just come out and say there is really nothing worth doing, go on vacation, and get on with the 12-18 ST record.

ridethesnake December 18, 2007 at 4:08 pm

He just signed a quality reliever less than an hour ago who could slide into the 7th inning. A Heilman trade looks to be on the horizon to me.

anditsouttahere December 18, 2007 at 4:15 pm

i agree, especially if duaner comes back full force, which i am fairly optimistic he will, but who knows. then it looks like wise in the 7th, duaner the 8th, and then wagner of course. i just hope someone named johan is pitching the first 6.

ravi3 December 18, 2007 at 4:30 pm

He’d better be going the first 7….otherwise he wont break 200ip

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 4:30 pm

lets hope that guy named johan can go more than 6.

ridethesnake December 18, 2007 at 4:40 pm

does johan get dealt before XMas?

juunit December 18, 2007 at 5:15 pm

I would say ON Christmas would be nice. But that won’t happen because everyone will be on vacation because of the holiday. Unless the Wilpon’s do it themselves… so there is no chance at all.

throatneedle December 18, 2007 at 3:51 pm

yawn…..oye omar….a donde esta johan?

points guy December 18, 2007 at 3:56 pm

sounds like you’re willing to trade reyes & maine for johan. i bet you wish reyes pulls both his hamstrings this year just to prove you were right.

here’s 10 pts, go buy yourself a clue

throatneedle December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

WRONG! i’d trade anybody else we have in the minors plus heilman for him though. too bad that’s probably not going to do it but we can all still dream. as much as i can’t stand reyes’ showboating and jumping around in the dugout there’s no way i’d trade him for a 32 start pitcher no matter how great he is, so you my friend get

-100 + another -100 (for jumping to conclusions)

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:10 pm

I was just ‘needling’ your previous post.

relax bud, take that needle out of your throat.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:14 pm

lick my butt

throatneedle December 18, 2007 at 4:15 pm

needless ignorant sexual remark

-500

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:29 pm

needles negar of my post. am i the only one who is getting annoyed at the plus 10s and 500s after some1s comment? How about touche` or bad post? LOLZERS -1 billion for u

UpperDeck4Life December 18, 2007 at 5:19 pm

Maybe there is a sabermetric calculation for this. As for me, I believe it shows that the average age on Metsblog has drop significanlty since 2005.

ridethesnake December 18, 2007 at 5:20 pm

bad post

JarvisJanesAddiction December 18, 2007 at 5:25 pm

throatneedle……
It’s “Oye Omar, donde esta Johan?” Personally, I would add “carajo?!?!” at the end of that sentence! :)

Santa….please bring us Santana!!

njguy7676 December 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm

Wait a second…Omar did something right? Also, a 1 yr contract for a releiver???? Definitely call a press conference. Good signing Omar!

Constnza81V2.0 December 18, 2007 at 3:52 pm

This either frees Heilman for a trade or is good insurance if Duaner is not ready for ST.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 3:54 pm

Is duaner at 300 lbs yet?

gameball December 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm

Ha, I’ve been wondering the same thing!

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:02 pm

lol, he look like he was going that last spring

dk70 December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm

He was on a cab ride to get Dominican food when he hurt himself….He may look like Boomer by now…..

points guy December 18, 2007 at 3:53 pm

Yea, and Victor Zambrano was awesome in inter-league play.

Joe Bacci December 18, 2007 at 3:57 pm

you are officially the cowbell man of metsblog.

Joe Bacci December 18, 2007 at 3:58 pm

…and thats not a bad thing.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

does cowbell man get free chartered private jets rides?

then we’re talking!

Joe Bacci December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm

i bet i’d get a lot of points if he did ;)

mad_mike December 18, 2007 at 3:54 pm

We’ll take him.

recoton1 December 18, 2007 at 3:55 pm

This is just the splash that this team needed. I’m totally satisfied now with this depressing, miserable off-season. On the plus side, his 4.19ERA is considerable better than Brian Stokes’ 7.07ERA. It’s salsa-time baby.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm

+7

ridethesnake December 18, 2007 at 4:32 pm

what has been depressing or miserable about it other than the fans impatience? The FAs I want (and player I want in a trade) are still unsigned.

OrangeNBlueSince82 December 18, 2007 at 3:56 pm

Why is there a picture of Ben Sheets at the top of this post?

Joe Bacci December 18, 2007 at 4:16 pm

wishful thinking.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:32 pm

+2

gomets2008 December 18, 2007 at 3:56 pm

Are we bringing back Sosa?? If not and Duque is #5 , who is the long man?? Next signing will be Chacon, mark my words.

Slob December 18, 2007 at 3:57 pm

Wise move.

The Glider December 18, 2007 at 3:58 pm

I’ve always liked Wise having seen him pitch a few times. Nice pick-up. Hopefully, he has a nice year for us. Remember fellas, it’s the little moves which put you over the top.

By the way, I’ve assumed that Matt is the son of former Phillies and Cardinals pitcher Rick Wise. Actually, their pitching wind-ups are somewhat similar. Does anybody know if that’s true?

toomanyuniforms December 18, 2007 at 4:00 pm

Sounds like he needs to get his head together, but I wouldn’t mind if he put one behind Jimmy Rollins.

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:02 pm

amen. wish someone would shut him up just a little, even though i know he’s “always right” haha

toogr82b4got10 December 18, 2007 at 4:03 pm

I’d rather see one thrown AT Jimmy (talks a lot of junk) Rollins

gameball December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm

Maybe if beaning Pedro Feliz once spooked Wise, then beaning him again will get him right. (I keed, I keed.)

Vinnie December 18, 2007 at 4:58 pm

maybe we can have Wise bean firemetmanagement…

JarvisJanesAddiction December 18, 2007 at 5:28 pm

Forget behind…..put one in his eardrum!

firemetmanagement December 18, 2007 at 4:01 pm

Spend some $$ instead of picking up other teams’ discarded trash. AKA why didn’t we sign one of the 3 or 4 Japanese relievers on the market this year? Last I checked, Saito and Okajima are bigtime bullpen pitchers- and were obtained pretty cheaply and kind of “under the radar.” But Omar only wants second hand tr*sh like Matt Wise. Are we supposed to get excited over this? I guess this is how they will justify the 20% increase in tix prices.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:08 pm

Japanese pitchers? One race at a time, buddy. He’s just learning about white players.

crapple December 18, 2007 at 4:14 pm

+10

bigchart333 December 18, 2007 at 4:23 pm

is this name from “holy crip he’s a crapple!”
?

GuruMets December 18, 2007 at 4:22 pm

Nail meet Head!

Mets_Rangers 0087 December 18, 2007 at 4:30 pm

Someone fire firemetmanagement?

But then again, I wouldn’t enjoy the daily comic relief routine by him everyday on this blog.

juunit December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm

You do realize that signing a Japanese player would mean signing a completey unproven and unknown entity in the majors? We know they have been successful in Japan, but not in the U.S. We know Wise can pitch at least decently in the U.S. so why go for something that could turn out to be horrible? I hate the unlimited use of ignorant on here since it almost never truly applies but that sir, was an ignorant comment.

STUBZ December 18, 2007 at 4:03 pm

The only worthwhile transaction all offseason.

pezao December 18, 2007 at 5:23 pm

So you’re saying you’d like to have LoDuca and Milledge back?

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:03 pm

20% increase in ticket prices for matt wise.

aw, i’d pay any amount to head up and see the mets at shea. even if i have watch them get beat 13-0 by the pirates or something.

Joe Bacci December 18, 2007 at 4:55 pm

Golly gee whitakers tina, well isn’t that precious! What a loyal fan you are to not care what ticket prices cost!

I’m the opposite. I’d rather see the Mets take some proactive steps towards making baseball affordable for families again. Like the Padres have the section of the Outfield thats like 5 dollar admission to watch the game from the park area of the stadium. If they insist on raising prices after last season, please deliver us a winning product, so at least i’m not miserable as i watch the team on TV.

That said i do share your sentiment that no number of bonehead moves or disrespectful rate hikes for us, the fans, will keep me from loving the team.

juunit December 18, 2007 at 5:22 pm

There will be $5 seats at 36 of the 81 homegames. Probably the picnic area but still I suppose it fits the bill.

UpperDeck4Life December 18, 2007 at 5:27 pm

Mets had $5 and $10 tickets all season last year. There are specials in UR and the picnic area all the time. I bought so many blocks of tickets at 5 and 10 bucks that they tried to sell me a ticket plan.

Sethuel December 18, 2007 at 4:04 pm

Looks like a decent signing. Rates are all around league-average, which should be fine coming out of the pen. Looking at that picture though, his delivery looks very bizarre. He’s not quite throwing across his body, but that angle’s gotta put some strain on his elbow or shoulder.

Cactus December 18, 2007 at 4:06 pm

I thought they didn’t have roster spots available?

dk70 December 18, 2007 at 4:35 pm

delgado, castillo, reyes, wright, scheider, church, beltran, alou
endy, castro, marlon, gotay, easly
pedro, maine, perez, duque, pelfrey
wags, heilman, duaner, schow, feliciano, sosa, wise

Protes December 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm

I’m counting 26:

Pen-Wagner, Duaner (if healthy), Heilman, Feliciano, Schoenweis, Wise, Sosa (7)
SP-Pedro, Perez, Maine, El Duque, Pelfrey/Humber (5)
C-Schneider, Castro (2)
IF-Wright, Reyes, Castillo, Delgado, Gotay, Anderson, Easley (7)
OF-Alou, Beltran, Church, Endy, Gomez (5)

Gotay or Gomez gets sent down.

dk70 December 18, 2007 at 4:53 pm

I didn’t count Humber or Gomez as neither will start the season in the bigs. Unless Humber has an unbelievable ST, ala Brian Bannister

Les Gomez December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

does this mean they are going to raise the ticket prices again?

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:09 pm

+5

UpperDeck4Life December 18, 2007 at 5:28 pm

-10 for annoying posts

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

not awful, I could see him getting the 6th or 7th inning if willie uses him correctly.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:09 pm

Willie will find a way to overuse him.

Teacherhst December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

Holy Cow… I thought Omar was on vacation. Nice signing. Not the major splash we were looking for but it is good. So who is next?

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:10 pm

Say ‘aye’ if you didn’t know how Matt Wise was before today!

AYE!!!

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:11 pm

ayeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! lol

it sounds like a common name, but i really dont know much about the brewers anyway.

do i get points?

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:20 pm

+10

for being a girl who listens to the fan. god bless you.

jaxson December 18, 2007 at 4:33 pm

There are probably more girls who listen to the FAN then you know. And more on this blog.

Hello :)

hot stove chef December 18, 2007 at 5:02 pm

Wow, you’re pretty creepy

juunit December 18, 2007 at 5:24 pm

I can tell you they have something to do with beer.

NYMetz6986 December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm

i knew who he was but not how he was

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 4:14 pm

i think some posters have actually referenced him as a good pick up for the bullpen earlier on in this week/month

cousinrk December 18, 2007 at 4:10 pm

And if we bring back Buddy Harrelson and Tommy Herr as coaches we can do a Bud-Wise-(H)err skit at shea between innings. A guy can dream…

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm

+100

nicely played, my friend, nicely played.

Peter December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm

Bee-you-tea-full!

CaseStreet December 18, 2007 at 4:59 pm

LMAO!

firemetmanagement December 18, 2007 at 4:11 pm

Scary quote I found:

“Apparently the Brewers decided to acquire Mota and non-tender Wise because they liked Mota better than Wise”

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:15 pm

puhahahahahaha

whether the quote is true or not, the brewers in essence gave up estrada for a chance to replace matt wise with mota.

nice!!!!!!

+10

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm

scary if youre a brewers fan. as good as motas stuff is he could never get it together (naturally) here in NY. ill take wise over him any day.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:21 pm

i guess our thinking is, they gotta know something about wise that we don’t.

as for mota, his suckiness is plainly obvious.

thestache December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm

I really hope this isn’t true..but then on the other hand where did this mysterious quote come from fire?

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:34 pm

doesn’t really matter whether the quote is true or not, b/c that’s how it played out.

mad_mike December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Ouch let’s pray he’s no Mota

mrose December 18, 2007 at 4:40 pm

i also found this quote

“Mets signed RHP Matt Wise, who had been with the Brewers, to a one-year contract.

The Brewers liked Guillermo Mota better, so they traded for him last month and then non-tendered Wise last week. Our guess is that Wise is the more effective pitcher next season, and the Mets are probably getting him for less than half the $3.2 million Mota was due to make. He’ll work in middle relief.–Rotoworld

Good luck to Matt in New York. He certainly did not sign where he expects to be the main set-up guy or anything like that.”

at this blog :
http://albethke.blogspot.com/

See ‘firemetsmanagement’ this is called showing proof of things you write.

Also, stop being such a negative a$$ about everything…yes this isn’t hte splash you wanted, but its a good signing and more people than not will see that

gameball December 18, 2007 at 4:11 pm

I hope there’s not some hidden reason for his horrendous late-season numbers. Feliz didn’t miss any games in July, so Wise couldn’t have been spooked because he injured a player. It’s just a little strange.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm

He sucks.

That’s not so hidden is it?

NYMetz6986 December 18, 2007 at 4:14 pm

bc he didnt hit feliz…i think it was pedro lopez on the reds

NYMetz6986 December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=434601

look at the hit by pitch link on the right for the video

gameball December 18, 2007 at 4:54 pm

Ah, OK, thanks for that. Scary. Lopez didn’t play again for two months.

Wise’s career numbers don’t say “suck,” pointsguy. The second half represents a drastic and uncharacteristic meltdown, directly following the beaning.

It’s a good thing our pitching coach is such a renowned psychologist.

gameball December 18, 2007 at 4:57 pm

(only slightt sarcasm)

firemetmanagement December 18, 2007 at 4:11 pm

Courinrk:

Funniest post of the year!

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:15 pm

whoa, firemetmanagement said something positive!!!!

Peter December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm

No whammy’s

Big bucks

STOP!

You landed on Matt Wise.

We’ll wait 6 months to see if that’s a whammy or not.

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm

imagine if we could sign dotel to a 1 year contract, then we could easily include heilman in a package for a starter.

deggs December 18, 2007 at 4:12 pm

First Omar rang up the Register (Chuh CHING) and now he makes a Wise move!!!!

Peter December 18, 2007 at 4:13 pm

This is why I’m a Met fan.

No other fan base is as darkly punny . . .

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:17 pm

u forgot he was in the Church while he got em OH YEAH BRING IT BABY WOOOOHOOOOO KISS MY AZZ!

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:23 pm

ewww

he was in church.

jose--jose-jose-jose December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm

HAHA!!!!!

We are one sick, sick fanbase.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:35 pm

omar loves him, especially with Julio Franco watching…..

firemetmanagement December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm

Fire everyone.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:22 pm

there you go!!! back to normal!

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:18 pm

aww the guy on the fan said he thinks johan is going to the yanks.

that makes me sadddddddd.
:[

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:24 pm

if its fat chesta or his little slave dont listen jsut drone there disgusting voices out

Vinnie December 18, 2007 at 5:08 pm

it was john heyman.. but he said that if he had to guess out of the three teams (yankees,mets and sox) ut would be the skanks… He said that Hughes is an attractive piece and something like Cabrera and some other prospect should do it. he is pulling it out of him a$$…

juunit December 18, 2007 at 5:28 pm

Yeah realisticly none of them have a clue and are giving their opinions. So if you really believe John Heyman is a sports analytical genius or can predict the future then start grieving. If not, just sit back and laugh at his stupidity.

Wayneo December 18, 2007 at 4:26 pm

He goes into the crapper the second half of the season just like the Mets.

Nate W. December 18, 2007 at 4:26 pm

looks to me like the Mets have a full 25 man roster, with Pelfrey the only one on the team with options.

Gotay is the last bench man, and Register or Dauner is the last pen guy.

This rotation is going to be brutal, and if they trade Heilman in a deal for Santana the pen could be brutal…

MetsMachine December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm

Yaaaaaaaawn. These small trades are making me sleepy. Wake me up when we sign a high impact player.

Omar….get Johan. Get him…..or you will hear the boos rain down on Ryan Church misplaying balls in right field all year long.

Vinnie December 18, 2007 at 5:11 pm

It is a-holes like you that don’t care about the “small trades”.. Is every trade supposed to be huge? 25 Mega stars on the team.. Go across town… I bet you booed Beltran also before he 40 HR’s in ‘06..

sdanzig December 18, 2007 at 4:27 pm

It doesn’t look like he wasn’t even a Type B free agent. Is this true? The Brewers get nothing for him?

BringBackDaveTelgheder December 18, 2007 at 5:16 pm

He was non-tendered – no pick required for him.

bigchart333 December 18, 2007 at 4:28 pm

this by far, is the funniest thread i’ve EVER READ on mets blog…from bud wise herr to ew IN church, and FIREMETSMANAGEMENTS obligatory FIRE EVERYONE (for NO reason) i must say, it’s good to see people jokin around a bit…
even though it’s at the ineptness of Mets Management

nychurch111 December 18, 2007 at 4:31 pm

wait…… wasn’t he the one that couldn’t throw a strike against the mets that one game in milwaukee? he had thrown like 11 or 12 straight balls. in fact, i think he got pulled in the middle of an at-bat.

great….another guy that can’t throw strikes

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:33 pm

LOL! OMG, I kinda remember that. We sure know how to pick ‘em! I love the Mets.

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:36 pm

omg

i remember. no wait, that was billy wagner against the yankees.

no wait, it was john Maine in 6th inning of any game.

no wait, it was oliver perez when using the wrong arm angle.

no wait, it’s ALL OF THE ABOVE.

dun dun dun.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 4:42 pm

lick my butt mayn

bigchart333 December 18, 2007 at 4:38 pm

yeah but don’t u people read EVERYTHING that is posted on any baseball site anywhere?
NO relievers are consistent from year to year, nor is signing them past 1 year a good deal.
Ergo, expect Wise to be dominating next year. Or terrible in the first half, and unhittable in the 2nd. Or Terrible all year next year.

You know, because he’s a middle reliever and they couldnt possibly string 2 similar seasons back to back, could they?

Heilman, Linebrink, Stanton, Nelson, Gutierrez, etc,…they all don’t count. Obviously

points guy December 18, 2007 at 4:41 pm

oh damn, you used ‘ergo’

+8

bigchart333 December 18, 2007 at 4:43 pm

Good to see a “+” that ISNT a multiple of 5…i wanna see more “+37s” and “+12s” out there or even a “+Wally Backman” (6)

zen December 18, 2007 at 4:46 pm

is wise being paid with the 20% increase in tickets sales money or the citifield fan walk bricks money?

boredatwork December 18, 2007 at 4:47 pm
gowrightgo December 18, 2007 at 4:50 pm

Points guy has some good comments when he makes them. But seriously I think you have personally been responsible for degrading the comment section on this site.

The whole number rating thing is so tired already.

it might have been interesting when it started but now its just a shame.

I get to read someones idea on a trade then instead of comments being thought of and delivered….I get +10 or -500.

Sad actually….makes me long for the site when it was a little less populated but with guys who cared about the METS and had real value to add to the discourse.

I might be overreacting some but I think I speak for more than myself on this one

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:03 pm

+10

7train December 18, 2007 at 4:51 pm

Matt Wise! Matt Wise! I can hear the chant ringing through Shea.

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 4:59 pm

hells bells time haha

Cactus December 18, 2007 at 4:56 pm

7/31 Box Score

Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
M Wise 0.0 0 0 0 2 0 0 10-0 3.22

awesome outing

jose--jose-jose-jose December 18, 2007 at 5:11 pm

I remember that game. I know it was against the mets in Milwaukee, and if I’m not mistakin, it was the game that LoDuca hit that big homerun in the 9th off of Turnbow.

I remember the entire time saying that it wasn’t a “Wise” decision to bring that pitcher into the game. I’m glad I’ll be able to make that crack for an entire summer.

(ps. I really like the signing though)

jose--jose-jose-jose December 18, 2007 at 5:12 pm

Come to think of it, I might be wrong about that being the LoDuca game. whatever…

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:19 pm

i think it was the game when easley hit the inside the park homerun i cood be wrong

Go Bro December 18, 2007 at 4:57 pm

Good pick up by Omar. Hopefully, Peterson can straighten out his head and get him pitching inside again. Then we’ve got a real 7th inning guy. He obviously can pitch real well when his head is straight.

gowrightgo December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm

He is a good bullpen addition. Go back and look at his career stats on Yahoo or wherever you go to get them. He has had some pretty good years with the Brew Crew. THe second half of last year notwithstanding….this guy is going to help us

hsimms December 18, 2007 at 5:03 pm

A stronger bullpen than 2007 is a good move under any possible scenario.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:06 pm

it was a good bullpen, just way overused by willie

zen December 18, 2007 at 5:13 pm

yes. sele, schoeneweis, and mota are waiting for their induction into baseball’s hall of fame.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:17 pm

feliciano, smith, and wagner were GOLD JERYY GOLD! then willie overworked them and the starters died. Heilman was pretty consistent…. and sosa had a few good weeks from what i recall

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 5:18 pm

if clemens gets in, then why cant mota

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:20 pm

BTW sele might have a case for the hall

zen December 18, 2007 at 5:22 pm

not on the first ballot though. that would look bad for the kids.

gowrightgo December 18, 2007 at 5:27 pm

If we were ever able to get Sanchez healthy (a big if), we would be very well off right now in the pen.

Wags – closer
Heilman – 7th and 8th
Sanchez – 7th and 8th
Feliciano – 7th and loogy specialist
Wise – 6th and 7th
Joe Smith – Roogy and 6th and 7th with funk
Show – long man and spot 6th and 7th plus loogy

Register likely does not make it.
Sosa in AAA as a reserve
more help in Kunz and Muniz at AAA

Pen actually looks really solid with a healthy and formerly very good Sanchez.

Plus, a rotation right now of Pedro, Duque, Maine, OP and Pelfrey is not looking all that bad until the injury bug hits.

It would look a ton better if we could put Santana at the front.

hot stove chef December 18, 2007 at 5:05 pm

I have to say I’m really surprised that everyone is so happy about this signing. There’s been so much anti-omar sentiment this winter that I thought it would have taken nothing short Omar cloning Tom Seaver to fill out the rotation to satisfy you guys.

BringBackDaveTelgheder December 18, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Fantastic little signing. At worst he is no impact and we lose the cash we spent on him, at best he can become a pretty good setup man.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:08 pm

no, fantastic would be getting a frontline starter, this is a decent low risk move.

P.S. Another fantastic thing is defecating in the toilet and not having to wipe! :)

DaveKingman442 December 18, 2007 at 5:08 pm

He then hit Pedro Feliz in the head, had a 4.22 ERA in July, had a 7.71 ERA in August and had a 10.38 ERA in September.

Sounds like he will contribute down the stretch run..

BIG Freakin’ deal. Just what we need, another crappy arm to fall apart down the stretch…

hot stove chef December 18, 2007 at 5:10 pm

I knew it was too good to last.

TenTonHammer December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm

Since 2005, Wise has posted a 3.27 ERA against the NL East.

‘05 0.964 WHIP 6HR
‘06 1.331 WHIP 6HR
‘07 1.453 WHIP 6HR

That doesn’t suck.

VCarver December 18, 2007 at 5:25 pm

I’m neutral on the wise signing. But you can’t just point to the NL East splits and say he is good. The Mets still have to play teams in the other divisions as well as the AL.

At least the commitment isn’t much so that if he is bad, they are less likely to hang on to him through the season in the hope he’ll improve. That’s what they did with Mota.

boredatwork December 18, 2007 at 5:28 pm

its not bad for one year, if it does not work out, it just doesnt, thats it

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 5:11 pm

baby if you strip you can get a tip cos i like you just the way you are.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:13 pm

mary j blige?

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:14 pm

timberkand?

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 5:14 pm

its timbaland’s the way i are.
i just got it stuck in my head.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:16 pm

beter not be justin timbaland

tinathemetsgrl December 18, 2007 at 5:18 pm

haha i cant stand justin timberlake.
he tries too hard.
timbaland is the mastermind behind all his music anyway.

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:21 pm

whatever there names are, they both suck

Speed December 18, 2007 at 5:28 pm

I think the Bulllpen is all set.

6th matt wise
7th duaner sanchez
8th aaron heilman
9th billy wagner

loogy – pedro feliciano
roogy – jorge sosa
long man – scotte schoenweis

Do we have room for Register and J. Smith?

Hit The Weights Zeile December 18, 2007 at 4:07 pm

unless we somehow trade them all for julio franco and livan hernandez

dk70 December 18, 2007 at 4:29 pm

That and a sack of Taco Bell won’t buy us the NL Pennant this year……..We need to trade all of the prospect for Santana and Nathan…..

gowrightgo December 18, 2007 at 5:20 pm

Sorry if I came off too harsh or misplaced my disappointment. No doubt that the success of the site itself is the reason for the new crappy posters. The growth in users and lousy posters will eventually suffocate the best part of the site.

Posting is open to all. Just throwing out my criticism I guess of where the site is evolving to.

UpperDeck4Life December 18, 2007 at 5:22 pm

NEVER underestimate the power of Taco Bell!

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:25 pm

yeah doug melvin can…..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcmw0ufHoBo&feature=related

Kramer DirtyNezz December 18, 2007 at 5:26 pm

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