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According to the Associated Press, Matt Wise is able to make $1.2 million during his one-year contract with the Mets.
He will earn just $750,000 if he’s cut during spring training.
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just $750,000?
do we have to give up any draft picks because we signed him? =(
nope. he was non-tendered. So basically just risking some money.
Now do the same thing with Prior please (obviously though a bit more money!)
$750,000? I’ll take it.
i think this should cap off our outstanding offseason.
nah mets probably end up with either prior or colon…..
and that will be out outstanding offseason.
prior works for me. Colon, please stay far away.
I would totally take a flyer on prior, colon or garcia… in that order.
two guys that have been held back by injury and one guy who has been held back by the weight. Two things that can either be fixed or just not happen. Much better then signing a guy who just is not that good.
That’s what ROIDger Clemens made for each start last year. So this effectively boils down to a Wise for Mota trade and a slight decrease in payroll.
Even for the Mets, $2 million seems like a pretty decent haul in an exchange of two middle relievers.
‘just $750,000?’
I hate when Matt editorializes…just tell us it’s $750,000…let us decide if that is alot.
I think he was saying “just” in the sense that its less than the $1.2m he would make otherwise. I don’t think he was trying to say $750k isn’t a lot of money.
Oh..and I agree I don’t think there was any opinion here.
“I hate when Matt editorializes…just tell us it’s $750,000…let us decide if that is alot.”
You’re right…Matt really shouldn’t express his own opinion on his own blog.
“I hate when Matt editorializes…just tell us it’s $750,000…let us decide if that is alot.”
WE don’t decide if it’s a lot. The market does. Despite what a broad majority of Metsbloggers like to think, they don’t know Baseball as well as they imagine.
750k is nothing for a veteran moderately successful reliever. There’s no opinion about it.
i think I know baseball very well.
people are always telling me… “man, you really know baseball.” But then again, you probably know more about me then I do.
hahahaha seriously. that’d pay my tuition for like…25 years.
wait, only 15 years, clearly it should go toward math classes
good signing. As long as they are willing to eat the money, if he stinks it up, dump him.
That way they can see if Register say looks worth keeping and if Wise isn’t, you move on.
Or can always make a trade if they both look good.
it would be wise to use wise in the post starter before set up role. wiseguy eatin some wise potato chips. ohhhhhh yeah
I like it. The guy had a solid year a couple of seasons ago. He’s on the cheap. Relatively low risk, middle of the road reward.
the wilpons will only need to sell 1,898 citifield fan walk bricks with mets logo to pay for wise. not bad.
the proceeds from those bricks go to the Mets foundation, which distributes their money to local charities, but hey, its fun to say Freddie Coupons, isn’t it?
very funny, actually.
i know where the cash goes. to the wilpon’s personal charity, which allows them to deduct the proceeds from their taxes.
my tax dollars are going to provide the infrastructure of his stadium. maybe part of the 20% increase in tickets can go to pay for that.
capitalism is a b* tch, ain’t it? Either way, if you donate money, you can get a deduction as well. My problem with this whole situation is, fans have made baseball this successful, and now they’re complaining about the costs? If you’re going to be apathetic about it, don’t complain, but if you complain, do something about it, otherwise, what is the point? Just to hear yourself talk?
i’d hardly consider typing the # of brick needed to be sold is complaining. it’s humor. i don’t lose sleep over it, but i do enjoy poking fun at the wilpons and their 0 ws titles since doubleday (mr. doubleday that is) sold the team.
i wish winning world series titles were as easy as spending some money, or waiting for time to pass, or wanting it to happen, or whatever you so choose, but apparently it’s a pretty hard feat to come by. And yes, the Wilpon’s have spent money, and no, spending more wouldn’t have meant a world series, so at this point, I’m not sure what your point is.
my initial and only point was the number of citifield fan walk bricks with mets logo (only $395 each; great holiday gift, by the way just go to mets.com) it takes to sign players.
prices are as low as $195. buy them up mets fans. help a variety of charities and perhaps help to sign a few more players
http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ballpark/citifield_fanwalk_form.jsp
$165m from the city and nys for the infrastructure. the wilpons can sell 417,721 bricks with mets logo to re-pay tax payers
If I’m not mistaken, that money is NOT for the stadium itself. That money from the state/city is merely for upgrades to areas around the stadium. The Yankees are getting a similar haul. Yeah, the team from the Bronx which we all thought was willing to spend to win, but now we all know that a big reason for all that winning was ROIDS.
So the Wilpons still need to finance almost the entire stadium by themselves.
Keep in mind that many teams the last few years have gotten significant funding for their stadiums from their local governments. Not so the Mets. So next time fans want to break out the tired old lame cliche of Freddie Coupon, they should think again.
freddie coupon is quite cliche. that’s why i never use it. instead i created a uniquely humorous brick count.
have a sense of humor. i can assure you that the wilpons do fine w/o your valiant defense of their spending habits.
When some get a better sense of reality about the Wilpons and spending, perhaps I’ll get a better sense of humor. We all know baseball owners are not paupers. The issue is whether or not their teams as business entities are bringing in sufficient revenue to spend the way some fans expect them to.
$6.075b in revenue in 2007 according to selig
that’s $200m per team if it’s equally spread. of course the mets get a much, much bigger piece of the pie than that.
it’s a business. the wilpons are entitled to make a huge profit on their investment. i’m entitled to wish another individual or family owned the team.
mets value has increased $350m in the last 5 years including a 22% increase in value last year (a clear reason to raise ticket prices)
$217m in revenue last year with about $150m in payroll and operating costs.
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/33/07mlb_New-York-Mets_334564.html
mets had the 5th highest operating income +$24.4m
the yanks had the lowest losing -$25.2m
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/33/07mlb_The-Business-Of-Baseball_Income.html
Sure, you can wish anything you want. It’s Christmastime, after all. But it would be nice if you had a better sense of the economics so you’re not wising upon a star.
Do you know what constitutes those numbers from Selig? Do you really think the money is spreadevenly? It’s not. Due to revenue sharing. The more money the Mets make, the more they have to give back to MLB. It’s a big misconception that the growing revenues from sources like SNY goes all to the Mets.
As for valuation, that’s just on paper and an estimate by someone at Forbes. And you forgot to mention that the Mets have the highest debt/value ratio in the major leagues. So, what were you saying about all that profit?
OK, what’s wrong with this picture — Forbes lists the Mets revenue at $85 million less than the Yankees. Guess what? Their team payroll that year was about $85 million less. So they are plowing as much of their revenues back into the team proportionally as the Yankees are. Which totally undermines the idea that they aren’t spending as much.
Then Forbes says that even though the Mets have the highest debt ratio and, like the Yankees, had roughly $100 million left over from revenues after team payroll costs, their operating income was $50 million more? Hmmm … So where’s that revenue going on the Yankees side? Who’s pocketing the moolah there? Seems like maybe it’s Hank and Hal who are the ones who have been whopping it up and lining their pockets … big time.
And where do you think the money is coming from to pay for Citifield? Care to venture a guess?
But you can continue to believe what you want. Ignore the numbers and believe that the Wilpons are the ones lining their pockets off of the team. And maybe one day you’ll get your wish for a new owner. But be careful what you wish for — you may get someone like the Dolans.
The Wilpons are far from perfect. They have a lousy hiring record when it comes to GMs and other top baseball people. But they are far from cheap.
Ok. package up heilman with the original offer and get it done
Can we cut Delgado?
I feel your pain. I wish we could too. I’ve got this pit in my stomach that he will continue to swing (and miss) at mediocre fastballs up and in. My pessimistic prediction:
.249 BA; 82 RBIs; 21 HRs
can we trade delgado to the Giants because they have no offense what so ever and they are desperate?
I wouldn’t mind Delgado for Hennessey.
I would. Delgado, while not amazing last year:
A) had a terrific second half
B) contributed 87 RBI in the games that he played.
No first baseman available can replicate those numbers.
I agree that the hostility against Delgado is getting a little out of hand. A lot of it has to do with an ill-advised comment that wasn’t so terrible — just being candid, really, which is more than most athletes will give you.
I worry that his bat has slowed down for good, but I’m hoping that some professional pride and being in his walk year will produce a comeback season.
He was incredibly important to the Mets’ success in 2006.
hennessey would be fine in the pen.
and seriously, who cares about RBI. come on. it’s a worthless counting stat
Hey Acoustic567, it has NOTHING to do with his statement on the war, which many people (including myself) happen to agree with. This IS America and it’s our First Amendment right to criticize the government when it does stupid things. Look up your American History 101. I, for one, applaud him for him for his candor and conviction, and his willingness to do it on a public forum and take the heat for it. For that, he has my admiration. And if he was running for public office, I might even vote for him.
But, for now, he plays first base for the New York Mets and my concerns (and I’m sure that of most of our comrads here) are threefold:
1. His batting average;
2. His home runs; and
3. His runs batted in.
Our concern is the decline in his production from someone who is supposed to be our Big Thumper in the clean-up spot. He’s probably now our no. 6 hitter. And THAT’S the reason for the concern – nothing else.
One other thing:
“Don’t ever throw a slider to The Glider.”
– Ed “The Glider” Charles
Wrong statement – we’re talking about his “we’re so good we get bored statement”. Or, have you just tuned out the lowlights of the collapse?
Is that Delgado to the NY Giants? As tight end now that Shockey is out? He’s got the size to be a tight end, and good hands, so mybe the NY Giants would take him.
Delgado better be a good blocker otherwise forget it!
So Omar is doing something?
Lets see what else may be coming?
could we get matt cain for delgado
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If I go to spring training and get cut, can I make $750,000 too? Just wondering …
Can you throw strikes? Because if you can, you got yourself a pretty good job!
probably
Hey, he has a .286 career BA. Maybe he can spell Delgado at 1st?
delgaod will hit more than 25 hrs and more than 90 rbis next year. I know why he taking so much flak, but he shouldn’t be. he was on fire then he got hurt.
i agree, and while i realize we’re not going to have Delagdo of ‘03 or even of ‘06, he still can contribute in a big way. A lot of the problem last year was his injuries and not being able to build some momentum. Every time he got it going, he ended up missing time. If he’s fully healthy this year, I think we’ll see the Delgado that will have his streaks of carrying this team, and also the Delgado that will strike out a bunch. It won’t be consistent (or pretty) but I think he’ll still have his good to great stretches. The batting average will be down around .260-.270 but I could see him putting up close to 30 Hrs and 90 RBI’s, depending where he hits.
this is a smart signing. Instead of retarded 3-4 year deals for relievers, who are wildly inconsistent, Minaya gets a guy on an only one year commitment, for cheap money, and who has a reasonable shot to contribute. His ERA+s for 2005-2007 were 127, 118, 107. He’s been roughly as effective than both Octavio Dotel and Luiz Vizcaino, who either commanded or will command substantially more dough and years.
Obviously this can’t be it for the offseason, but this is a wise signing. Instead of Mota’s 74 ERA+, we get a guy who can actually pitch out of the pen. Good move for Minaya, and low risk.
anybody know what kind of draft pick well get for loduca?
LoDuca doesn’t get us a draft pick. He wasn’t offered arbitration. If he had been, he would likely have accepted. We do get the 18th pick from the Braves for Glavine.
I believe we get a sandwich pick for him as well as what ever team Green signs with. We also get a 1st rounder from Atl (Pick # 18) and a sandwich pick from them as well. Providing we dont sign any Type A players we should have two 1st round picks (#18 & #22) and 3 sandwich picks (#34, #43, ??)
Two things come to mind;
-Matt, you should have the draft order posted somewhere.
-With all of these draft picks… why the hesitation to trade some of our farm for Johan? I know there are no guarantees on draft day but at least we know a bunch will be replaced. Maybe place a little more emphasis on this years draft… spend a little extra on our scouting & signing the Draft Picks.
correction… No DP for LoDuca or Green… sorry
Hopefully well draft pitchers with our 1st 3 picks in the 2008 draft!
breaking news…. omar has convinced sid fernandez to make a come back as our new setup guy!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think this is a good thing get three or four guys like this and see what they do come spring
dont worry mets fans hopefully santana claus is coming to town
think big
As great as it would be to have Santana…I hardly think that signing Wise is correlated to bringing Johan here.
This doesn’t mean it won’t happen though.
There have been over 200 comments so far on the signing of Matt Wise. MATT WISE people!!!! How sad that something this little conjurs some much chit chat. Imagine if we got Santana. 20,000 posts. Hmmm, maybe.
Or there is a chance there aren’t many. The comments are coming from controversy or complaints. I don’t think anyone with a working brain would ever complain of having the best pitcher in baseball. How long has it been since the Mets could say they had the best pitcher in baseball?
Dwight Gooden? Wow, that seems like so long ago.
Yes its been a long time. I really have my hopes up that we get Santana. Do you guys think we really have a chance or will our hearts be broken?
I’d say it is about 50/50. I think that is where most contenders for him are. That statistic probably applies to him staying on the Twins until the beginning of the season.
Does anyone know of good pitchers that will become FAs during the year?
Bats included.
I think Omar is going about this pitching thing all wrong. If he signs Radaomski back to the club house then we will have all the pitching studs we want. Petite, Clemens!