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	<title>Comments on: News: Phillies No Longer Interested in Lohse</title>
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		<title>By: Head First</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69833</link>
		<dc:creator>Head First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we get fat Blanton, Livan, or Wells can we hire Fitness Celebrity John Basedow to get them back in shape?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we get fat Blanton, Livan, or Wells can we hire Fitness Celebrity John Basedow to get them back in shape?</p>
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		<title>By: Nate W.</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69826</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say that the Phillies would be better off with the supplimental pick and using a kid starter than signing Loshe.  

4 years and 40 mil for a guy that isnt even a type B free agent?  Loshe has be kidding right?

(If he insists on saying his name that way then thats the way I&#039;m going to spell it, just like Brett Farve... )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say that the Phillies would be better off with the supplimental pick and using a kid starter than signing Loshe.  </p>
<p>4 years and 40 mil for a guy that isnt even a type B free agent?  Loshe has be kidding right?</p>
<p>(If he insists on saying his name that way then thats the way I&#8217;m going to spell it, just like Brett Farve&#8230; )</p>
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		<title>By: Nate W.</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69809</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, one of the biggest keys to 2008 will be whether or not Maine and/or Perez can make the jump from being a developing #3 starter who can make 27-30 starter, up to a solid #2 who can make 33-35 starts.  If they can do that and not wear down like last season (recall that Perez got a DL break because of his &#039;tired&#039; back just like Duque does) then the Mets lack of an ace will be ok.  If they dupilicant last years IP then it will be a rough and haggard rotation and bullpen by Sept 1st yet again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, one of the biggest keys to 2008 will be whether or not Maine and/or Perez can make the jump from being a developing #3 starter who can make 27-30 starter, up to a solid #2 who can make 33-35 starts.  If they can do that and not wear down like last season (recall that Perez got a DL break because of his &#8216;tired&#8217; back just like Duque does) then the Mets lack of an ace will be ok.  If they dupilicant last years IP then it will be a rough and haggard rotation and bullpen by Sept 1st yet again.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate W.</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69799</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Mets arent near 120 mil yet.  

The 14 signed contracts on the books are in the 95-99 mil range.  

Oliver Perez and Jorge Sosa may get a decent payday through arbitration, even with thier awful 2006 numbers, but the rest of the Mets younger arbitration players are likely to get somewhere less than 1.5 mil, and a number of them will be renewed at around 0.4 mil.  

This would put them somewhere in the 110-115 range, with room to spare to sign a starter or two to a deal.  

My guess would be that the Mets are currently trying to save room to pay Santana 20m/y while still financing a stadium out of the profits of the organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mets arent near 120 mil yet.  </p>
<p>The 14 signed contracts on the books are in the 95-99 mil range.  </p>
<p>Oliver Perez and Jorge Sosa may get a decent payday through arbitration, even with thier awful 2006 numbers, but the rest of the Mets younger arbitration players are likely to get somewhere less than 1.5 mil, and a number of them will be renewed at around 0.4 mil.  </p>
<p>This would put them somewhere in the 110-115 range, with room to spare to sign a starter or two to a deal.  </p>
<p>My guess would be that the Mets are currently trying to save room to pay Santana 20m/y while still financing a stadium out of the profits of the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: keithc</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he also saw his workload nearly double- he threw 140 innings in 2006, with 90 of those in the majors.  This season, 191 innings in the majors.  He&#039;ll build on the improvements he made to his stamina this season, and most importantly, his focus should improve-- as we saw from his last starts in 2006 and 2007, he can always reach back and pull something together for a &quot;must-win&quot; game; it&#039;s a matter, for him, of pitching well in games when the Mets&#039; backs aren&#039;t against the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he also saw his workload nearly double- he threw 140 innings in 2006, with 90 of those in the majors.  This season, 191 innings in the majors.  He&#8217;ll build on the improvements he made to his stamina this season, and most importantly, his focus should improve&#8211; as we saw from his last starts in 2006 and 2007, he can always reach back and pull something together for a &#8220;must-win&#8221; game; it&#8217;s a matter, for him, of pitching well in games when the Mets&#8217; backs aren&#8217;t against the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: toropoet</title>
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		<dc:creator>toropoet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi? Now there&#039;s a trade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about Nolan Ryan for Jim Fregosi? Now there&#8217;s a trade!</p>
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		<title>By: napes22</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69551</link>
		<dc:creator>napes22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blanton is not that good.  His BAA two years back was over 300, and last year it wasnt too low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blanton is not that good.  His BAA two years back was over 300, and last year it wasnt too low.</p>
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		<title>By: napes22</title>
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		<dc:creator>napes22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about - Maine looked exhausted down the stretch for the last two seasons.  Last year he he saw his ERA rise nearly 2 points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about &#8211; Maine looked exhausted down the stretch for the last two seasons.  Last year he he saw his ERA rise nearly 2 points.</p>
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		<title>By: napes22</title>
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		<dc:creator>napes22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooklyn Cyclones?  Wait no, we want to make sure our youngens get innings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooklyn Cyclones?  Wait no, we want to make sure our youngens get innings.</p>
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		<title>By: dk70</title>
		<link>http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/20/news-phillies-no-longer-interested-in-lohse/#comment-69535</link>
		<dc:creator>dk70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Victor Zambrano would get 3 years // 21 million in this market. 4/40 for a real pitcher. Santana, if he signs with the Yankee&#039;s is going to get 6 years / 180 million....Ridiculous, but true</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Victor Zambrano would get 3 years // 21 million in this market. 4/40 for a real pitcher. Santana, if he signs with the Yankee&#8217;s is going to get 6 years / 180 million&#8230;.Ridiculous, but true</p>
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