Comments on: eMailbag: What’s up with Santana Talks http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 06:15:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Atomoxetine hci. http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-256286 Atomoxetine hci. Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:33:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-256286 <strong>Atomoxetine hydrochloride....</strong> Eli lilly atomoxetine hci.... Atomoxetine hydrochloride….

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]]> By: BiggieSmalls http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72182 BiggieSmalls Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:52:36 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72182 I guess I value Guerra more highly than you do. But if you look at any of the prospect rating services Deolis Guerra is usually ranked as the second best prospect in the Mets System behind Fernando. Fernando got most of the pub when he signed but Deolis was signed at the same time and is a monster in the making. I wouldnt under any circumstances like to see him get traded -- even for Santana . The thing about this Santana situation is obviously you have to pay 140+ mil for over 6 years and give up big time pieces. If the pieces are replaceable or not significant to the long term future of the franchise than you do it. Fernando & Guerra are the type of prospects you just say no to. Gomez is blocked by Beltran at his best position and is replaceable by Martinez. Heilman is a key chip to move this year and Mulvey/Smith etc are replaceable from within. So it makes it palatable. I dont think realistically Omar is worried about his job security. He has the trust of the Wilpons which doesnt come easily. Lowrie is a nice prospect but there are at least 10 shortstop prospects that are rated higher than him.. And some say his best position may be second base As for Lester, Im not sure what the Red Sox Nation thinks about him but Im sure they swoon over Buchholz more after his no hitter. Goes to show there are plenty of matches to get a three way done. I guess I value Guerra more highly than you do.

But if you look at any of the prospect rating services Deolis Guerra is usually ranked as the second best prospect in the Mets System behind Fernando. Fernando got most of the pub when he signed but Deolis was signed at the same time and is a monster in the making.

I wouldnt under any circumstances like to see him get traded — even for Santana .

The thing about this Santana situation is obviously you have to pay 140+ mil for over 6 years and give up big time pieces. If the pieces are replaceable or not significant to the long term future of the franchise than you do it. Fernando & Guerra are the type of prospects you just say no to.

Gomez is blocked by Beltran at his best position and is replaceable by Martinez. Heilman is a key chip to move this year and Mulvey/Smith etc are replaceable from within. So it makes it palatable.

I dont think realistically Omar is worried about his job security. He has the trust of the Wilpons which doesnt come easily.

Lowrie is a nice prospect but there are at least 10 shortstop prospects that are rated higher than him.. And some say his best position may be second base

As for Lester, Im not sure what the Red Sox Nation thinks about him but Im sure they swoon over Buchholz more after his no hitter.

Goes to show there are plenty of matches to get a three way done.

]]> By: VCarver http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72173 VCarver Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:25:34 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72173 How do you reconcile "full metal jacket courtship" with what was essentially nothing? From all indications, not a team bid on A-Rod. And it's not as if no one knew what he was asking for before he opted out. Everyone knew. Boras had bandied about figures of $32M/year or thereabouts. At the very least, Klapisch was guilty of extreme exaggeration. And I wouldn't get on him if it were not for the fact he's made lots of errors like this before as well as factual errors in the past. In talking about a certain Met pitcher, he once said he was coming off of surgery. I'm pretty sure it was Zambrano during the winter after his first season with the Mets. Well he hadn't had surgery at that point; they had just shut him down early. Maybe I pick on Klapisch because he's also anti-Met. So the errors stick in my mind and I tend to bash him more. He's not the only NY journalist with a spotty record for accuracy, but he's notable. Bottom line is that I believe Cerrone's credibility is fairly high and I have more faith in what he says than klapisch and some other area journalists. How do you reconcile “full metal jacket courtship” with what was essentially nothing? From all indications, not a team bid on A-Rod. And it’s not as if no one knew what he was asking for before he opted out. Everyone knew. Boras had bandied about figures of $32M/year or thereabouts.

At the very least, Klapisch was guilty of extreme exaggeration. And I wouldn’t get on him if it were not for the fact he’s made lots of errors like this before as well as factual errors in the past. In talking about a certain Met pitcher, he once said he was coming off of surgery. I’m pretty sure it was Zambrano during the winter after his first season with the Mets. Well he hadn’t had surgery at that point; they had just shut him down early. Maybe I pick on Klapisch because he’s also anti-Met. So the errors stick in my mind and I tend to bash him more. He’s not the only NY journalist with a spotty record for accuracy, but he’s notable.

Bottom line is that I believe Cerrone’s credibility is fairly high and I have more faith in what he says than klapisch and some other area journalists.

]]> By: Chris http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72165 Chris Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:09:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72165 My fault, I see someone linked to the article up above. My fault, I see someone linked to the article up above.

]]> By: Chris http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72163 Chris Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:05:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72163 http://nc.startribune.com/blogs/neal/ This blog was posted by La Velle E. Neal III on Dec 26th. He is stating the Mets and Twins (along with Yankees, and Sox) were in contact before the Holiday. He seems to think the Mets still have a good chance to land Santana. Maybe I'm just holding out hope that this will happen to ease the pain of such a terrible off-season. On the other hand, should we not get Johan, I am content to roll out opening day with our current starters. Pedro, Maine, Perez, Pelfrey, (and squeeze Heilman in there). It would also not bother me in the least to keep Gomez and Martinez, Church and Alou are not the answers in RF and LF and Beltran isn't getting any younger. Next season there will be plenty of free agent pitching out on the market (barring any midseason resignings) that we can snag someone then. Just my unvarnished opinion.... http://nc.startribune.com/blogs/neal/
This blog was posted by La Velle E. Neal III on Dec 26th.
He is stating the Mets and Twins (along with Yankees, and Sox) were in contact before the Holiday. He seems to think the Mets still have a good chance to land Santana. Maybe I’m just holding out hope that this will happen to ease the pain of such a terrible off-season. On the other hand, should we not get Johan, I am content to roll out opening day with our current starters. Pedro, Maine, Perez, Pelfrey, (and squeeze Heilman in there). It would also not bother me in the least to keep Gomez and Martinez, Church and Alou are not the answers in RF and LF and Beltran isn’t getting any younger. Next season there will be plenty of free agent pitching out on the market (barring any midseason resignings) that we can snag someone then. Just my unvarnished opinion….

]]> By: Go Bro http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72159 Go Bro Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:39:55 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72159 Whoa!! Went to bed too early last night. Glad to see the posts and the article in the Minn Star Trib from yesterday. Thanks. Hope springs eternal. Whoa!! Went to bed too early last night. Glad to see the posts and the article in the Minn Star Trib from yesterday. Thanks. Hope springs eternal.

]]> By: mad_mike http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72156 mad_mike Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:24:24 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72156 Good story thanks for posting. Let's hope the Mets are getting back into the sweepstakes! Good story thanks for posting. Let’s hope the Mets are getting back into the sweepstakes!

]]> By: Gland http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72155 Gland Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:20:43 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72155 LOL. Very true. I think this blog is ok (I obviously don't agree with many of Matt's techniques), but wow people here sure LOVE it! And Matt! That's what's awesome about the internet. There is something for everone! Lets go Mets. LOL. Very true. I think this blog is ok (I obviously don’t agree with many of Matt’s techniques), but wow people here sure LOVE it! And Matt!

That’s what’s awesome about the internet. There is something for everone!

Lets go Mets.

]]> By: 1DoggLJ http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72127 1DoggLJ Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:59:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72127 "In Matt AND Omar I trust. It was a vast wasteland for Mets fans before both of them arrived on the scene." Relax. It was a vast wasteland for Met fans in 1969? In 1986? We get it, you like Matt. Lets not get crazy. The franchise will carry on without Omar and believe it or not, this blog. “In Matt AND Omar I trust. It was a vast wasteland for Mets fans before both of them arrived on the scene.”

Relax. It was a vast wasteland for Met fans in 1969? In 1986? We get it, you like Matt. Lets not get crazy. The franchise will carry on without Omar and believe it or not, this blog.

]]> By: m00kie http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72126 m00kie Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:48:29 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2007/12/26/emailbag-whats-up-with-santana-talks/#comment-72126 I guess my disdain for the major media is obvious, and my distrust of sports reporters is probably a hang over from my larger distrust of the major media outlets at large. I definitely respect guys like delcos, gammons, eddie c, sweeney, etc, but I think many of the columnists (rosenthal comes to mind) are cocky and irritating, and spew more conjecture and hearsay than facts. I'm a programmer and a musician, as far away from a journalist as you can get, but I do have faith (maybe too much sometimes) in the new media and it's self-correcting ability, and Matt's shown nothing but integrity, and is presenting these posts as is, as a blog, where we can grouse all day long, and as such, I take his word for what it is... I guess my disdain for the major media is obvious, and my distrust of sports reporters is probably a hang over from my larger distrust of the major media outlets at large. I definitely respect guys like delcos, gammons, eddie c, sweeney, etc, but I think many of the columnists (rosenthal comes to mind) are cocky and irritating, and spew more conjecture and hearsay than facts.

I’m a programmer and a musician, as far away from a journalist as you can get, but I do have faith (maybe too much sometimes) in the new media and it’s self-correcting ability, and Matt’s shown nothing but integrity, and is presenting these posts as is, as a blog, where we can grouse all day long, and as such, I take his word for what it is…

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