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Mets C Ramon Castro is featured as the back-up catcher 
on this year’s Team 2007 by USA Today’s Sports Weekly, which aims to select the best player at every position, including manager, while only spending the median major league payroll of $84.6 million.
USA Today found a creative way to include Alex Rodriguez, and his $23 million price tag, but notes, “It’s difficult to ignore David Wright, who for $1.2 million hit .325 with 30 homers and 107 RBI.”
Team 2007 also includes Chase Utley starting at second base, Jimmy Rollins at short and Heath Bell in a set-up roll.
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I think I would go with Wright with his salary of $1.2 million to Arod’s $23 million.
Wright was .325/30/107/34 Gold Glove
Arod was .314/54/156/24
I am not saying Wright is better than Arod but for the $22 million difference I would go with Wright
Wright’s gonna make some serious bank if ever gets to free agency.
Is this guy joking? With salary considerations, Arod over Wright? He’s gotta be kidding right?
Let’s just hope that doesn’t ever happen
USA Today is a rag. Who cares what they print (except for the sports odds).
The picked Jimmy Rollins over Hanley Ramirez despite Ramirez being better and cheaper.
i still think reyes is going to have the best career
You see, that’s what I’ve been talking about. Everyone (including a lot of naive Mets fans) think/assume that the Mets have this big time gargantuan payroll. But this is just not true. As this article states, the median MLB payroll is 84.6 million- and the Mets are only currently about 20 million over that. This is simply not acceptable, especially when the Red Sox and Yankees have payrolls of ~150 million and 200 million, respectively. The Mets having a payroll of 105 million is simply not enough, especially with the record crowds they are drawing, a cashcow TV network, new stadium coming, 20 million annually in naming rights, and the fact that ticket prices have been raised 20% AGAIN this year, with similar increases the past 2 or 3 years. This team has pretty much lost me with the collapse that they had, sandwiched by 2 consecutive offseasons of dormancy, penny pinching, and making questionable/bad moves (trading Milledge for very little, trading Bell/Owens/Lindstrom/Bannister for complete garbage, etc.) This team needs to do something big to win me and other once dedicated fans back- as is stands now, this team will not get one red cent from me this year. As I see it, getting Santana or Bedard (and not getting cheap w/ regard to their extensions, which might be a roadblock to Santana right now) would be the only way to do this. They could have also done this by overpaying for Prior, or even something as simple as signing one of the good (and affordable) Japanese relievers that were out there…or signing a hard nose guy like Rowand or taking a chance on Fukudome instead of trotting a $380,000 4th OFer like Ryan Church out there. But they’ve done absolutely nothing except overpay for Castillo, who get a 4 year contract with bad knees. Not that I wanted Eckstein- but all we heard was that he was going to get a 4 year, 35 million dollar deal and that’s why we had to overpay for Castillo. Eckstein proceeded to sign a 1 year deal for 4.5 million- how incompetent does that show Minaya to be, in terms of gauging the market? Also, he said that LoDuca wanted a 3-4 year deal and that’s why he got Estrada (and dumped him just to cut payroll- very sneaky) and then got Schneider. LoDuca also signed a 1 year deal. This team is just lost, and the collapse combined with keeping the lousy manager and doing NOTHING (combined with some bad trades) the past 2 offseasons has really sucked the life out of me. I mean, when was the last time this team made a big splash..the last time they made a move where they spend significant money and/or got us excited? The last time was over 2 years ago now- when they got Wagner. This is just depressing, and there is no reason why this team can’t have a payroll in the 130-140 million range. Unacceptable.
He lives!
Actually, lots of good points.
Open the purse-strings, Wilponderspendingnothing.
What’s your source for your stats? I’ve got stats showing that you’re understating the Mets payroll $10mm.
According to http://www.mlbcontracts.blogspot.com, in 2007 the 25-man roster payrolls for the top 5 spending teams were:
Yankees – $189,639,045
Red Sox – $143,026,214
Mets – $115,231,663
Angels – $109,251,333
Dodgers – $108,454,524
If you compare the Mets to the league average, they are spending about 140% of the average payroll.
Even if you back out the extremely cheap teams and their counterparts at the “big spender” end of things, the Mets still compare favorably. If the average payroll of 30 teams is $84.6mm, then the approximate total of all payrolls is $2,538mm. If you take out the Yankees (#1), and Rays (#30 – at $24,123,500), and take the average of the other 28 teams, you get an average of $83mm. If you take out the Red Sox (#2) and Marlins (#29 – $30,507,000), it lowers the average to $82.72mm. Even if you just take out the Rays & Marlins, the average of the “top 28″ spenders is $88.7mm — the Mets spend 130% of that.
Then, factor in the raises for Wright, Reyes, Beltran, etc., and this year’s payroll is MUCH higher than $115mm.
Actually this years payroll is looking like it will be right around the 115 to 120 range again. Unless they somehow get Santana and give him 20 mil there just isnt any way that the arbitration and ‘zero to three’ players will bump the payroll up from its current ~95 mil to more than 120 mil.
That is the stance that I took when I left that ballpark on the last day of the season, and that is the same stance that I take today.
I won’t go back to that place until they get an ACE!
Ok FMM. A few things.
The Mets have the 3rd highest payroll, which is only going to be higher because we have Perez, Maine, Wright, and Reyes for pretty cheap. And that is most of our core.
Apparently you didn’t see. We tried to make a “ludicrous” deal with Prior and it didn’t work out for several reasons. The guy’s family is close to San Diego and they’ve got a nice park to rebuild value.
You are tripping on your own by criticizing Minaya for overpaying for Castillo. It goes against everything you stand for, your “let’s waive money to get everyone we want” strategy. I remember Matt or Tim saying something about David Eckstein’s market went down so he had to sign for what he could get. As for Lo Duca, Matt has said that the team just didn’t want Lo Duca. Old catchers in decline don’t typically hit too well.
Can you please stop talking like money is the answer to everything? What are you going to use that money on to improve the team? Prior declined the money to go to San Diego. Glavine declined the money for the Braves. I believe these Japanese pitchers prefer the west coast(read it somewhere, look up and tell me otherwise if I’m wrong), and maybe after the boos Matsui got, either the Mets don’t want them or the Japanese players don’t want us.
One more thing, money is one of the worst ways to judge how good someone is. In fact, Maine and Perez are both earning what Church is earning – $380,000. And you know what? You’re right. We need a higher payroll. But I don’t agree necessarily with paying someone like Kyle Lohse money, so let’s just up Maine and Perez’s salary by 30m each per year, so we can have the highest payroll.
Please see this. :)
Ha ha I made that last post without even reading the comments that you schills made about me above. Good to see you’re thinking about me- I guess I’m pretty famous. Just keep sitting there and waiting with baited breath for my posts…it feeds my ego.
I guess you are the Mets version of Jerome from Manhattan
Congratulations
except FMM isn’t overreacting.
I really didn’t realize that the Mets payroll was under 50% of the Skanks. How does that make sense? Is our viewership/attendance under 50% of the Skanks?
Viewership probably not. Attendance no. But I’d be willing to bet our merchandising is less than a quarter what the Yankees is.
I’d be willing to bet our merchandising is less than a quarter what the Yankees is.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t MLB merch divided evenly between the teams?
Am I the only one who thinks having a ~100 million dollar payroll is just not enough for a so-called “big market team” with soaring revenues? ….When the median payroll is 84.6 million??? But hey if you people are happy to open up your wallets and continue to get raped by Freddie Coupons for an unexciting, unimproved product, a product that is basically the same as the 2007 chokers minus a few fiery guys in LoDuca, Milledge….with the same incompetent, dispassionate manager and incompetent GM…. well, go ahead and be my guest….it’s not my money.
apart from a couple pitchers…who choked in 2007?
anybody wanna check the mets record /pay roll for the 3 years Before Minaya and the 3 years since Minaya..
Before Minaya
2002- 75-86 102 mil
2003- 66-95 116mil
2004- 71-91 96 mil
After Minaya
2005-83-79 101 mil
2006-97-65 101 mil
2007-88-74 115 mil
one bad year and u wanna fire Omar ?
in the past 17 years, the mets have finished over .500 8 times…out of those , Omar has the last 3 of those seasons
great point. The difference between 06 and 07 was delgado. We had the same mediocre pitching, but delgado was insane in 06. He carried the team. In 07 Delgado was
“fist-pumping and offensively slumping” as walt fraizier would say
dude,
we’ve talked about the spending cycle of greedy coupon.
pedro came here b/c of the 4th year and beltran came here b/c we blew him away with cash.
of course castro is the best back-up if he could make it through a hole season w/out being on the DL he’d start. Nothing against him but hes more effective on the bench and i wouldnt obbject to signing a guy to be somewat of a 3rd catcher that could also take away someone LHPing at bats from delgato while playing first base as well. Now that green is in all likelyhood gone….. whos gunna play first wen degato is hurt or resting w/out being seriously out of postition??
i bet marlon and easily both take alot of time at 1b this spring training. I bet Marlon can pull it off.
However, Delgado needs to step it up this season.
Sounds like you want a Mike Jacobs back!
I have been harping for a while (at least since they got Church) that they need a power hitting RH corner OF/1B bat to share time with Church and Delgado. I just don’t see Easley as that guy.
Nady would be suitable, but of the options available, Mench seems to be the best (only?) one, unless they want to take a shot with a rookie like Harper (Mench would be a much better idea).
There is no reason we shouldn’t be spending as much as the Red Sox (140-150 million). We have a tv network (cashcow) and a new stadium coming, which I think outweighs all of the extra merchandising they are doing. Plus their park only holds 32,000 and we draw 40,000 per game on average. No reason we can’t have at least same payroll- just no reason for it….but that is just the difference between John Henry and Freddie Coupons.
This is a semi-interesting attempt at putting together a team based on a sceme, but its hugely flawwed. In order to get all these guys with $-Rod and stay at the average salary that would have to be one hell of a farm system to draft and develop the 15 best prospects in baseball all at the same time.
Fielder, Granderson, and the 10 best ‘zero to three’ pitchers he could think of… rather foolish to think thats at all realistic.
Jay Horwitz had him killed.
he’ll be back.
Once again the voice of the people is whacked.
SNY made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
fmm, you CANNOT be bought. Keep bringing it, dude.
hahaha
too funny.
how about delgado? how about everyone except wright.
the ballpen was overused because the starting pitchers went 2 innings on average
they were all to blame for the collapse, not instrumental, but definitely contributed
As Kramer says, that’s 2007. happy new year! It’s 2008 check the numbers again.
finally some logical reasoning all the fans that always need to make the playoffs in the current year and dont think about the future is why the gm’s end up trading prospects away to win now (see victor zambrano) if people would lay off the gm for a year or two and allow these prospects to develop in our system would could actually create a team that makes the playoffs more than 2 lousy years in a row. How is it minaya’s fault that randolph and the players decided to fall apart and throw away the division last year. People forget all the good signings and trades he has made. Trading for delgado for a bunch of junk. Even with the terrible year delgado had he beat the heck out of what mike jacobs accomplished. He also brought in endy chavez who has been one of the most consistent players on the team and castillo who was one of the few players not in a slump at the end of last year. Minaya may have missed out on a few deals but look at zito. the giants paid huge amounts of money for him and he did ridiculously worse than maine or perez who we are paying nothing. Give the guy a chance