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During his appearance on WFAN today, SI.com’s Jon Heyman said that the Twins know they must trade Johan Santana, and the ‘general sense around baseball’ is that they will.
According to Heyman, the Yankees and Mets are most interested in Santana, but Yankees GM Brian Cashman does not want to make a move.
The Mets, however, notes Heyman, are very serious - so much so that ‘some Mets people’ believe they have made the ‘best offer so 
far,’ i.e., ‘any four of their prospects.’
…first off, this would suggest that i should zip it when i say, ‘Omar, pull the trigger,’ because, from what heyman is saying, it’s not a matter of omar pulling a trigger, it’s about the Twins pulling a trigger…
…that said, i had written something similar to heyman’s comments last week, noting how people connected to the Mets seemed ‘very optimistic,’ but that people connected to santana continued to see boston as a favorite…that disconnect, as a Mets fan, has always been alarming to me…i’m glad that at least heyman is hearing a similar sense of positivity, not that it makes me any more or less confident in santana ending up in queens…
Heyman also discussed his Hall of Fame votes, the Nick Swisher trade, the future of Roger Clemens and the relationship between Scott Boras and Alex Rodriguez.
To listen to Heyman’s full interview, go to WFAN.com.
They are saying that the trade could happen within the next week…if it does, you are going to need to find some new filler material, Cerrone! Still a few weeks till P’s and C’s
Seriously. Want Johan more than any other player in MLB, but 3-5 posts daily about who said what in regards to when are starting to get ridiculous. There is such a thing as over-reporting something. I think at this point we all have a pretty good feel for whats happened and what its gonna take to bring him here. I dont need to know if Peter Gammons took a dump next to someone that looked like Santana in a public urinal. If there is legitimatly a news break, then ABSOLUTLEY
I’m not complaining about it at all..I’m glad that Matt is able to provide us with ALL the detail regarding Johan, that way it is easier to get an accurate picture of what is going on. Its been a really slow off-season that Santana non-news has dominated the board…I mean nothing else is going on that would be of even remote interest to the Met fan
Ok, but where’s the line between reporting on something, and simply regurgitating every tidbit on the net from every possible source. Of course I want ‘Mets News’, thats why Im on here in January. But I also want the news to have some basis in fact. Matt does a fantastic job with this site. At least on this topic I think he should use a filter for what to and what not to post as “fact”. In a nutshell, a month of nothing but pure speculation is starting to wear on me. One day were getting him, the next his on the Sox and the next the Twins arent gonna trade him at all. Just cant take it anymore. Wake me up when its over…
Give me a break. It’s like you’re going to Starbuck’s every morning, spitting the coffee out on the sidewalk and complaining about how horrible it is, then showing up the next morning for the same cup. Don’t like the product? Don’t buy.
None of this is sold as “fact” — it’s inside scoop, rumor, speculation, etc., and it’s very obviously so.
Additionally, any of the entertaining off-season speculation has to begin and end with Santana because this flirtation is a bottleneck in the off-season plans. Anything we do or don’t do depends on whether or not this guy is available, and at what cost. Hence, a daily update makes sense.
Moving along to the substance, “any four” means one more “A” prospect than I’d like, and even I start to balk. Think about it — they probably take F-Mart, Gomez, Guerra and Mulvey. Youch. I agree with dannyb — I don’t like giving up both F-Mart and Gomez in the same deal, over the same off-season during which we lost Milledge. I figured we’d get to enjoy at least one of those guys build a career at Shea.
If you’ve been reading Matt’s posts carefully, you would know he is not merely regurgitating what’s on the net. He’s been saying some things that no one else has been saying — and indeed he’s been slammed for doing so. He’s been saying these things based on his own sources. Not even the NY beat reporters have been giving the same content as Matt has.
In light of this, I appreciate Matt’s posts on Santana and I hope he keeps it up. Even saying nothing much has changed is good news since most of the mainstream media, like sheep, continue to say the Red Sox and Yankees remain the frontrunners and/or are on the verge of clinching the deal.
I agree that our top 4 prospects make up a pretty hefty price tag, but if Santana’s not worth that, then who is? Personally, I hope the Twins go for it.
Not saying I’m completely opposed, but, again, ouch. We definitely put everything on the line with him. Enormous contract, best prospects gone, etc. Better hope he never gets in a cab.
Heyman is wrong. It will not be any 4 prospects. It will start that way. But….take Fmart, we keep Gomez. Take Pelfrey, we keep Mulvey or Humber, Take Guerra, we keep Pelfrey…that kind of thing.
Plus…this deal does not go down. In the end…Santana is a Twin for half the season and gets traded to us as a midseason pickup for essentially the same deal that is on the table now….
Pelfrey, humber, Gomez and Heilman
trying to picture someone taking a dump at a public urinal…..
Ha….I think the chick I saw on NYE literally sitting on the urinal in the mens room taking a leak has infiltrated my brain….
Highlight of the night(sadly enough)….5 guys saying ‘Oh its totally cool, no problem, go for it’….she gets up and leaves and in unison we all scream “What a wh*re!!!’…
Good times….
That is fantastic….
doesn’t matt have an e-mail address if readers have complaints? it annoying to sift through this stuff. i think most readers would like to read about the mets in the comments sections with a few jokes thrown in.
about the mets in the comments section
about the mets in the comments section
about the mets in the comments section
about the mets in the comments section
about the mets in the comments section
about the mets in the comments section
Better?
Didn’t Matt say recently that pitchers and catchers was 13 weeks ago? Keep up, you.
Hey Cerrone On A Scale Of 1 To Ten Whats The Mets Number Or Whats Everbody Elses Feel Let Me Know
If this trade does go down, and Santana does come to the Mets, I give mad props to Matt and Metsblog. This is the only source that I read that consistently insists the Mets are not only in the mix, but the favorite to land Santana.
I have always thought Santana would be on the Mets, but my thoughts mean nothing in a world of great sports minds such as John Heyman and Mike and the Dog.
This seems to be heating up. When this happens usually it culminates in a trade being done. I just hope its the Mets. We should know in a week or two. Then we can argue if it was a good deal if we get him……….I hope.
Carlos Gomez, Aaron Heilman, Kevin Mulvey, Philip Humber, Brant Rustich & Ruben Gotay for Johan Santana.
Too much - especially if what Heyman said is true (i.e., “any four prospects”) - of course, that is a big “if”.
I suspect if it is true, the Twins would take Gomez, F-Mart, Mulvey and Guerra.
Obscenely too much. Max 4 players and they have no need for Gotay
Too much? How is that even close to too much? That offer isn’t even worth half as much as the F-Mart + Gomez + Guerra + Mulvey deal. The 2nd offer is too much, not the first.
I think F-Mart + Gomez + Guera is very close to the right price.
what about Elvis’ cousin?
that should seal the deal!
I’m basing my selections on Heyman’s comment that the Mets said “take any four prospects” If I’m the Twins, those are the four I’d take.
If it’s F-Mart, Gomez and Guerra, then there has to be a fourth thrown in - maybe a B level prospect. At any rate, I’d rather the Mets hold onto a few decent pitching prospects as they will be needed at some point during the season - and certainly next season.
Why haven’t we heard more in regards to a possible relationship between Johan and Castillo? Is there one? Are they friends? Luis do some persuasion please.
Supposedly, they are friends. At least, Santana made some public comments about how mad he was when the Twins traded Castillo away last year.
I believe the anger had more to do with the Twins situation at the time. The team still felt like they were still in it and wanted the team to trade for more offense. Instead they traded off Castillo off for some minor leaguers. Castillo was batting over .300 and was considered a productive bat in a line up that was having trouble scoring runs.
A buddy of mine ran into Ed Coleman at his job today, first thing he says is “I heard you’re a big Mets fan, just wanted to let you know they just got Santana.”
As my buddy’s eyes widen he says “Nope, just wanted to give you a heart attack.”
did your buddy stab Ed Coleman with a pen after he recovered?
Ed Coleman did it for the lulz.
If he comes to the Mets, do you think he will use Anthony Mason’s barber (the guy that used to shave stuff into the back of his head) to shape/paint his goatee on his face?
If it’s the Mets’ best 4 prospects you have to assume
Carlos Gomez
Fernando Martinez
Kevin Mulvey
and 1 of…
Pelfrey, Guerra, Humber, or someone else they prefer over those three…
For…
Johan Santana for 7 years $150 million…
Way too much.
If the Twins really like Gomez as much or more than Ellsbury as theyhave been claimed to, then give them:
Carlos Gomez
Aaron Heilman
1 or Mulvey or Guerra
2 of Humber, Pelfrey, Rustich, Niese
Ruben Gotay