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Yesterday, Yankees VP Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News that his team will now begin work on a ‘final decision’ regarding a trade for Twins LHP Johan Santana.
According to the report, the Yankees best offer is likely to still be Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, pitching prospect Jeff Marquez and another prospect.
…well, like i had written, and so many others had as well, the only the way the Yankees get considered is if hughes is involved…the thing is, from what i can gather, the Twins value Carlos Gomez and Jacoby Ellsbury more than melky, and who wouldn’t…the thing, despite this report, and hank’s spin, there has been more than enough buzz suggesting the Yankees remain reluctant to trade hughes…
Yesterday, at his blog for the Journal News, Peter Abraham writes, “There are no indications that the Yankees will suddenly get back into the mix for Santana.”
Last week in the New York Post, Joel Sherman wrote that the Yankees are still unwilling to trade Hughes and are reluctant to give Santana a six-year contract extension.
In the end, the Daily News writes…
“Some in the game believe the Mets eventually will land Santana, if only because they might need him the most and might be convinced to overpay.”
…the only bit of buzz i picked up yesterday is that, assuming the Twins intend to make a deal, a trade for santana is likely to happen within the next week or so…from what i can gather, each of the three teams have essentially made their final offers - so the Twins need to accept one, get out of the way and let santana and his potentially new-club work out a contract extension…
Lastly, according to the Boston Globe, Santana is said to be seeking at least a seven-year deal, worth $140MM, ‘and the Red Sox are fine with that.’
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Another ten bucks in Matt’s pocket for mentioning Johan again….
Do you think the Wilpon’s give that to him in pennies?
candy
penny candies
Again, don’t be hating because they are rich and you’re poor. It’s capitalism, buddy.
Vinnie,
Fact of the matter is, the Wilpons are rich. They are obviously smart businessmen (Fred, at least is) who know how to manage their money (or pay someone to manage it for them). Calling them penny-pinchers because of their reluctance to pay a star pitcher $140 Million over 7 years is out of line. Especially when their payroll is already $120Million. If you want your team to spend $300 Million on its roster and lost in the Division Series, cheer for the Yanks.
To me, a comment like that is just as wrong as people making fun of Omar’s heritage. Take a break from it. No room for it.
danny relax… I was just playing. damn
zzzzzzzzzzz
Omar is that you!
Vinnie,
It’s all good. Just read all of the posts and seems to be a theme. Wasn’t taking it out on you nor do I think it means you’re a bigot. Just ticks me off when they have the 3rd or 4th highest payroll in the majors and so many people on this site accuse them of being cheap.
It’s just not factual.
Metbloggers never let the facts get in the way of a good zing.
You have to add humor to the comments here. Before everyone starts crying and whining about the lack of moves this off season.
So tell me again, why I am supposed to make fun of Omar and management over things they can not change or about things that are not true?
Well, everyone else is doing it…
Achilles, I wanted to be angered by your post, I really did, but then you had to go and make all this sense. So be it.
lol
Yeah, maybe if the Mets mention they are “involved” in Johan talks enough it will appease us fans….
New flash…..all it will do is anger us more b/c we have been down this “fake interest” road before…
Actually it makes me happy that Omar is smart enough to stand pat on a lose/lose situation. There is literally no possible way that we can win this trade unless Johan comes to the Mets, every single prospect we give them suffers a career ending injury, and Santana wins 20 games for the next 7 years and strikes out 1700 guys over that span. Otherwise there is no way to justify gutting the farm to offer a guy a 7/140 contract. Sorry guy. I want nothing to do with Johan at his price. I wouldnt even give them Gomez straight up if it meant we had to give Santana 7 years gaurunteed. Like I have said, it would be irresponsible to give him that contract if he was a free agent on the open market. To give him that contract after gutting your farm, I dont even have a word for that level of stupidity.
what if they win 2 championships in a 3 or 4 year span. that would make it worth it.
I guess, but not if you care about the future. Because if they did trade for Santana, they would have nobody to replace Alou, nobody to replace Delgado, nobody to replace Pedro, nobody to replace El Duque, nobody to replace Heilman, nobody to replace Ollie if he leaves, nobody to do anything at all. Our entire franchise would rely on the free agent market until the system could be rebuilt, which could take like 5 years or more to draft guys and get them into the mlb. And we all see how bad the FA markets have been. Besides, I think they can win without Johan.
Just for conversations sake though. If we trade for Johan, in 2 years our team would look like this.
1B ?
2B old Castillo
3B Wright
SS Reyes
CF Beltran
RF Church?
LF ??
C ??
SP Santana
SP Maine
SP ??
SP ??
SP ??
And absolutely nobody to fill any of those holes. No thanks, I am good without Santana. If we can get him as a free agent, I would still hate giving him 7 years, but I would do it because atleast it is only money.
“which could take like 5 years or more to draft guys and get them into the mlb”
should say before they can become key contributors in the mlb
That’s faulty logic.
Why can we not resign Schnieder or go after another FA catcher?
Why can’t we resign Ollie?
Why can’t Pelfrey or the other pitching prospect left not develop into a solid pitcher?
Why can’t we sign one of the many FA pitchers next year to fit in the back of the rotation?
Why can’t we sign a FA 1B or RF?
All of those moves do not hinge on Santana or no Santana. Most teams do not have their entire team locked up for 3+ years.
Besides I have not seen anyone advocating the
Gomez, Martinez, Pelfrey, Humber, Mulvey, Gurerra, Heilman trade.
That is a stupid blog. Fernando Martinez in left and a few free agent pickups are all we need
Gomez, Pelfrey, Mulvey, and 2 lower level prospects are probably as high as my offer goes. If Minny tells us to take a hike, I would let the kids develop.
Someone mentioned the Mets are in a lose-lose situation here. I think the fans are in a win-win. While I would love to see Santana at Opening Day in Citi Field 2009, I have no qualms about seeing Pelfrey develop into the solid 2/3 starter that I think he can be. I have no problem with giving Gomez another season in the minors and have he and FMart ready to patrol the corners in Citi Field in 2009. The Mets don’t NEED to make this trade. It would make them instant contenders, but I would NOT gut the farm to become that. The way to win is by having depth and a minor league system. Look at the Red Sox.
nrmax88
In case you didn’t know, the Mets have 2 first round picks and a sandwich pick this year, that means Before round 2 and after round 1,so the farm is NOT gutted. Also Pelfrey did Not take 5 years to develop so get your facts straight.
So Pelfrey’s done developing? If that’s true we definitely need to trade him now.
nrmax88,
I can see what you’re saying, but for the sake of seeing both sides of the argument (frankly, I don’t know which side of this I’m on), your logic has flaws in it. You’re essentially saying that all of these farm guys are definitely going to be ready to replace the guys we have now and be effective. That, sir, is a much more gutsy claim than saying that Santana will push this team over the top.
Johan 7 years 140 mil plus 4-5 propects… Will that justify a 22% increase in ticket sales.. I think so
SOLD!
Is this Vinnie “Wilpon?”
Yet another meaningless deadline from blowhard George Jr.
I was thinking almost the same thing, Boy, the new Yankees Regime is doing their best to make the organization look silly.
“We will not negotiate with A-Rod if he opts out” Hmm, didnt’ work out there
And haven’t they already said they had made a decision on santana? i do remember reading something from the winter meetings with some sort of a deadline…
And now another “Decision” is pending?
Way to go Hank, way to go!
I refer to him as “Sack of Crap” Steinbrenner.
They are probably scrounging through the couches of the luxury boxes for change right now.
OOOOOH look dad….. a quarter!!
Woohoo!
Again, ridiculous comment. The Wilpons have more money than you or I will ever see in our lives. Good businessmen take their time in making business decisions. This is obviously a business decision.
I totally agree with your two comments on the ridiculous comments disparraging the Wilpons.
Some commenters have to grow up.
Did this ever become an issue of the Wilpons being cheap? Last I heard, the Twins haven’t agreed to trade Johan. We don’t know the Wilpons position on paying Johan. Yes, we know they don’t like entering into deals for arms that last more than five years…but, isn’t that a GOOD thing?
The funny thing here is that I bet you thought up your little joke for 10 or 15 minutes, thinking that everybody would comment on how funny it was, or something. Ironically enough, it is absolutely not funny at all. Not even a smirk, sorry. I guess you get an “A” for effort, but that is really just something people tell losers to make them feel better, so who am I kidding.
This posting system blows. Like BaysideBilly’s joke.
Okay, while I agree with you that Wilpon is not a cheapskate, don’t you think that you are taking yourself a little too seriously?
Aside from the fact that BaysideBilly is entitled to think whatever it is he wishes and is allowed to post it until Cerrone deems it inappropriate, you are more out of line criticizing his posts than he is by making them.
If your opinion differs from Bayside’s, then debate your POV with him. Don’t tell him his posts blow.
BaysideBilly just jumped off the Whitestone Bridge after reading that assault…
I’m with Danny Phantom. The joke wasn’t funny, but the response to it was way too harsh.
Yankees will get him, bank on it, cha-ching…
I’m sorry but am I missing something, or is Hank Steinbrenner not a Yankees official? As far as I know it is considered tampering to openly discuss your teams intentions regarding a player currently on another club. It seems to me that Hank is making around a public statement per week blatantly naming Johan Santana and the Yankees intentions regarding him. If I don’t quite understand tampering will someone let me know, because the statements he makes CLEARLY can affect how other teams operate and the value the twins can get for Johan.
Somebody needs to wake Bud Selig from his nap and tell him that….
Yeah, it IS tampering but they are the Yankees… They are allowed to do whatever they want…
Well, it’s only tampering if the Twins file a complaint with the league. Since they are trying to turn a deal with the Hankees they won’t mention tampering. If the Hankees end up somehow screwing the Twins in the Johan negotiations then I can see them filing a complaint with MLB.
On another note, why not just blow out the payroll and offer Johan 4 or 5 years (so the contract can be insured, it seems the length of the deal for a pitcher not the $$ amount makes the contract difficult to insure) at $35M/ season.
If the Hankees can offer a roided up past his prime pitcher like clemens over $1M/start why can’t the Mets give the best pitcher of his generation the same deal for the next 4 years? The prospects the Mets are giving up are immaterial if it means getting Johan.
Gomez is a luxury for the Mets as they already have Reyes to leadoff, Pelf, Humber, Mulvey, Guerra (though I hate the idea of letting Guerra go) seem like they wouldn’t be hard to replace and Maine and OP plus Santana is a pretty solid foundation to build a rotation upon for the next 5 years.
Best pitcher of his generation?
Really?
Already?
Sure, look at the numbers and take into account he pitches in a hitter’s park in the AL.
Who’s better? Beckett? Peavy? Oswalt? Zambrano? Halliday? Prior and Wood were busts, Schmidt is nothing special, Kazmir, Bedard and King Felix are just starting their careers.
Pedro’s time is winding down and his best days were before Santana took off. Schilling and Randy are also relics of the 90s early 00s. The As “big three” were all ruined by injury (Hudson, Mulder) or inconsistancy (Zito).
From 2003 forward Santana has been the best or one of the best every year. And there is no reason that shouldn’t continue for at least 5 more years. He has an easy throwing motion, his best pitch is the low impact changeup and he’s a pretty good athlete. No reason he shouldn’t continue to stay healthy and dominant.
Is it? It might be a technicality in that he’s not discussing if they’re planning on trying to acquire him, but if they’re planning on planning on discussing acquiring him.
LOL WTF?
I… (finger pointing)… did not… have sexual relations… with that woman…
“Hello? Twins Brass? This is Hank Yank. I’m done playing games (not really). You have my final offer (not really). And we’re going to give Johan what we’ve already discussed for an extension (not really). So that’s it (not really). Hey, what was that crash (Wilpons breaking open their penny jar to “compete” with The Evil Empire).
Again, Wilpon has more money in his piggy bank than you will ever see in your life.
We all know that dannyb. So why continue to post it. And I think some of the posts about Fred’s penny pinching are amusing. I chortled at the couch post.
That’s all well and good Achilles. Because that puts you in the same category as someone that posts about his penny pinching. We all know who a comment like that is a knock at, but at least come with facts if you’re going to go there.
They spent money on Mo Vaughn (not wisely), Carlos Beltran, Pedro, Wagner, Piazza. What do you want the Wilpons to do? Buy every player in baseball? This team has the 3rd or 4th highest payroll in the majors. What is it that people don’t understand? Carlos Delgado is making money, Beltran, Pedro, Wagner, Castillo, Alou.
These aren’t your Benny Agbayani, Jay Payton, Timo Perez, New York Mets. The penny pinching comments are completely unsubstantiated and are basically veiled shots at their heritage. They are no different than making fun of Omar’s heritage when you post, which is inconceivable as well. Try your best to recognize a good thing when it’s in front of you. The management of this team has shown more of a commitment to winning than I can ever remember.
Man, you read pretty deep into that “heritage” stuff. I do theink they are penny wide and pound foolish however. I couldn’t care less what their race/religion/etc. are, I, frankly, would love to see them spend, spend, spend. It’s the way of the world! That’s why we have credit!
I prefer Hankie the Yankee
Mr. Hankie?
I may also be that the Wilpons are more affluent than the Steinbrenners - even with the relative advantage of the Yankees higher valuation.
The Wilpons are certainly classier. George was a tyrant and Hank is doing his best impersonation. Fact is, George would have let A-Rod walk or find a new agent before negotiating with him again.
Didn’t he give his final offer during the winter meetings? He’s coming off as a terrible negotiator.
again.
New Year, New Deadline….
What does it matter if you are a terrible negotiator if in the end you continue to get what you want anyway?
Omar should scour the Dominican for a pitcher named Johan Santana then sign him to a 7 year deal, give him the number 57 and say “I told you we’d get Johan Santana. Just not
which Johan Santana.”
ha
They already tried this with Jose Reyes, the fans are on to them now lol
I heard on that SNY show about Reyes in the Dominican or wherever he is from that he is down there watching games and stuff and the camera caught this speedy kid who was just blazing around the bases on the field that Reyes had just spent money on refurnishing. THAT KID WAS GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN THE METS ACADEMY DOWN THERE. THAT KID WAS JOSE REYES’s 1st COUSIN.
How cool if he turns out to be something huh?
Lets hope he can hit…
Are you mentally retarded?
I’m Metsilly Retarded.
I thought it was funny. Haha.
I can’t wait for this damn thing to be over so we can go back to discussing the Mets again.
For real, this site has turned into JohanSantanatraderumors.com - your 24/7 one stop shop for all things Johan, only the news is always the same, just regurgitated differently….
I agree……… sick and tired of reading the same thing over and over and over again……
Need a break? Just check this out. Good for a very good laugh. Make sure you don’t have any coffee in your mouth when you read. It’s an exerpt from a New York Post article this morning. This site wouldn’t allow me to post the link, so here is the clip…enjoy!!!
THOMAS SPOUTS DELUSIONAL TITLE TALK
By MARC BERMAN
January 3, 2008 — In his most over-the-top performance yet, Isiah Thomas guaranteed before last night’s disaster vs. Sacramento he was going to win a championship before he’s through in New York.
Omar made a similar guarantee with a similar reaction.
ahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahaha…
Did he specify which championship he would be winning? It aint in the NBA
NBA D-League?
He can put that team in the WNBA and still have a hard time winning a championship.
WNBA
And whats absolutely awful is, some of these ignorant dopes will compare Isiah and Omar. ITs absolutely hilarious. Isiah also gets a worse rap then he should, not to defend him. He drafts pretty well and has had succes with Indiana. Atleast they made the playoffs. Getting Randolph for Frye was a steal, and the knicks have talent, they just suck as a team. But it isnt 100 percent his fault. If they dont fire him, they have to let somebody else run the team or coach the team. He cant do both. You cant be objective on the floor when the guys you coach you personally brought in.
If Isiah was such a good evaluator of “talent”….explain Anucha.
Isiah thought Anucha had a nice rack.
Ahhh, that’s why he “hugged” her?
nrmax88,
Also gonna have to take issue with the “talented roster” fallacy. This team is a bunch of 6th men. Eddy Curry…6th man. Jamal Crawford….6th man. David Lee and Renaldo Balkman….6th men. Nate…6th man. Steph…7th man. Zach Randolph…good when he feels like playing.
Isiah had every opportunity to let bad contracts expire. Instead, he didn’t get players he wanted, he got players for the sake of making a change. I heard on 1050 that in 2011, they will be 28.5 Mil against the cap, that is only if Eddy Curry accepts his $11Mil player option. I think he should do that.
About Isiah drafting well. How would we know that? He hasn’t had a lottery pick in the last three years…(see Chicago). That trade by the way, for a few 6th men.
Anyone that comes in here and defends Isaiah on any level should be banned for life for judgment bordering on antisocial.
In related news, Santana is still on the Twins, the Red Sox have a guy named after a breakfast cereal, the Mets continue to have the only player in MLB with the name of one of the 50 states and the Yankees suck. Tune in for more developing stories on March 31st.
We also have a GM in one of the 5 states of grieving… “Shock and denial.”
We’re all tired of the Santana talk, just like we were with the Manny Ramirez talk a few years ago, but what else is there to write? Matt just posts whatever buzz is out there, and other than Santana at this point, there is nothing else
Hey don’t worry before you know it, we’ll be getting those awesome spring training stories of the journeyman 12th catcher who is trying to make the roster.
Every time Matt posts information on Santana it is a new tidbit of new comments or information. He researches it and give us his appraisal of its validity and what he thinks the situation is and if it has changed. Some guys on here do not want that. They would rather talk about Isah. GSSSSHH.
Keep it up Matt. I appreciate the up dates. It sounds like it won’t be too long until the Twins make up their minds or if there will be a last minute rush of new offers as the Twins finally get set to make their decision.
In Omar we trust!!!
I think the Royals will make a strong push for Santana in the end.
LMAO…Royals are going for broke this winter….that would be the icing on the cake…
Well, it is starting to sound like this saga whould be wrapping up soon. Either they just keep him, or take one of the offers.
The Mets at least need to move in another direction sooner rather than later if Johan isn’t coming to Shea. Hopefully Omar is having other discussions already (of course with the intent to circle back to the Twins before doing anything else). But at some point, a valid deal will be on the table that he has to move on.
Still wouldn’t surprise me to see an Omar “out of left field” deal come down. Someone that you weren’t expecting (possibly going back too). No idea who of course. Snell? Cliff Lee? Who knows.
The odd thing about Santana is that he effectively is a luxury for all 3 teams said to be in the race. While they all have 1-2 young guys slotted in, the Mets, Sox and Stanks do have full rotations now, so Johan would be an upgrade, not filling an empty spot. So each team could just go to ST with what they have on hand and see what happens.
For some reason, I do think he ends up on the Mets for a relatively modest 4 man package (Gomez/Mulvey + 1 more P and a position prospect). martinez and pelfrey remain on the Mets, and hopefully Guerra.
If not, Omar brings in someone unexpected.
That’s a realistic assessment. The thing about the unexpected trade is that it’s kind of scary when it happens. I just hope that the dice roll our way and if we do trade prospects, we choose to keep the right ones.
Whoever referenced Boston “doing it by having a sully stocked and producing farm has it right. We do need to continue that focus. On the less realistic side, a rotation of Santana, Pedro, Perez, Maine + (winner of the 5th spot contest) is a fairly heady thing to contemplate.
That was me, above. It’s so true. People look at their payroll and assume their winning is a product of payroll. It really isn’t when you look at their roster.
Dustin Pedroia was as much of a factor as anyone in their success this year. Jason Varitek was home grown. Kevin Youkilis was a major factor. Obviously Papelbon. Smart baseball decisions like acquiring David Ortiz when he was let go by the Twins, trading for an ace like Beckett. The Sox flex their financial mite when they need to, but they don’t lose site of the big picture. I think that’s why people prefer their business model to the Yanks’, and it also seems like this is what Hanky “The Christmas Poo” wants his Yanks to become.
“…and it also seems like this is what Hanky “The Christmas Poo” wants his Yanks to become.”
I mean, it’s what Hank wants the public persona of his Yanks to be.
Off topic, I think before making any statements, Hank should be forced to say “Haaaaaydy hooooo”. The media should stop going ot his press conferences and listening to his conference calls unless he does.
How many times is Hank gonna make a “final decision” on this? This guy is starting seem like a real mental case.
He is. And why is he reporting to the papers where he stands on every deal, every rumor?
Because Hank likes to keep everybody in the entire free world in the loop on the inner workings of the Yankee Organization…
As the world turns, so do the days of the Yankees Organization’s lives.
Didn’t Hank’s deadline already pass? I mean, does this jerk ever shut his mouth?
I think it would be better to stop listening to him. Let’s face it, in Hank’s world (not to be confused with that annoying “It’s a Small World” ride at Disney World), along with most other Yanks fans, Johan Santana obviously wants to be a Yankee and he would be an ignorant fool to want to go elsewhere. This is the best team, with the best fans, with the best stadium, with the best ownership, with the best tradition, with the most championships. Not only does Johan obviously want to be a Yankee, but the Twins obviously think Phil Hughes and Jeff Marquez are going to be Ryan and Seaver.
So, my friend…in the end, it is upto Hank. If he wants Santana, he gets Santana. The Mets are doomed to play 2nd fiddle to the big bad Yanks.
Don’t know about you guys, but I’m scared.
That being said- if the Mets let Yankees get Santana (especially if it comes down to MONEY and Freddie Coupons cheaping out on the 6-7 year deal)…well then Freddie might as well either sell the team or move it to New Orleans or something. I mean the Mets have already lost most if not all of us due to the collapse (and nobody being held accountable for it) and also w/ the inactivity/dormancy the past 2 offseasons…but if the Yankees somehow get Santana and make another huge splash (w/ the Mets not having made a splash since Wagner over 2 years ago, and the NYY having made splash after splash over this same time…well, like I said, Freddie might as well just halt the construction on the new stadium and sell the team- cause he will lose us all.
Wagner “Splash” = cannon ball from Omar in 2005.
Johan “Splash” = cannon ball from Omar circa 2007.
The Mets didn’t lose me. I’m a Met fan. Always have been, always will be. I didn’t enjoy the final weeks of the season any more than anyone else here, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop rooting for them.
If you think this is bad, you should have been around in the mid-70’s.
You can jump on and off the bandwagon all you want.
Me? I’m staying.
The only splash you hear these days is the rats jumping off the ship aka the bandwagon that the Mets were imploring people to jump on in 2005….
Dude…….go find another team to root for if you are so down on this one. I don’t think you’ve had one positive thing to say regarding any part of this franchise since you started posting here. And as far as you speaking for “us all”, let me clarify…….
The views expressed by firemetmanagement are his alone and are not endorsed by the NY Mets, Metsblog, Matthew Cerrone, real Mets fans, Mr. Met or Keith Hernandez’s mustache.
Stickguy,
Santana is not a “luxury” for the Mets - at this point, and given my comments above, Santans is all but a necessity. He would be a luxury for Boston, and for the NYY (somewhat)…but not for the Mets. Not with what happened last year, not with this pitching staff, not from a GM who has sat idly by and done nothing + make bad trades the last 2 offseasons. No way.
forget about last year, and what the GM has or hasn’t done. The only thing that matters is the players they have for next year. The rest is just back ground noise.
The Mets actually have a more settled rotation than the Yankees do (not the Sox though). Although the Yankees do still subscribe to the theory that if you can’t pitch, at least win the shootout!
The Mets should add another legit quality arm to the rotation (for depth if nothing else), but it does not have to be Santana.
Effectively, they need a fith starter (with Duque/Pelfrey combo as the 4th), but ideally they find someone that can slot higher in the rotation to push them back to #5.
Again, it does not have to be Santana, but it also isn’t going to be one of the other rookies (they are really needed for depth).
Since you mentioned the Ynakees, they have Wang (great finish!), Mussina (shot), Petite (roids, injury risk, but can still be decent) and 2 rookies, 1 that has never started a ML game (uness Joba goes to the pen, in which case it is Kennedy who started a few).
I take Pedro, Maine, Perez, Duque/Pelfrey over that bunch!
Who ever keeps saying that Melky is better than Carlos Gomez should poke your stupid FCUKIN eye out and never watch baseball again.
And I heard Omar Comes to this site and takes a peek at what we talking about lol
melky is so much more polished than gomez, and i hate the yankees……of course Gomez has a higher cieling…but when it comes down to it, you cant guarantee no1 that he wont just be another alex escobar, ok maybe thats a bit low … but u get my point lol
ANd …. any1 who is “happy” going into the season with out rotation…. is plain blind … will this team make the playoffs with this starting 5 … of course ….. beyond that?
have any of you watched baseball recently?
beckett?
wang (not an ace)
its all about getting “that guy”
sure theres only maybe 8-10 true ACES …. but a big market team spending over 100 mill better have one!!!
OK Boys and girls……time for a little sanity break !!
Omar can’t necessarily pull off the “Big Deal” so far this off-season because, unlike the retired “Boss” across town did in the late 70’s early 80’s, he is not going to gut any and all young talent we have just to have the biggest shiniest toy in the shop. He is waiting Minnesota out (as are the Sox and the Yanks) to try to get this player with a more reasonable package. That is called “restraint”…..a few of you should try to exercise some of this when you post ! There is also the issue of the lack of FA TALENT being available this off-season. And for those screaming about signing Bartolo Colon….if he wants a guaranteed 2 year deal then let someone else take that chance….we do not need to tie up a rotation spot with a guy who has always battled weight problems and is coming off an injury (and remember….just because he is pitching well in whatever league he is currently throwing in does not mean that this will translate to success in the Majors). I agree that if he is willing to take a 1 year deal then maybe we overpay for him a bit….that would be worth the risk.
Mr. Wilpon is spending a LARGE amount of money not only on the current team, but also to replace that hole the Mets have played in since the 60’s. Will it end up costing us, the fans, more….of course. Will I (and many of you) continue to pony up….of course. Again, showing restraint when it comes to paying a STARTING PITCHER a record amount of money and being held to a 7 YEAR contract is wise on two points……1) Allocating a LARGE chunk of payroll to a player who is on the field only once every 5 days 2) Allocating a LARGE chunk of payroll to a player at a position that history shows us is susceptible to injuries that can at times take more than a year to recover from (see Tommy John).
And as long as I am pontificating, let me offer this in defense of Matt Cerrone…………..anyone who is tired of hearing about Johan Santana…..DON’T READ THAT PARTICULAR THREAD !!!!!
I would prefer to peruse any snippets, opinions, rumors, viewpoints, comments, theories or ramblings I can find at this time of year as opposed to letting my imagination just run wild. I want to hear what “a respected GM”, “a media source”, “a person close to the team”, “an insider”, “someone on the Citifield construction crew” or “Keith Hernandez’s housekeeper” has to say on the subject……I find these things entertaining ! Thank you Matt, for finding anything to get me through to Pitchers & Catchers !
With that said……..LET’S GO METS !!!!!!
We now return you to your regularly scheduled ramblings and insanity ! :-)
his “restraint” might cost us the NL east when cole hammels wins 20 games with dominating performances deep in a penant race …. while our ACE pedro, is battling and scraping to get thru 6……
i understand your overall point …. i hate people who say wilpon is cheap, bcuz we are in the top 5 payrolls in the league …… but we all know this team can probably afford another 20mill on the books..
i dont think hes cheap, but i do think he needs a reminder from time to time that we are a large market, high revenue team…… one more move .. get us johannnnnnnnnn lol
ALSO ….. look at what the sox gave up to get becket ….will gomez or martinez ever be as good as Hanley Ramirez … need to take the chance
bottom line is JOhan is sporting pinstripes in the bronx next year i will execute myself …. thank you, im done for today
HANK THE TANK! HANK THE TANK!
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Wow looks like Hank is running the show down there in Minny….I wonder how the Twins GM feels about that statement….