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Yesterday, Yankees VP Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News that his team will now begin work on a ‘final decision’ regarding a trade for Twins LHP Johan Santana.
According to the report, the Yankees best offer is likely to still be Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera, pitching prospect Jeff Marquez and another prospect.
…well, like i had written, and so many others had as well, the only the way the Yankees get considered is if hughes is involved…the thing is, from what i can gather, the Twins value Carlos Gomez and Jacoby Ellsbury more than melky, and who wouldn’t…the thing, despite this report, and hank’s spin, there has been more than enough buzz suggesting the Yankees remain reluctant to trade hughes…
Yesterday, at his blog for the Journal News, Peter Abraham writes, “There are no indications that the Yankees will suddenly get back into the mix for Santana.”
Last week in the New York Post, Joel Sherman wrote that the Yankees are still unwilling to trade Hughes and are reluctant to give Santana a six-year contract extension.
In the end, the Daily News writes…
“Some in the game believe the Mets eventually will land Santana, if only because they might need him the most and might be convinced to overpay.”
…the only bit of buzz i picked up yesterday is that, assuming the Twins intend to make a deal, a trade for santana is likely to happen within the next week or so…from what i can gather, each of the three teams have essentially made their final offers - so the Twins need to accept one, get out of the way and let santana and his potentially new-club work out a contract extension…
Lastly, according to the Boston Globe, Santana is said to be seeking at least a seven-year deal, worth $140MM, ‘and the Red Sox are fine with that.’
Another ten bucks in Matt’s pocket for mentioning Johan again….
Do you think the Wilpon’s give that to him in pennies?
candy
penny candies
Again, don’t be hating because they are rich and you’re poor. It’s capitalism, buddy.
Vinnie,
Fact of the matter is, the Wilpons are rich. They are obviously smart businessmen (Fred, at least is) who know how to manage their money (or pay someone to manage it for them). Calling them penny-pinchers because of their reluctance to pay a star pitcher $140 Million over 7 years is out of line. Especially when their payroll is already $120Million. If you want your team to spend $300 Million on its roster and lost in the Division Series, cheer for the Yanks.
To me, a comment like that is just as wrong as people making fun of Omar’s heritage. Take a break from it. No room for it.
danny relax… I was just playing. damn
zzzzzzzzzzz
Omar is that you!
Vinnie,
It’s all good. Just read all of the posts and seems to be a theme. Wasn’t taking it out on you nor do I think it means you’re a bigot. Just ticks me off when they have the 3rd or 4th highest payroll in the majors and so many people on this site accuse them of being cheap.
It’s just not factual.
Metbloggers never let the facts get in the way of a good zing.
You have to add humor to the comments here. Before everyone starts crying and whining about the lack of moves this off season.
So tell me again, why I am supposed to make fun of Omar and management over things they can not change or about things that are not true?
Well, everyone else is doing it…
Achilles, I wanted to be angered by your post, I really did, but then you had to go and make all this sense. So be it.
lol
Yeah, maybe if the Mets mention they are “involved” in Johan talks enough it will appease us fans….
New flash…..all it will do is anger us more b/c we have been down this “fake interest” road before…
Actually it makes me happy that Omar is smart enough to stand pat on a lose/lose situation. There is literally no possible way that we can win this trade unless Johan comes to the Mets, every single prospect we give them suffers a career ending injury, and Santana wins 20 games for the next 7 years and strikes out 1700 guys over that span. Otherwise there is no way to justify gutting the farm to offer a guy a 7/140 contract. Sorry guy. I want nothing to do with Johan at his price. I wouldnt even give them Gomez straight up if it meant we had to give Santana 7 years gaurunteed. Like I have said, it would be irresponsible to give him that contract if he was a free agent on the open market. To give him that contract after gutting your farm, I dont even have a word for that level of stupidity.
what if they win 2 championships in a 3 or 4 year span. that would make it worth it.
I guess, but not if you care about the future. Because if they did trade for Santana, they would have nobody to replace Alou, nobody to replace Delgado, nobody to replace Pedro, nobody to replace El Duque, nobody to replace Heilman, nobody to replace Ollie if he leaves, nobody to do anything at all. Our entire franchise would rely on the free agent market until the system could be rebuilt, which could take like 5 years or more to draft guys and get them into the mlb. And we all see how bad the FA markets have been. Besides, I think they can win without Johan.
Just for conversations sake though. If we trade for Johan, in 2 years our team would look like this.
1B ?
2B old Castillo
3B Wright
SS Reyes
CF Beltran
RF Church?
LF ??
C ??
SP Santana
SP Maine
SP ??
SP ??
SP ??
And absolutely nobody to fill any of those holes. No thanks, I am good without Santana. If we can get him as a free agent, I would still hate giving him 7 years, but I would do it because atleast it is only money.
“which could take like 5 years or more to draft guys and get them into the mlb”
should say before they can become key contributors in the mlb
That’s faulty logic.
Why can we not resign Schnieder or go after another FA catcher?
Why can’t we resign Ollie?
Why can’t Pelfrey or the other pitching prospect left not develop into a solid pitcher?
Why can’t we sign one of the many FA pitchers next year to fit in the back of the rotation?
Why can’t we sign a FA 1B or RF?
All of those moves do not hinge on Santana or no Santana. Most teams do not have their entire team locked up for 3+ years.
Besides I have not seen anyone advocating the
Gomez, Martinez, Pelfrey, Humber, Mulvey, Gurerra, Heilman trade.
That is a stupid blog. Fernando Martinez in left and a few free agent pickups are all we need
Gomez, Pelfrey, Mulvey, and 2 lower level prospects are probably as high as my offer goes. If Minny tells us to take a hike, I would let the kids develop.
Someone mentioned the Mets are in a lose-lose situation here. I think the fans are in a win-win. While I would love to see Santana at Opening Day in Citi Field 2009, I have no qualms about seeing Pelfrey develop into the solid 2/3 starter that I think he can be. I have no problem with giving Gomez another season in the minors and have he and FMart ready to patrol the corners in Citi Field in 2009. The Mets don’t NEED to make this trade. It would make them instant contenders, but I would NOT gut the farm to become that. The way to win is by having depth and a minor league system. Look at the Red Sox.
nrmax88
In case you didn’t know, the Mets have 2 first round picks and a sandwich pick this year, that means Before round 2 and after round 1,so the farm is NOT gutted. Also Pelfrey did Not take 5 years to develop so get your facts straight.
So Pelfrey’s done developing? If that’s true we definitely need to trade him now.
nrmax88,
I can see what you’re saying, but for the sake of seeing both sides of the argument (frankly, I don’t know which side of this I’m on), your logic has flaws in it. You’re essentially saying that all of these farm guys are definitely going to be ready to replace the guys we have now and be effective. That, sir, is a much more gutsy claim than saying that Santana will push this team over the top.
Johan 7 years 140 mil plus 4-5 propects… Will that justify a 22% increase in ticket sales.. I think so
SOLD!
Is this Vinnie “Wilpon?”
Yet another meaningless deadline from blowhard George Jr.
I was thinking almost the same thing, Boy, the new Yankees Regime is doing their best to make the organization look silly.
“We will not negotiate with A-Rod if he opts out” Hmm, didnt’ work out there
And haven’t they already said they had made a decision on santana? i do remember reading something from the winter meetings with some sort of a deadline…
And now another “Decision” is pending?
Way to go Hank, way to go!
I refer to him as “Sack of Crap” Steinbrenner.
They are probably scrounging through the couches of the luxury boxes for change right now.
OOOOOH look dad….. a quarter!!
Woohoo!
Again, ridiculous comment. The Wilpons have more money than you or I will ever see in our lives. Good businessmen take their time in making business decisions. This is obviously a business decision.
I totally agree with your two comments on the ridiculous comments disparraging the Wilpons.
Some commenters have to grow up.