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Jason B sent in the following question…
“Do you know if Angel Pagan has any options left – or was his acquisition to keep Endy Chavez hungry and working hard
to win his reserve outfield spot?”
…yes, pagan has options left, and so he can essentially be promoted and sent down from the minor leagues at any time…
…by the way, i seriously doubt that endy needs additional motivation…
…the pagan acquisition led to a variety of interesting theories…i heard people wonder if it means endy could get traded…or, that it must suggest a deal for santana will clobber the team’s outfield depth, i.e., Carlos Gomez or maybe even Ryan Church…who knows…it’s an interesting thought, considering the following:
During a recent chat with the Boston Globe, ESPN.com’s Peter Gammons said that the Mets are currently trying to build up inventory to trade for Johan Santana, adding that Twins GM Bill Smith may be ‘waiting to see if any offer gets better.’
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We won’t give you Reyes, but you can pick 12 out of the following 26 names…
I really don’t think that the Mets are giving up Church. Neither Chavez or Pagan or Gomez are sufficient hitters to hit in the back of the order.
I think that the Valentin and Pagan deals show that at least Gotay & Heilman are leaving (And probably Gomez, our best available trade asset)
sell pagan to the cubs then give up 2 prospects including a relief pitcher with good #’s in the minors for him.
not effective. can’t hurt to have depth though for a team that had 6 outfielders on the dl last year.
I like Peter Gammons, and his fellow sportswriters think highly enough of him that I guess he must have been pretty good at one time. But I swear that I can’t remember the last time he wrote anything that wasn’t pure hogwash.
Let me see if I’ve got this right: the Mets’ prospects (Gomez, FMart, Pelfrey, Humber, Goera) are laughably unattractive to the Twins, but the Mets can put together “inventory” of unwanted journeymen like Pagan that the Twins will accept for Santana?
It could be that the inventory they’re trying to build up is intended to leave the farm not so decimated after a certain big trade. Do you want guys who last year played A play AAA this year just to fill in holes? Pagan might not be as good as Gomez, but at least he’s a replacement….
you make a very good point…the Mets still have to field minor league teams at every level…if half-a-dozen players leave the organization, they have to be replaced – in quantity if not quality…that’s what these minor signing are for – to plug holes, if needed.
I agree that if they trade both FMart and Gomez , they’ll have two minor league OF spots to fill. I hope they don’t do it though.
Much as I’d love to have Santana, I think we need to keep one our two blue chip prospects. And, remember that while their turning from prospects into stars is far from certain, so is the notion that Santana will take us to the Promised Land or that he will stay healthy and dominating for 8 years (since he wants a new 7 year contract). I still remember Frank Robinson saying that the Mets’ acquisition of Bret Saberhagen meant they had a lock on the NL East in the coming season (the early 90s, a truly dark period in Mets’ history. Same thing for Frank Viola.
Actually, Gomez, F-Mart and Guerra are not laughable. In fact they want both Gomez and F-Mart. It’s beyond those three where it becomes laughable.
I think that pretty much puts the Kibosh on any hope of getting Santana:
Once Gammons says it “might happen”, you know the deal is dead.
I think the writers are just trying to justify the Mets’ moves, much like we do. Unfortunately, these fools get to post it on their own blog, and on a major website.
If you ask me, my peace of mind is deteriorating because of all of the rumors. I never used to follow it as closely, but now that I am. I wish I hadn’t. Yet still, I am here again, typing.
I mentioned this last week in the comments and got my butt kicked by “peretzNYC”.
Still, I agree with “pezoa” above that this move could mean that the Mets are still seriously in the hunt for Santana and they will need some outfield inventory to support AAA or the Mets bench should they have to trade Gomez, Famart, and or Church.
The fact that Gammons mentioned this shows that he is covering his butt if a deal does go down.
Anyway, In Omar we trust!!!!!! Go get Santana on the phone from Isreal.
I just want the twins to make a decision so we can get on with planning for next year. I do not think it is the end of the world if we just fill holes and get a back of the rotation pitcher…disappointing, but not the end of the world…I just want the agony of the Santana story to end…
Say we trade Church, Gomez and Guerra for Johan.
Who would play RF for us? Endy is obviously not the answer, I wonder who else Omar would shoot for.