Comments on: Buzz: F-Mart Keeping Johan Deal on Hold http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/ MetsBlog.com features the latest Mets rumors, player movement, and news circulating around the Internet, as well as Mets related insights and opinions by Matthew Cerrone and his team of guest bloggers. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:48:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: bluNoway2go http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78551 bluNoway2go Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:44:08 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78551 Wow, your rhetoric is as useful as some of these other geniuses who think our best strategy is to wait til the price goes down. Yeah your right guys look at what our fabulous strategy of attrition did for us with Zito, oh wait San Francisco came out of nowhere and swiped him which exactly the same dilemma the Mets are risking with Johan. Johan is the best pitcher in baseball and thus, deserves a King's ransom, but you think that 4 of our "highly" touted prospects are enough. It's either quantity or quality and its fair to say that quantity is all the Mets have to show. And for the record, your insertion of the Yankees as an example is just simply counterproductive, the Yankees have a better farm than us so whats your argument. Wow, your rhetoric is as useful as some of these other geniuses who think our best strategy is to wait til the price goes down. Yeah your right guys look at what our fabulous strategy of attrition did for us with Zito, oh wait San Francisco came out of nowhere and swiped him which exactly the same dilemma the Mets are risking with Johan. Johan is the best pitcher in baseball and thus, deserves a King’s ransom, but you think that 4 of our “highly” touted prospects are enough. It’s either quantity or quality and its fair to say that quantity is all the Mets have to show. And for the record, your insertion of the Yankees as an example is just simply counterproductive, the Yankees have a better farm than us so whats your argument.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78541 MudvilleNine Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:24:59 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78541 You just went on a diatribe about how bad he is and then you turn around and think you can get some team to overpay for him? Do you even listen to what your saying? He's horrible but you have to give me these 3 prospects for him. Where are you getting this from? You just went on a diatribe about how bad he is and then you turn around and think you can get some team to overpay for him? Do you even listen to what your saying? He’s horrible but you have to give me these 3 prospects for him. Where are you getting this from?

]]> By: The Only Jefferies Fan http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78540 The Only Jefferies Fan Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:22:12 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78540 Patience. Our decision will be influenced by the decisions of the Yankees and the Red Sox. If the Yankees brass (Not Hank, but Hal and Cashman) decide against adding Johan, I can see the Red Sox's interest waning as well... They seem to have only as much interest in Santana as the other. Which leaves the Mets... who need to be patient. If the Red Sox become impatient with the Twins, and trade Crisp for a set up man, which they've been rumored to be considering, the Mets don't have to add FMart. A package of 4 prospects would seem to be sufficient. However, if push comes to shove, and FMart has to be had, and the Mets are held hostage by the Twins, well... Alright, damnit... It sucks, but Johan is that damn good... Patience.

Our decision will be influenced by the decisions of the Yankees and the Red Sox. If the Yankees brass (Not Hank, but Hal and Cashman) decide against adding Johan, I can see the Red Sox’s interest waning as well… They seem to have only as much interest in Santana as the other.

Which leaves the Mets… who need to be patient.

If the Red Sox become impatient with the Twins, and trade Crisp for a set up man, which they’ve been rumored to be considering, the Mets don’t have to add FMart.

A package of 4 prospects would seem to be sufficient.

However, if push comes to shove, and FMart has to be had, and the Mets are held hostage by the Twins, well… Alright, damnit… It sucks, but Johan is that damn good…

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78532 MudvilleNine Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:14:28 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78532 If I remember correctly that pitcher, 20 years ago, was a prospect that came up through our farm system. If I remember correctly that pitcher, 20 years ago, was a prospect that came up through our farm system.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78525 MudvilleNine Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:10:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78525 He didnt seem to be the best pitcher in baseball last year. Not even in the top 5. He didnt seem to be the best pitcher in baseball last year. Not even in the top 5.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78506 MudvilleNine Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:51:39 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78506 Who is going to give up any worthy prospects for a guy the Mets cant use as a 5th starter? Who is going to give up any worthy prospects for a guy the Mets cant use as a 5th starter?

]]> By: fyffem http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78498 fyffem Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:37:58 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78498 Hate to lose F-Mart but I'd carry his a$$ all the way to Minni for Johan. Hate to lose F-Mart but I’d carry his a$$ all the way to Minni for Johan.

]]> By: Big Lou http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78465 Big Lou Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:07:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78465 It was 20 yrs ago when we had a pitcher of this caliber, do you want to make it 40? This type of pitcher just isn't available. If you give up the farm that's when you sign a Moyor type or someone coming back from injury. Give them time down below to re-coup,if everyone is ready and playing good you can trade them or el duque for a young guy to start rebuilding again. It was 20 yrs ago when we had a pitcher of this caliber, do you want to make it 40? This type of pitcher just isn’t available. If you give up the farm that’s when you sign a Moyor type or someone coming back from injury. Give them time down below to re-coup,if everyone is ready and playing good you can trade them or el duque for a young guy to start rebuilding again.

]]> By: MudvilleNine http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78463 MudvilleNine Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:05:47 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78463 Yeah, throwing money out at draft picks will make them really good. Worked with the Yankees and Brian Taylor didnt it. Guerra and Martinez are high high end and come along few and far between. Last ones the Mets drafted with this high end were Gooden and Strawberry, so dont say a couple of first rounders and some money can replace them cause it cant. Omar knows this and is trying to get the deal done without giving them both up. Let him try because this is way too much talent compared to what the Sox and Yanks are being asked to give up. Yeah, throwing money out at draft picks will make them really good. Worked with the Yankees and Brian Taylor didnt it. Guerra and Martinez are high high end and come along few and far between. Last ones the Mets drafted with this high end were Gooden and Strawberry, so dont say a couple of first rounders and some money can replace them cause it cant. Omar knows this and is trying to get the deal done without giving them both up. Let him try because this is way too much talent compared to what the Sox and Yanks are being asked to give up.

]]> By: Big Lou http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78460 Big Lou Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:01:25 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/09/buzz-f-mart-keeping-johan-deal-on-hold/#comment-78460 We still have from last years draft that can't be traded for a year, which might be up soon. We still have from last years draft that can’t be traded for a year, which might be up soon.

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