Santana or not,I think you guys need to win something! I mean look at your sorry team’s record since 2000 – what have u got to show for all these years of overspending? one NLCS appearance??? and what if u get Santana? do any of you seriously believe you can match up with any of the AL teams? All this bandwidth in the offseason about “will we or wont we get”..cmon guys you guys had the team last year – getting Santana is life shock therapy on a comatose person..

you can’t count pedro because the team was supposed to have been built to not need him. you had to expect regression from lo duca and delgado because they’re getting older, and lo duca had an aberrational year in 2006. you have to be ready for that type of thing and the mets weren’t. it is irrational to think that when it comes to injuries the mets had it worse than the phils. it’s just plain wrong. look at the list of mets injuries somebody posted about this. it just doesn’t add up to what the phillies went through.

what do you think you’re proving by saying ‘iguchi did a good job’? that’s supporting your case? that’s the whole point. it came down to depth and the mets didn’t have enough. we didn’t ‘hit a stride’ because the starting pitching wasn’t good enough. we waited in vain for the 8, 9, 10 game winning streak. they didn’t have it in them. how do i know that? because they didn’t do it.

it’s as old as baseball- you don’t win games on paper. these game have been played and the results are in and you are still going by what could/should have happened. you can’t STILL tell me the mets were better than the phillies when we couldn’t win as many games and got pounded head to head. we were 6-12 against them. i’m not overanalyzing anything.

Number of WS won by Mets in that same time period: 1 (21 years ago)

Yeah, big difference.

thats not true, the rockies won 14 of their last 15 regular season games and would have been ahead of the phillies by like three games.”

Check the standings. After 162 gms, Phils, SD, and Col all had the same record, 1 game behind the best record in the NL. Mets were just a game off that pace.

Valentin went down for the year.

Pedro was out all year. Duque spent 2 stints on the DL. Burgos went down for the year. Duaner and Padilla never came back.

LoDuca spent 2 stints on the DL, and Castro was also on the DL during one of these stints. Our starting catchers were DiFelice and Alomar Jr.

Damion Easley went down for the year.

Those were the injuries.

Delgado played like garbage coming off two offseason surgeries. Heilman had a rough start. Schoenweiss was terrible early on. Glavine was not our as advertised ace. Green was a statue in RF.

The only players I would consider having *good* seasons are: Wright, Reyes, Beltran, Wagner, Feliciano, Maine, and Perez. That’s pretty much it. Although, Gotay and Castillo played well in limited action.

Not to mention Willie kept Delgado in the 4 hole and Wright in the 5 hole for waaaaaay too long. Wright should be cemented into the 3rd or 4th spot for the rest of his career.