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According to a person with knowledge of the 
negotiations, Fred Wilpon is willing to meet Johan Santana’s contract demands, writes Joe Christensen at his blog for the Star-Tribune.
…as i had written before, the sticking point for most teams has been the length of the contract, specifically because of insurance…
Christensen continues by writing…
“If Minaya swings the trade, as I wrote about today, Wilpon is confident he’ll get Santana signed. In the Mets’ camp, there is a belief that the price for Santana won’t be quite as high as advertised. Santana might ask for a six-year, $150 million extension, but there’s a belief teams could negotiate down from there.”
…well, like i have been saying, according to people close to him, santana prefers to pitch for the Mets and may be willing to work with them so a deal can get done…
This morning, Christensen wrote that the Mets can land Santana if they add Fernando Martinez to their current offer of Carlos Gomez, Deolis Guerra, Kevin Mulvey and Phil Humber
…my initial fear was that this report by christensen would motivate the Yankees…however, from what i can gather, the Mets are the only team that is truly being proactive in these negotiations…which is why the Mets are reluctant to part with martinez…and which is why the Twins will ask for him…
…i keep hearing fans and media say the Mets should retain martinez because they may be bidding against themselves…the thing is, the Twins do not have to trade santana today…or so they’ll say…by dragging their feet, the Twins can hold up the Mets from making other moves, such as inquiring about Joe Blanton or pursuing Bartolo Colon, etc, all of which could easily be unavailable to them in a few weeks…
…so, the Twins do have leverage in the sense that if the Mets want santana, and if santana wants the Mets, they can insist that martinez be included…sure, the Mets can wait and remain patient, and keep martinez out of the package, but who knows what will or will not happen in the meantime…
You make valid points about playing the waiting game. In addition, who knows if the shanks want to get back in on this and end up blowing everyone out of the water. If we can get Johan, do it Omar!!!!
THIS IS A NO BRAINER.
GETTING THE BEST PITCHER IN ALL OF BASEBALL.
ITS NOT LIKE WE ARE GETTING VICTOR ZAMBRANO OR SOMETHING.
IF THE PROSPECTS TURN OUT TO BE STARS. WHO CARES.
THEY WON’T TURN OUT TO BE JOHAN FREAKEN SANTANA.
it’ll placate a lot of the fans but long term youre giving up lots of prospects for one year of santana, then have to turn around and sign a 6 year + 120 million + contract for a pitcher who could blow out his arm at any moment.
this is not a slam dunk for the mets front office. i dream about santana throwing the first picth of 08 but theres a lot more to it.
Or we could turn down this deal to see Fmart tear his ACL or Gomez be the new version of Alex Ochoa. All while watching Santana Win a Cy Young in the Bronx. Or maybe have him shut us down 6 times a year in a Phillies uniform since anything can happen when it comes to free agents. Yeah, that’ll be fun.
3 Words: Pullsipher, Isringhausen, Wilson.
Lets get the proven commodity.
Don’t forget Elvis’ cousin. Or Tim Terrific.
there are worst case scenarios no matter what the mets decide. but i think my point is still valid. everything comes with a cost. there is a huge amount of personal and acctual capital that has to be exchanged for the expected return santana brings. tremendous amounts of money is involved. i know we fans expect and in many ways deserve a big move and improvement, but the health of the organization cant be sacrificed to placate the here and now.
ok, i sound like a mouthpiece, whatever, i just want to temper my exuberance. i want santana but there are valid reasons why you dont pull the trigger wothout thinking.
The Yankees do not have the talent to match this offer from the Mets.
As much as I want Santana on the Mets, this package is a disaster waiting to happen.
Martinez and Guerra are both teenagers and already productive AA players. Gomez is the best outfield prospect in the talks with the Twins (better than Ellisbury and Cabrera by far) and they’re getting Mulvey and Humber too…
This trade can do more damage than one might think.
Don’t give in Omar, you have to keep at least one of Martinez/Gomez.
You ahve to ask yourself what we would have to give up in a trade for Blanton and anyone else. If Billy and other GM’s see what we have on the table they too will be looking for (maybe not as many) prospects. If your gonna deal em you might as well deal em for Santana!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honestly i can careless..if they turned out to be stars..
its not like we are getting nothing.
WE ARE GETTING THE BEST PITCHER IN BASEBALL FOR 4-5 years….
plus we can repair our minor leagues with our 3 first round draft picks this year…..
like how the sox and yankees have.
just draft smart….
i remember when we traded for piazza….
we had to give up the farm….
yes the people we gave up became decent players……
but Piazza made the mets alive again..they made the mets worth watching..
THAT IS SOMETHING THE METS NEED.
WE LACKED A ACE IN GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS.
who did we trade for piazza? I remember preston wilson was involved… who else?
May 22, 1998: Traded by the Florida Marlins to the New York Mets for Preston Wilson, Ed Yarnall, and Geoff Goetz (minors).
Playing the waiting game is not an option. You will regret it.
Right now there are four different four player deals on the table. In my mind the Mets offer isn’t the best, so if the Twins say adding Martinez would get it done, for God’s sake throw him in the package and wrap it up.
BTW - I love Hanky Panky’s latest… he says his four player deal is off the table, but he doesn’t want the Twins to think the Yankees are out of it.
I love this guy!!
Hopefully this will silence the “Freddy Coupons” crowd!!!!
Do it up Omar!
Let’s see the dollars exchange hands before we start applauding Wilpon’s spending.. I’ve heard this song before..
and then he dropped $170 million on Pedro and Beltran. May not spend it wisely (Vaughn/Cedeno/Appier), but the guy spends money
No kidding, I don’t get it. When exactly did Wilpon become a penny pincher supposedly?
I’ve always said if the Mets are willing to give up that much for Santana, signing him would be an afterthought. Nice to see somebody confirm what I always thought, regardless of the “Freddy Coupon” posts.
too add to that list bobby bonilla the first free agent from the pirates
before we canonize fred wilpon allow me to remind you all that you will be spending alot more money at shea next year than you did this past year and thats regardless of whether or not we get santana so lets be realistic here, the guy basically owes us.
Not all fans go to Shea. Many fans are perfectly happy to watch the games at home, so that argument really doesn’t hold water.
They’ve had the highest payroll in the NL over the last decade or so. Wilpon is giving you a NEW stadium and paying for most of it himself. What more do you want????
Agreed. The Freddy Coupon nickname is just so lame. If anyone thinks Omar would go through these negotiations for just PR purposes and waste his time and credibility … and not get Wilpon’s approval to spend that type of money first … then they are just insane.
There’s no way the Mets would stay in this thing this long if they weren’t prepared to meet Santana’s price. That would only piss off some fans even more.
never thot of him as freddy coupons. the name is ridiculous to me.
It’s more than ridiculous. It’s obscenely ridiculous. If anything Wilpon has gone above and beyond the call of duty when it comes to throwing money around. He’s overpaid for almost every free agent that’s signed here since he took control of the team.
freddie coupons is a hilarious name, mainly bc i like calling him freddie rather than fred for some reason. didnt know he had so many relatives on this website. do any of you guys get a cut of the fanwalk bricks?
unfortunately, fans on forget to compare him to 29 other owners, and only compare him to Steinbrenner and Henry, and the fact that he won’t shell out close to $200 million a year, which is just ridiculous, especially considering the national revenue stream that the Sox and Yankees have, which the Mets don’t (and I don’t want them to ever have….screw bandwagon fans).
i agree with you gomets6091. we should be comparing wilpon to the braves and the phillies.
I say do it…Santana changes the dynamic of this team, for the better. LETS GO METS!
I can’t stand it anymore! I am like a kid on x-mas wondering what the big gift behind the tree is with my name on it!
Get it done, and lets move on.
Ps. You’ll shoot your eye out!
If it’s a big gift, it’s probably Colon.
lol
Yea thats the gift you thought you were going to get and it turns out to be pink bunny rabbit P.J.’s with matching hood.
Wait, what’s that over there behind the desk?
he looks like a pink nightmare
NADDAFINGAH!!
There’s a SNL skit for you “Its Colon in a box!!!!….oooohhhhh” Just get JTimberlake to do the skit and put Rosey in the Box to play Colon.
hahaa
Exactly. Seems the momentum is in our favor to land him so F-Mart shouldnt prevent us from doing the deal. We are keeping Pelfrey for god’s sake! Gomez and F-Mart can be replaced through free agency when necessary while an ace like Santana never seems to be available on the FA market anymore. Even if he was we would have to compete with all of baseball to sign him. Dont wait and lose this chance Omar. The Mets need him and the fans need him for a boost to our morale after the collaspe. Imagine him opening day this year at Shea or even better opening day at CitiField. Would be truly amazing. Please do it Omar. I beg of you!
We are so close to getting him now. He is in our grasps. If we dont get Santana and this was all a tease there will be many, many angry Met fans including myself. Get him Omar and Lets go Mets!
I agree that we should do it if it gets the deal done sooner than later, but isn’t it hard to believe that the 3 guys that we figured would be battling to flank Carlos Beltran when CitiField opens will no longer even be in our organization? A lot of excitement about these kids will have been wasted
Yeah but who will start for the Mets on opening Day 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, etc.
Pedro this year
John Maine, 2009-2012 at least.
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