Comments on: Buzz: O’s Interested in Octavio Dotel http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/ Latest Mets News, Links, Rumors and Opinion Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:22:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: stickguy http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80387 stickguy Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:25:11 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80387 Volume is important with building a pen. Not having lots of guys on long term guaranteed deals also helps with flexibility. Who knows which guys will be healthy enough to break camp with the Mets, and who will pitch poorly enough to lose a spot. Somehow, this will settle out, and the young guys with options mostly go down, a surpirse has a great spring and makes the team, someone gets hurt, and the rest of the spare parts get cut, traded or sent to AAA for emergency depth. Should be a fun compitition at least. Volume is important with building a pen. Not having lots of guys on long term guaranteed deals also helps with flexibility.

Who knows which guys will be healthy enough to break camp with the Mets, and who will pitch poorly enough to lose a spot.

Somehow, this will settle out, and the young guys with options mostly go down, a surpirse has a great spring and makes the team, someone gets hurt, and the rest of the spare parts get cut, traded or sent to AAA for emergency depth.

Should be a fun compitition at least.

]]> By: ravi3 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80378 ravi3 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:09:30 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80378 Wise is not fully guaranteed---If he gets cut, then he only makes 750K Wise is not fully guaranteed—If he gets cut, then he only makes 750K

]]> By: Kalihan42 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80374 Kalihan42 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:47:40 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80374 We can alway's trade some of the guys out of spring training that there is not space for for some other spare parts that we need. I say bring him in, that way we have another option if Sanchez is not 100% or if we have to trade Heilman to get an established starter, or for when El Duque gets hurt right out of spring training. We can alway’s trade some of the guys out of spring training that there is not space for for some other spare parts that we need. I say bring him in, that way we have another option if Sanchez is not 100% or if we have to trade Heilman to get an established starter, or for when El Duque gets hurt right out of spring training.

]]> By: Mike Vail http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80371 Mike Vail Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:39:33 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80371 You guys are really overrating Register. He has never pitched above AA and has not had an ERA below 4.00 at AA. Rule 5's as often as not do not make the roster and are returned to the original team. I think it only costs the Mets like $25K for this transaction. I think two years ago the mets took Mitch Wylie as a rule 5, returned him to his original team who did not want him and the Mets were able to keep him in the minors all year. If the Mets see themselves as a playoff team, and with Willie's preference for experience in the pen, I see it pretty unlikely that Register stays on the major league roster all season. Right now I would say the seven men in the bullpen barring injury and trades given contract situations are: Wagner Feliciano Heilman Schoeneweis Wise Sanchez Sosa There is a chance Sanchez can start the year with a minor league rehab, Sosa with his inconsistency could miss. The other will all pretty much make the team given their guaranteed contracts. Smith, Register, Collazo and Muniz are on the outside looking in right now. Given Omar's history, I am sure he will sign about 6 other pitchers to compete for a spot and add depth like Oliver, Sele, Park have in the past. funny thing is, the bullpen is as settled in spring training as it ever has been although it is as bad as it has ever been. You guys are really overrating Register. He has never pitched above AA and has not had an ERA below 4.00 at AA. Rule 5′s as often as not do not make the roster and are returned to the original team. I think it only costs the Mets like $25K for this transaction. I think two years ago the mets took Mitch Wylie as a rule 5, returned him to his original team who did not want him and the Mets were able to keep him in the minors all year. If the Mets see themselves as a playoff team, and with Willie’s preference for experience in the pen, I see it pretty unlikely that Register stays on the major league roster all season.

Right now I would say the seven men in the bullpen barring injury and trades given contract situations are:

Wagner
Feliciano
Heilman
Schoeneweis
Wise
Sanchez
Sosa

There is a chance Sanchez can start the year with a minor league rehab, Sosa with his inconsistency could miss. The other will all pretty much make the team given their guaranteed contracts.

Smith, Register, Collazo and Muniz are on the outside looking in right now.

Given Omar’s history, I am sure he will sign about 6 other pitchers to compete for a spot and add depth like Oliver, Sele, Park have in the past.

funny thing is, the bullpen is as settled in spring training as it ever has been although it is as bad as it has ever been.

]]> By: yubbajr http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80368 yubbajr Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:27:18 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80368 The love affair with Heilman continues to baffle me. I just don't know where you guys developed such affection for him. He will never start another game in a Mets uniform. That's just the way it is. The love affair with Heilman continues to baffle me. I just don’t know where you guys developed such affection for him. He will never start another game in a Mets uniform. That’s just the way it is.

]]> By: Me llamo Pedro http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80367 Me llamo Pedro Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:24:42 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80367 This isn't going to happen, haven't you guys realized this by now? This isn’t going to happen, haven’t you guys realized this by now?

]]> By: metsrbest http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80346 metsrbest Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:57:07 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80346 I'll say it again...Matt Wise is NOT a good pitcher. He had one very good year, that's it. Plus who knows if he is still a head case from hitting that batter last year. It is not Wise to count on him as being a valuable member of the bullpen. I’ll say it again…Matt Wise is NOT a good pitcher. He had one very good year, that’s it. Plus who knows if he is still a head case from hitting that batter last year. It is not Wise to count on him as being a valuable member of the bullpen.

]]> By: therealsince86 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80330 therealsince86 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:41:26 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80330 first thing I thought of. I think it must have been a slight by Matt as he mentioned Register before Wise. I see the bullpen as full at the moment. Wagner, Sanchez, Heilman, Feleciano, Show, Sosa, Wise. If Dotel is brought in to me that means that Heilman is going to be traded. That is risky but if you could keep Fmart and trade the Twins Heilman I would think you have to do it. first thing I thought of. I think it must have been a slight by Matt as he mentioned Register before Wise.
I see the bullpen as full at the moment.
Wagner, Sanchez, Heilman, Feleciano, Show, Sosa, Wise. If Dotel is brought in to me that means that Heilman is going to be traded. That is risky but if you could keep Fmart and trade the Twins Heilman I would think you have to do it.

]]> By: Les Gomez http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80322 Les Gomez Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:34:05 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80322 Sign this guy. He can provide depth or replace Heilman if Omar deals him. Sign this guy. He can provide depth or replace Heilman if Omar deals him.

]]> By: krumbledkookie http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80318 krumbledkookie Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:33:01 +0000 http://www.metsblog.com/2008/01/15/buzz-os-interested-in-octavio-dotel/#comment-80318 I like Dotel a lot, but I'd rather Smith and other young guys compete for that spot. I like Dotel a lot, but I’d rather Smith and other young guys compete for that spot.

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