Matthew Cerrone

Buzz: Odalis Perez to Meet the Mets
By Matthew Cerrone - Jan 22, 2008 1:25 pm

According to Impacto Deportivo, free-agent LHP Odalis Perez will meet with executives from the Mets, who had been scouting him this winter in the Dominican Republic.

In 26 starts for the Royals last season, Perez was 8–11 with a 5.57 ERA through 137 innings, during which he struck out 64 and walked 50.

He has not finished a season with an ERA below 4.00 since 2004, when he was 7–6 with a 3.25 ERA in 31 starts for the Dodgers.

if i recall right, the Mets looked in to perez the last time he was a free agent, after that 2004 season…however, i do not believe talks ever progressed beyond a brief meeting, and he ended up signing a three-year deal with the Dodgers, during which he went 21–26 and was traded to the Royals…

he’s an intriguing pitcher, especially if he’s just a minor-league invitee…he’s got a strong fastball, and a pretty impressive curve ball at times…however, like a lot these type of pitchers, he leaves way, way too many pitches up, which get teed off on like it’s batting practicehe’s got the talent, but something just doesn’t seem to click for him

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Comment by stickguy
2008-01-22 13:33:43

Oh god, no. I would rather see chan Ho again.

Maybe Omar got confused. He is supposed to be extending Ollie perez, not Odalais.

Comment by Nightlife
2008-01-22 13:53:32

I was going to come in just to post “Oh god, no.”

Thank you for taking care of that for me.

 
Comment by jdon
2008-01-22 18:26:05

He doesn’t intrigue me at all. He has pretty much stunk wherever he has been. His “potential” is pretty much used up, as far as I am concerned.

 
Comment by dodger45
2008-02-04 12:13:27

Odalis would be a GREAT addition. He has NEVER got any run support with any team. The Mets could provide this. No one gets run support in KC and he had 18 “no decisions” prior to that in LA in 2005; A team that averaged scoring 2 runs or less for him….. A lefty with his ability could be invaluable.

 
 
Comment by Xavier22
2008-01-22 13:45:32

It’s Odalis Time!

 
Comment by zen
2008-01-22 13:47:05

no thanks.

it’s slowly creeping toward the start of the season without addressing the need for a solid starter (at least #3) and a good reliever.

sanchez certainly may give a lift in the pen, but you can’t count on him coming off an injury. in fact, after his unbelievable april in ‘06 he was pretty good, but not dominant:

april 16ip 0r
may 18.1ip 10r 8er
june 9.1ip 6r 5er
july 11ip 3r

 
Comment by jlazar2
2008-01-22 13:51:18

Ok, if it is only a minor league deal, why not? he cant be any worse than brian lawrence or chan ho park, and good teams need pitching depth…if it is ONLY a minor league deal, and ONLY one year, why not

Comment by zen
2008-01-22 14:09:47

the problem is the mets actually use these minor league deal player during the season. in ‘06 it was lima and jeremi gonzalez. in ‘07 it was park and lawrence.

it’s not like they only give them starts if they’re good. the mets start them even though we all know they’ll get bombed. over and over again.

i’d rather see pelfrey or humber even mulvey get those starts

Comment by Chris Jelic
2008-01-22 14:18:59

Perfectly said. Those who see no harm are missing the reality of this organization and Willie. Willie will use Lima/Lawrence/Odalis over somebody inexperienced because he knows what to expect with these guys. After all, a guarantied loss is better than the unpredictable…

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Comment by adropofvenom
2008-01-22 14:33:53

Those situations were kinda different. In 06 we were stuck with Lima at the time because the kids weren’t ready and we really had no better options (Maine had gotten hurt in his first start)

And in 2007 we had already given Pelfrey a shot and he was ineffective and Humber was dealing with food poisoning at the time, meaning that Lawrence was our best option at that point in time (Sadly enough), unless your advocating rushing Mulvey.

Next year we figure to have Pelfrey, Humber, and Mulvey sitting there in AAA (Or Johan Santana heading our rotation). Either situation lessens the need for someone like Odalis Perez.

And lets not forget that we also got people like Darren Oliver and Jorge Sosa on these Minor league Contracts, No risk, A bit of upside, type moves. If Perez turns into this years version of Sosa then it’s a great move.

 
Comment by Stem Ad
2008-01-22 14:39:48

Yes, we have guys this season like Humber and Mulvey, but what if we end up landing Santana? Then those guys are gone and this signing becomes decent minor league depth. I am just praying this is a prelude to a Santana deal, or else this singing is useless.

 
 
 
Comment by napes22
2008-01-22 14:58:31

But isn’t the reason we signed Lawrence and Park that they “couldn’t be any worse than Jose Lima?”

 
 
Comment by Slob
2008-01-22 13:51:50

This guy can’t possibly be looking for more than an incentive-laden minor league deal. If that’s the case, screw it. Throw him at the wall, see if he sticks.

 
Comment by magic00700magic
2008-01-22 13:52:24

I think our pitching will be fine to start the season, and may even surprise.

My bigger concern is the dead wood at the bottom of the order in Church and Schneider.

We can kiss those bottom of the order rallies good bye. Its going to be similar to the Rey-O days again. Still not sure why the Mets did this.

Comment by VCarver
2008-01-22 14:08:26

Dead wood? Oh, yeah right. Because Church had a higher OPS than either Green or Milledge last year. That makes a lot of sense.

Schneider is basically a wash with LoDuca from an offensive standpoint.

 
Comment by darkstar73
2008-01-22 14:16:35

seriously, stop the nonsense, you’re basing your arguement on hearsay, not actual facts. Church is not only a better offensive player then both milledge and green, but his defense is far superior to both of those two. As for Shneider, Lo Duca sucked last year, sure Schneider won’t be hitting towering HR’s and smacking doubles every which way, but what are we missing that Lo Duca provided besides weak singles, double plays, and a penchant to unraveled?

Comment by anditsouttahere
2008-01-22 14:50:21

well said

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Comment by thejuggernaut
2008-01-22 15:05:21

bout time someone competent spoke on Church

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Comment by stickguy
2008-01-22 15:43:16

Plus, the plan is to give Castro a decent amount of playing time. And logically, it will come with a LH pitcher going.

I don’t have them handy, but someone posted Schneiders splits, and he did pretty good against RH pitching. Take out some of the ABs against lefties, and his numbers should improve and be at least as good as Loduca.

This will be an interesting year, since those 2 switched jobs. Wonder who is going to have the better year>

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Comment by darkstar73
2008-01-22 16:03:28

it should be interesting to take a look at, but clearly Milledge is still learning on the job and the Mets couldn’t afford that, Church is much more polished, especially defensively, which is something Milledge truly was lacking instincts at, plus, his offense is clearly better at this point, and could improve in a better park. Milledge still can’t lay off an outside breaking ball while Schneider has shown decent patience at the plate. As for Schneider, I agree, its a perfect semi-platoon situation with him and Castro. Also, Schneider gets on base at a decent clip compared to his batting avg., which means he’s taking walks. If he hits against lefties more, his BA will improve, and so will his OBP, because of the consistent walking. We also won’t have the rally killer known as the DP as often because Schneider is willing to take a walk, while Lo Duca’s game was all about putting the ball in play, which he became increasingly worse at doing, with less and less power. I think the odds favor us, especially for this next year, unless Milledge puts it together and Lo Duca has come back year, all kind of doubtful.

 
 
Comment by sfca7
2008-01-22 17:47:10

Well said indeed. Church’s defense and offense production vs. righties is an upgrade for next year.

We do need a rightly bat to team with him. His career #s vs. lefties are lame. Even if we still have Gomez, he shouldn’t be that guy. He needs consistent ABs, and he’d be sitting most of the time.

Pagan makes more sense in that role, but he’s never impressed me much.

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Comment by Meddler
2008-01-22 22:02:13

To be fair Green was pretty solid against righties, their OPS against righties was virtually identical in 2008. Church provided a bit more pop and Green a bit more OBP.

However, Shawn Green was the anti-clutch. Check this out:

Shawn Green with a runner on third and less than two outs:

21 ABs 13 RBIs .286 avg .286 slg

Ryan Church:

43 ABs 23 RBIs .440 / .720

Bases loaded:

Green: .276 / .364
Church: .385 / .538

 
 
 
Comment by MudvilleNine
2008-01-22 15:07:42

Also because Schneider bats left-handed, Castro will see a lot more time, thus making up for whatever offensive deficiencies Schneider has. Besides, not having to bat against lefties will make Schneider’s numbers look even better.

 
 
Comment by levinakl
2008-01-22 13:55:34

bringing in Odalis Perez for a minor league deal would be a great move. No risk, potential reward, the guy was a good pitcher a few years back. Remember, we brought in Oliver Perez and he was “damaged goods,” so there’s no guarantee Peterson couldn’t fix him and bring him back to being at least serviceable, if not better. Granted, the chances are low, but that’s why they call it a no risk, potential reward move and I would appluad if Omar brought in Odalis.

The big annyoance would be having jerseys with Od. Perez and Ol. Perez if he were to make the roster, to me, that would be annoying! :)

Comment by adropofvenom
2008-01-22 14:12:03

The Mets Jersey’s don’t do initials in the case of multiple players with the same last name…remember Anderson, Roberto, and Orlando Hernandez all on the same team in 06, each just had Hernandez on the back, no initals.

Comment by levinakl
2008-01-22 14:26:04

good call, I forgot that, when they had the 3 Hernandez jerseys in the 2006 playoffs.

For some reason though, I feel like I’ve seen an O. Hernandez jersey at some point as a Met, but maybe I’m mistaken.

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Comment by mikey_FF
2008-01-22 15:22:19

There was also Bobby Jones and Bobby Jones in 2000!

 
 
 
Comment by Cactus
2008-01-22 14:13:53

Peterson does not fix pitchers! He’s a mediocre pitching coach whose best skill is supposed to be keeping pitchers healthy, and he hasn’t even done a good job at that since he’s been here.

Comment by adropofvenom
2008-01-22 14:20:35

He doesn’t fix them? The heavy majority of them are worse without him. Bradford and Oliver saw their ERA’s raise last year. Back with Oakland, Barry Zito and Mark Mulder both regressed without him. People like John Maine and Oliver Perez were picked up as throw-ins in deals and turned into a very legit #2-3 pitchers, and countless other examples.

I think his track record speaks for itself. Is he 100%? Hell no, but most people do better with Peterson then they do without Peterson, and that’s gotta be worth something.

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Comment by guierllNO MOta
2008-01-22 13:56:46

dead wood? I’m sorry did Lastings/Green/Gomez & Loduca put up better #’s last year…no probbably worse…

also, sign as many Odalis types to minor league deasl as you can….THIS is where having $$ comes in handy…not for guys like Livan who we have to guarantee $ to and sucks…but no harm in bringing ain as many arms as possible…

Also, what was Ollie’s ERA before the Mets got him? Over 7?

Comment by metsrule7
2008-01-22 14:07:01

I agree, people are going to be pleasantly surprised from what Church can give us at the bottom of the order. He’s another Chavez type of hitter who rarely hits HR’s but he hits gaps and puts the ball in play. I don’t recall when the Mets got Chavez if the fans on here were happy or not but they are happy we have him now and I think Church will give people the same feeling. I predict a .280 avg, 40 doubles, 18 HR, 80 RBI, 50 BB season. Thats fine from the 7th or 8th hole in my book.

Comment by Slob
2008-01-22 14:18:20
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