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ESPN.com has released the ‘07 payroll numbers which show the Mets were a distant fourth at $120.9 million.
They trailed only the Dodgers ($125.6 million), Red Sox ($155.4 million), and of course the Yankees, who led the way with a record payroll of $218.3 million.
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Who have we unloaded this offseason?
Lo Duca, Sele, Glavine, Mota and what?
Green, Milledge.
Valentin’s salary will be much lower.
I would like the Wilpons to compete with the numbers that the Red Sox are putting up. I can’t believe that the Dodgers are paying more. The Yankees are just freaking ridiculous.
Who cares. It’s only 7 million dollar advantage that the Dodgers have over us. If we get Santana then the Mets will easily jump ahead.
It’s not even really an advantage. They’re paying 7.5 to Juan Pierre who is actually a detriment to their team. They’re paying more to be worse.
I don’t want the Wilpons to broach the luxury tax threshold, just APRROACH it. We were almost $30M UNDER the tax cap. We’re valued by Forbes as the 2nd biggest franchise (next to Yankees, AHEAD of the Red Sox), yet got outspent by both the Dodgers and Boston…
That’s great in theory, but who would we spend the money on? Was there a particular free-agent this offseason that you think we didn’t go after because of their price tag?
meche, lilly, or a. soriano would have helped last year for which those figures represent. in fact, the mets would have won the division with any of those. i wouldn’t have signed zito, but even he would have made a different eliminating the lawrence, pelfrey, park, vargas starts.
Out of that list I would have signed Soriano. He would have slotted into RF/2B quite well.
As for the other pitchers, if Omar had signed one of those then everyone would have been complaining about not giving Pelfrey a shot.
1. Who gives a $hit..
2. 1.375 million per win in 2007….
dont you guys know…spending money just to spend money produces championships…..just like in the early 2000’s for the Mets….cmon idiots, get a clue, the Wilpons WANT to spend the $$$$$ but if they spend it on Kyle Lohse you’ll be mad at them for WASTING $$$…you can’t have it both ways.
Exactly. We have a lower payrole because of Maine, Perez, Reyes, and Wright. All young and cheap.
Mets have cut $ 20 million off last year’s payroll with Glavine, LoDuca, Mota and Shawn Green off the payroll. They added a little in raises. When you match teams revenues with expenses paid out on salaries the Mets are a lot lower on the payroll scale then they should be. Considering they raised ticket prices 20%, and will draw close to 4 million in Shea’s last season they will be printing money. The Wilpons are a joke with their payroll. They are downright cheap. There is no way the Yankees should have a payroll that is $ 100 million higher plus payroll taxes. Wilpon is as cheap as they come.
You’re so right! Let’s pay Kyle Lohse $120-million per year so that our payroll is as high as the Yankees! THAT’ll show ‘em!
That’s right, Wilpon is as cheap as they come, being that his team only has the 4th highest payroll in baseball.
C’mon dude, get a clue. Anyone who knows baseball knows that money doesn’t buy championships. You talk about the massive Yanks payroll that hasn’t won a damn thing since 2000.
The only reason the Yankees payroll is that much is because they pay Jeter a king’s random, Giambi’s contract is a joke, and they pay Arod unheard of money, plus Petitte making obscene money as well. The Yankees make the playoffs every year, sure, but they’ve got nothing to show for it. When they had something to show for their season, they weren’t spending this much. The Yankees are built on their farm, without, they’d be an overpriced laughing stock. Money is not the answer, building through the farm is. We’ll have a higher payroll soon enough people, as soon as Wright and Reyes get HUGE extensions and SNY has been around longer then 2 years. I just don’t get the obsession with how much the payroll is though, why spend money on nothing? Who is there to spend on? Why get people you won’t really want in a couple years? That’s not only bad baseball, its bad business.
the yankees, red sox, and dodgers also invest heavily in their farm system. all much better than the mets system. it’s not just their major league payroll.
it’s been established on this site and elsewhere that the mets have not invested properly in their farm system by refusing to pay above the slot dictated by the commissioners office unlike the fore mentioned clubs.
if they actually used their massive resources for the system then fans wouldn’t be complaining about saving money instead of filling the holes in the pitching staff.
um, didn’t say the Mets were doing a good job, I just said I don’t understand why spending money on bad free agents makes people happy? just to see the payroll go up? Of course I think the Mets need to do better with their farm and I think that’s where our concentration should be.
I should also add that the Dodgers didn’t make they playoffs last year, in fact, they weren’t even close.
but the dodgers were in the playoffs in 2006 and 2004. they have been more successful than the mets over the last 20 years. as have most of the other big market clubs (white sox, red sox, yanks, angels: all championships in the last 7 years)
i definately don’t want to sign bad free agents. i’m again lohse or the equivalent. last year was the year to take the bull by the horns after a disappointing playoff finish to sign meche, lilly, or a. soriano or to make a trade to help a rotation we knew would be missing pedro and a bullpen that would be missing sanchez.
spending money on the farm isn’t just about paying over slot (and that assumes there are fantastic players slipping down to the late 1st round).
To me, it means providing the resources to have the best facilities and coaching and training staffs. That includes the new favorite foreign (Dominican) academies.
I know the Mets have an academy, and seem to spend plenty on bonuses to international signees. And it sounds like they are willing to bend the slot rules now.
Not sure how much they spend on the farm infrastructure, but I would guess it is a fair amount, especially since Omar overhauled the minor league system a few years ago.
Still, if you want good prospects, nothing beats good talent evaluation (for the draft, and trades).
Now we see the numbers. So I guess my posts before were right on. The Wilpon’s are a bunch of Cheap owners and just want to pocket the money.
They raised ticket prices between 20-40 percent higher this year and are in meetings everyday about how much more they can jack the prices next year.
Freddie coupons is the best business man in the world hand down, his son Jeff is learning fast. Money is king for them, Winning is not high on the list. Santana is NOT happening.
Freddie and Jeff Coupons you make me SICK. Yankees have a 100 million dollar higher payroll so far this year. What a JOKE
Then root for the Yankees if you want your team to spend over $200mil. Most sane Met fans would prefer to stay where we are. Nothing wrong with $120mil.
And stop complaining about this coming year’s payroll when last year’s just came out. Can we wait for the season to even get here before determining how much they will spend?
Who did you want them to sign this offseason?
Yes…Money Wins Championships…Just Ask Dolan And The Knicks!
Having the 4th highest payroll when your revenues are probably double most of the other teams in the top ten is not spending money on payroll. When you match revenues to expenses the Mets are cheap. There is no way the Yankees payroll should be $ 100 million more than the Mets when their revenues are that close. The Mets sell almost 4 million tickets now at prices that are almost the same now. They should have a much higher payroll. I am not saying it should be the Yankees $ 220 million, but it should be much higher than $ 120 million.
But who should they have spent it on? Remember that the Yankee’s are a veteran team. They have to spend much more money on 3B and SS. Just those 2 positions alone make up for much of the difference. Also, don’t forget that the AL has to pay for a DH. No one ever seems to mention that. You have to spend much more on a DH than a normal bench player.
Did anyone consider that maybe they have to pocket a few million because they are opening a new stadium that they financed basically by themselves and have to service a gigantic amount of debt?
But yeah, they are cheap.
normally i love bashing the wilpons but there was no FA player at any position that we needed and refused to pay this year. Although I was very upset when we really made no push at all for soriano last year. One good thing is we should have alot of salary coming off the books so id be SHOCKED if we dont sign someone next offseason (tex, dunn, pitcher x).
Before some fans continue to get out of whack, realize that this is not the luxury tax payroll number. The Mets actually had a luxury tax payroll of roughly $140 million in 2007. That put them at #3 in the majors, behind only the Red Sox and Yankees. I’m guessing the Mets had the highest differential between the luxury tax payroll and actual one in the majors. This was due to the number of players who were in the early years of back-loaded contracts.
Therefore, any complaints of cheapness are largely unwarranted and way off target.
Wow, ESPN just came out with 2007’s payroll numbers and you have 2008’s already? How much lower is it, you seem to be so sure of it with your capital letters and such you better have an actual number to back it up. You don’t.
Forget this coming season, you don’t have the numbers yet. As for 2007, the Mets made less in revenue than the Yankees and Red Sox, by about the same percentage they spent. Look up the actual numbers before crying about someone not spending money they haven’t made yet.
FACT
stop rooting for the team if you hate it so much, or stop spending money on them, whatever
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start realizing this IS a business and no other team in professional sports runs their business like the Yankees do
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This whole Freddie Coupons thing is annoying, spending money on bad free agents will not make us win anything
That is correct, I think they have shown more willingness in the last few years to get what they need and pay for it. They would have given Zito a good contract but not what he got. Soriano was considered a luxury and was not paid for because we already had players at every position. That still would have been my wish last year, Soriano would have helped a lot when Alou went down.
As for this year the only thing left that will increase payroll
Trading for Santana
Signing a guy like Loshe or Livan
Adding depth like Mench.
Even if we did all of them it would not get us above Boston or the Yankee’s so what else would these complainers like us to do?